Not sure why you dont like cialis and not sure what protocol you use but try the Indian cialis at 5 mg daily. I split it and take 2.5 mg in the morning before the gym as a pre workout and 2.5 mg in the evening around 430pm. Works amazing for me. Great pumps in the gym. Great vascularity. I can perform any time of day. It’s awesome.
Do you get occasional heart paps from Cialis? Especially at night laying down in bed B4 sleep?
Hey, i have nothing against it. Im jsut aware of the side effects of these pills and im more determined to fix myself naturally an d not having to rely on pills to get a boner. Im jsut a stubborn fuck.
Also i just took a pill like 2-3 hours ago. I dont se emuch difference in my boners tbh. Still meh, still have penile drynnes and feel like shit et cetera. My problem isnt mere erectile dysfunction, its the fatigue that bothers me and WHY i feel this way. I made sure to make my andrologist understand that its not simply psychological.
Like i said he fondled my balls and they really hurt, so he told me theres no way that 8 months after a varicocelectomy id still be in pain. So he suggested i take the antibacterial and anti-inflammatory pills just to rule out any infections for now.
thats what i said. i dont go by numbers but let me tell you. i feel horrible with tests at 180. if i can manage this ocd and anxiety+ lack of motivation, energy and better sleep i can actually try and increase it naturally. im the same age as you.
dude. i have all the symptoms that you have but worse lol i dont have motivation to even fap. i dont remember when i had a boner. i said damn because i think i would like to get to your numbers (test). my prolactin level is normal at 9.26
for now what i could try is the following, fix my sleeping (always sleep like 6 hours waking up to pee twice) gain some weight (im 6’3’’ weight 155) and stress less. because from what i see my microadenoma MIGHT not be secreting any hormones? my labs are all low and not high. if this doesn’t work ill do hcg mono with ibatumoren to increase igf1 if that doesn’t work then trt for life.
bro, everyone in my family and forums are telling me this is psychological and that i need medicine and intense psycho therapy. i tell them thats not the issue but they keep telling me it is. im at a point that i might even have to leave my house because everyone is depressed because of my stress, anxiety, ocd and depression. they see me hopeless and worst of all is my overthinking of not taking medications to get better because i always search the internet and if i see something that might get me worst like ibatumoren which can increase size of tumor i just wont take that risk. there must be other ways safer to increase igf1 without that drug. i might have thyroid issues have cardiovascular issues, no sperm count etc i wonder if i even have diabetes lol.
Your not fixing 180 naturally just saying
well i still havent tried any “natural” ways to increase it tho
If natural isnt helping, drugs are the way to go. Use cialis for now to get some form of a boner, even a little bit. Take alldayeveryday’s advice.
I suggest you do a heart doppler examination, full hormonal panels and full heamatology blood panel. Go to an endo and uro. Get fixed mate.
If your tumor isnt secreting any hormones, and u have a prolactin of 9. then YES get on TRT i say, but dont take my advice for granted. Im trying to fix myself as well as naturally as i can mate, but if nothing helps ill go the complete steroid route i dont give a fuck anymore.
Ill try to reduce my prolactin despite what doctors say just to see how i feel.
It depressed me to hear that this is happening to you because i can relate somewhat. Its like nature told us to fuck off and randomnly fucked our bodies up for no reason.
Hang in there mate. Get some clinical help, if all else fails go the TRT route and become a beast fuck everyone, fuck the doctors and most importantly fuck your relatives for telling you its psychological. My own father turned around and told me im a weak fuck and that its in my head, i was baffled when he said that. His own son is suffering for two years now and hes not trying to help me out, so i understand your pain.
I understand both of your situations and pain. I was in the same place for a long time. DESPERATELY trying to find a natural way. Didnt want to admit that I was messed up and didnt want “drugs”. It boils down to quality of life. I could continue to live a miserable life and existence for whatever meager time I had left and suffer even more down the road or take the actions that THREE doctors told me to take. I’ll never look back now. I see it all so clearly in hindsight. The only thing I regret is telling my workout partner I started trt. Now every time I hit a personal record training he tells people “he is on steroids”. Or he will look at me and say “I need to get on that shit”. He doesn’t understand and he has told a bunch of people in the gym so now people are constantly coming up to saying they want to “get on something”. IM NOT ON STEROIDS. LOL.
