[quote]Hrastnik wrote:
Now I can say from my own experience that oly lifts do increase vertical jump.
Before I could barely dunk a basketball (jumping from one leg), today I could dunk a basketball with two hands (jumping with two legs). I’m sure that 5 months of oly lifts, GMs, and especially squats contributed to this. Btw, i wasn’t doing any plyiometrics.
I had to share this to you guys, as I’m really happy because of this.[/quote]
Dr. Michael Stone’s research indicates that Oly lift variations are far more productive in improving vertical jump performance vs. plyos such as depth jumps. So much for the Westside position on Oly lifts.
Heh… So I guess if Dr. Michael Stone says jumping off a cliff is good for your vert that you would do that too?
Now I’m not denying that oly lifts are great for power development (aka… vert jump), but I think it is foolish to deny the mass of Soviet literature that focuses on plyometrics for developing power. I think the biggest factor as to why many people do not have success with plyometrics is that they do not implement them properly. It is much easier to auto-regulate the fatigue factor for olympic lifting. If you miss the lift, you stop, simple as that (or maybe not as simple as that depeding on your training scheme, but you know what i mean). However, many people don’t realize the stress that plyo-training exerts on the body because they don’t feel “tired” after doing 3 sets of 10 depth jumps. Also, plyos have a much greater supercompensation factor (please don’t kill me if I’m using terminology incorrectly), meaning that the effects are not usually seen until a few weeks after the plyo training (which should only last for a few weeks) has ceased.
What I’m saying is that I think for most atheletes, particularly those who don’t have coaches experienced in how to train using plyos, olympic lifting might be a better strategy as it is easier to measure and manage fatigue. However, I think to say that plyos have no place in the development of vertical jump power is foolish. The bottom line is that power absorbtion is a big part of power production and plyometrics are a good way to increase power absorbtion.
Just my two cents, any comments?
[quote]bobbyt wrote:
Hrastnik wrote:
Now I can say from my own experience that oly lifts do increase vertical jump.
Before I could barely dunk a basketball (jumping from one leg), today I could dunk a basketball with two hands (jumping with two legs). I’m sure that 5 months of oly lifts, GMs, and especially squats contributed to this. Btw, i wasn’t doing any plyiometrics.
I had to share this to you guys, as I’m really happy because of this.
Dr. Michael Stone’s research indicates that Oly lift variations are far more productive in improving vertical jump performance vs. plyos such as depth jumps. So much for the Westside position on Oly lifts.
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Well, since it has been brought it back up, what variations of Oly lifts are the best for vertical leap? Hang cleans, hang snatches, drop snatches, Push jerk, etc???