Mentioned or not:
Move to Canada.
Eat a lot of hemp seed products.
Apparently a very complete protein from a plant, in that thar seed. And tons of fiber. I’d like to read some actual scientific studies on this stuff in the future, instead of hearing church ladies spouting their second-hand two cents.
Watch this:
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[quote]mma_girl wrote:
Actually yea I do think so, first off your body requires essential AMINOS, and FATTY ACIDS, not essential carbs, so go ahead and fry your brain and devoid it of such nutrition fine, and vegetables are so over rated! Like I said check out some of the primitive society’s and Weston A. Price’s research and you might be quite surprised that a lot of hunter gather’s didn’t eat much vegetation.
You go to the super markets today and everything is huge, like the freakin biggest apples, and sweet and much abundance but this is due to such much agriculture and hybridization of plants…im not arguing, diet is your own decision obviously, Im just saying nutrition and paleoanthropology are like my passion, and if you’d like I can give you links to back up the talk
OctoberGirl wrote:
“mess with your body like that”???
HAHAHA!.. oohh man… made me laugh someone suggests it might be an unhealthy thing to do to your body
Eating vegetables is good for you and so long as you are getting enough protein and nutrients there is no reason it wouldn’t be a healthy choice.
My only question was in regards to devouring enough protein to build muscle mass needed to be a BBer
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yes, you need amino acids, but you assume that you can’t get them as a vegetarian or a vegan.
it’s a choice, not an unhealthy choice.
being a vegan or a vegetarian is a lot more work than I am willing to do.
I’d say it’s about as unhealthy as an all-meat diet would be. Probably won’t fuck you up, but it’s not the healthiest way to eat.
Extremes are usually a bad idea. A vegan diet is as silly as a no-vegetables diet.
Of course, if someone wants to be silly, I sort of encourage that.
I haven’t read any of this thread but if your a vegan for whatever reason… STOP!!! that’s all I have to say
I’m just glad I’ve been warned of the dangers of eating plants because they contains ZERO EAAs or EFAs, or anything else beneficial. Thanks for having the courage to speak up about this hidden evil. People have been silent for far too long.
[quote]slimthugger wrote:
Doghouse Reilly wrote:
Mike Mahler has a profile on that web site, he’s written numerous articles for T-Nation and I haven’t ever seen him mention his vegan diet. I was surprised to see him on there. That guy Avi looks like he isn’t hurting for protein or anything. Most of the rest though, don’t impress me at all.
Avi looks like he needs protein??? assuming he’s telling the truth, the vegan diet is working FOR HIM. Looks better than most meat eating lifters.[/quote]
I would like to reiterate that Avi is a BEAST.
most of the BBers we are discusssing did not build their build on a vegan lifestyle.
[quote]VON_Ballack wrote:
there isn’t a guy here with traps…what’s up with that? [/quote]
Holy &^, that is weird.
What are the chances, if there were no common causative effect or selection effect, of 6 out of 9 on-stage bodybuilders being shockingly, even horrifyingly deficient in traps?
One has to click and see this picture to even believe how badly off and how incredibly disproportionate these guys are in this respect. It’s a “WTF?” moment for sure.
Mothers absolutely could use pics of any of those six, pointing to their traps, to scare their kids at the dinner table – this is what will happen to you if you don’t finish your meat!
And the three remaining ones are sub-average for traps as well. Not just sub-average by standards of even the lowest level of competitive bodybuilding, but just sub-average period. Not horribly disproportionate, but not good traps either to be sure.
So it’s really 9 out 9 being subaverage or worse, with 6 of them being just astoundingly lacking in traps.
Chance would seem to speak against this happening without a common causative factor.
[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
VON_Ballack wrote:
there isn’t a guy here with traps…what’s up with that?
Holy &^, that is weird.
What are the chances, if there were no common causative effect or selection effect, of 6 out of 9 on-stage bodybuilders being shockingly, even horrifyingly deficient in traps?
One has to click and see this picture to even believe how badly off and how incredibly disproportionate these guys are in this respect. It’s a “WTF?” moment for sure.
Mothers absolutely could use pics of any of those six, pointing to their traps, to scare their kids at the dinner table – this is what will happen to you if you don’t finish your meat!
And the three remaining ones are sub-average for traps as well. Not just sub-average by standards of even the lowest level of competitive bodybuilding, but just sub-average period. Not horribly disproportionate, but not good traps either to be sure.
So it’s really 9 out 9 being subaverage or worse, with 6 of them being just astoundingly lacking in traps.
Chance would seem to speak against this happening without a common causative factor.[/quote]
You do realise that only one of those guys is vegan, right?
No, I didn’t know that.
Still it’s freakish. The only possibilities I can think of are freak of chance or common cause of some sort.
It’s just not normal, the traps in that lineup.
