Varicocele and TRT

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I told the exact same thing to the endos, that my prolactin always comes a bit higher thaan the overal range and they keep telling me “oh its nothing because yours is not in the higher 100+ range”. Like honestly these people dont care about symptoms at all but only about numbers at the end of it all.
Despite this tho they did check for macroplonactin and they found it to be normal but this was 3 hours after i woke up so maybe the test wasnt done right.

I might run dostinex by myself to test it out for a bit fuck it.

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I’m not gonna tell you to do that but I know if it was me I would educate myself thoroughly and then do it myself. Make sure you understand dosing protocols ect before you make any decisions. I would also recommend getting proper bloodwork as well. Fyi.

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When you say proper bloodwork? Ive had pretty much everything tested, both my hormones and general bloodwork, as well as semen and urine samples.

In regards to my semen sample, it shows im below the normal level of fertility, so something is suppresing my testes.

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What you have posted here is not comprehensive bloodwork and what you have done (e2) is not the right test. What about hemtocrit? WBC? RBC? Lipid profiles? Ect ect… your bloodwork doesn’t seem comprehensive based on what I see here.

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HEAMATOLOGY:
RBC 5.54 10^6/μl REF: 4.5-6.5
HB 15.4 g/dl REF: 13.0-18.0
HCT 45.6 % REF: 40-54
MCV 82.3 fl REF: 76-96
MCH 27.9 pg 27-32
MCHC 33.8 g/dl 30-35
WBC 8.84 10^3/mm^3 REF: 4-11
NEUTROPHILS 48 % REF: 40-75
LYMPHOCYTES 44 % REF: 20-45
MONOCYTES 5 % REF: 2-10
EOSINOPHILS 2% REF: 1-5
BASOPHILS 0 % REF: 0-1
NEUT# 4.33 /mm^3 REF: 2.0-7.5
LYMPH# 3.86 /mm^3 REF:1.5- 4.0
MONO# 0.46 /mm^3 REF: 0.2-0.8
EOS# 0.14 /mm^3 REF: 0.04-0.4
BASO# 0.04 /mm^3 REF: <0.01-0.1
PLATELETS 174 x10^3/cumm REF:150-400
ESR 7 mm/hr

BIOCHEMISTRY:
CRP 0.096 mg/dl REF: <0.5
FASTING GLUCOSE 94 mg/dl REF: 70/110
UREA: 39 mg/dl REF:14-45
CREATININE 1.22 mg/dl REF: 0.6-1.2
ALKALINE PHOSPHATASE 35 U/I REF: 45-122
SGPT/ALT 14 U/I REF: Up to 35
γ-GT 18 U/I REF: 11-50
Na-SODIUM 145 mEq/I REF: 133-149
K-POTASSIUM 4.3 mEq/l REF: 3.3-4.9
CALCIUM 10.05 mg/dl REF: 8.1-10.4
MAGNESIUM 2.17 mg/dl REF: 1.6-2.55

Both of these tests done on the 2nd of july 2018 along with the hormonal panel posted above.

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I dont see anything crazy there. You may just have low estrogen high prolactin and hypothyroidism.

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That doesnt explain the penile shrinkage, dryness and inability to get a boner tho does it?

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I mean the high prolactin does, but im not so sure about hypothyroidism in general causing these issues.

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You know, i have a theory but it might sound a bit dumb. What if i had a small tumor from long ago since i was young, and somehow the damage to the testes from the varicoceles caused an HPTA shift causing my prolactin somehow to shoot up and my estrogen to lower due to LH and FSH and other gonadotropal hormones being affected? Im reading now that prolactin not only lowers the ability of the testes to function properly and make testosterone, but also lowers estrogen.

I dont see how this theory could be possibly though in reality, but its some food for thought.
Ive been told continuously by doctors that my case is very very unique and rare and they have no idea how to deal with it its just sad really :stuck_out_tongue:

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Low estrogen can certainly effect sexual organs.

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Was about to say low estrogen can make ya dick feel numb and dead estrogen is more related to sexual dysfunction than t people have found out

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Im aware wade, im jsut really curious how my estrogen is being suppressed or lowered. I need to look into this prolactin thing more. The endos ruled it out because its not that much higher than the average range. But im not quite sure about that, i could give dostinex a try, i have a RX ready in my hand i could go get it now if i want to, but im willing to wait it out a bit until i see the andrologist on thursday.

I’m glad most of you guys here are giving me tips and telling me “yes indeed ur hormones seem a bit fucked” because the doctors are going to make me believe im crazy after all in the end.

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It’s low because of t levels being low is say personally

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Perhaps, but im not the “average” of the testosterone scale as docs say. Average or not i have legit issues either way.

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He doesn’t have low t

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While it doesn’t qualify as low it could be low for him but I’d certainly say the thyroid the biggest issue but then again Countries like his suck

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Possibly. Hell at 1000 ng/dl my E2 is at 29 with no ai. I was in the same boat. My TT was 293 ng/dl with an E2 of <5. LOW E SUCKS!!!

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I will get a proper e2 test soon. I will talk to my andro about it. like i said earlier after rereadin tests i did on the 21st of JUNE my estradiol (e2) was at 73.4 pmol/L and the reference is at 49.6-218.0

Is this still low?? Thought this number would have been “normal” of sort sort. The estradiol cant be suppressed by anything else other than the tumor itself. If i had genuine damage to the testes my testosterone theoretically would have been much lower wouldnt it?

Ill pay attention to SHBG, E2, TSH and Prolactin like you guys mentioned.

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My e isn’t that low im like 13 to 15 if that my t is just in the 300s

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Hey how have you been. I haven’t heard you speak about your varicocele lately after you got the surgery??

I still have mine bilaterally and was wondering if you recomend me getting them done. I hear a lot of guys still end up on TRT so I im not sure if its wroth it??

And can anyone on here tell me how the testosterone cream works???