Lmao those guys are retarded and complete gymbros. They dont realize that you on TRT are trying to get on normal levels. Yeah sure you might plateau less due to exogenous hormones, but what else can you do???
Im gonna take the antibacterials, the cialis, and try some drugs, fuck it, and fuck the medical system.
hey mate thanks a lot. i haven’t read anything about cialis so i need to read about it. i truly dont have motivation to even go get a haircut but ill do it because i look like a freaking witch in my job lol . i remember yesterday at work having blurry vision and feeling fuggy. ugh i hate those days. heres the thing, there are some days that i feel glorious and there are other days that i feel meh and there are days where i have suicidal thoughts i guess this is how t roles. i went to every endo where i live and one offered me viagra because he was clueless on what to do with me, another told me im young and the others think i might have cushing disease because acth is at 62 heres me like 2 months ago Imgur: The magic of the Internet . no signs of cushing. AND none takes care of e2 level or shbg. i found out my e2 (14) by asking defy to check my full hormonal panel. fuck i even went to miami and the doctor told me he doesn’t check e2 and that he doesnt believe in freezing sperm LOL. man idk whats going on with these docs.
i have seen two uros tho. one told me i might have pituitary issues and he doesnt take care of it. the other put me on clomid of 50 mg 3 eod without checking e2 or anything and he said he was clueless too. LOL i mean how i would not be depressed when all these docs are clueless.
so you say if my tumor isnt secreting hormones and prolactin is at 9 (normal) i thought that means the tumor is not an issue, since its not secreting or messing with hormones?
bro i can relate to you so much. my dad told me in my face 2-3 times in my life that he doesnt consider me as a son and that im a pussy, asshole blah blah blah all because i had to take a break from college because i cannot think straight due to my medical issues. my mother talks to me once a month. gladly i live with my grandmother who supports me but i need to do something i dont want to be like this obviously and i want to continue college.
you talk about doctors. where do you live? have you considered defy? they might give you something for prolactin and everything else. dang mate. the thing is, since everyone thinks my problem is psychological (which somewhat it is, but mostly hormonal) im obligated to go to a psy doc to do some hypnosis treatment LOL or else they will put me in a psy hospital for emergency. if anything is psychological is our family how they treat us.
it sucks that we have to depend on chemicals in such young age ;/
How about being young and not having chemicals to help and I wouldent call test chemicals ypur body makes it naturally it’s not like your shooting tren up for life
Amen. I dont look at it like that anymore. I did before. Now I see testosterone injections just like insulin injections for a diabetic. Its hormone replacement therapy. That’s it. It’s no different. There is just a stigma surrounding it. The guys at my gym think I’m a “cheater”. I never believed in fair fighting anyways.
I think about it that way as well. People who are educated in TRT understand its a treatment to a DISEASE. What we guys have are DISEASES. Normal gymbros think were absolutely fine and dandy and on ly cheating with pills or hormones or what have you because they cant SEE the disease.
Its like an invisible demon inside of you strangling your very essence. How do you explain that to someone who cant feel what you feel?
i completely get you guys! i always asked my family “do you see people that trt go with it for more than a year? no right?” thats becausd they dont find the right protocol. then again modern doctors dont know much! how did yiu find yours tjo?
The only person that knows is my wife. Did not tell parents , siblings etc. Did tell best friend.
I just don’t want to deal with explaining stuff they don’t know anything about. And have them think that me looking better is solely because of steroids
exactly, only my family knows because if i tell others people will say “ o thats the guy using testosterone.”
How ya Been man?
I’m good. Just giving it hell out here. Been dabbling in the trt game and changing dosages up ect. Im currently doing a little mini blast of 300 mg per week just to feel it out. How bout you? How are you?