It was thought that testosterone suspension gave you a hard appearance without any water retention
I tried calves twice. Once was out of curiosity, the second was to prove that the first one was not a fluke. Do not recommend.
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Have you used deca as well? I’ve heard some people say it effects them differently? Also heard dosing would be less with NPP?
I have not used deca before.
Dosing would be nearly the same with ND and NPP. NPP is 67mg nand /100mg NPP and ND is 64mg nand/100mg ND. The ester weight of decanoate and phenylpropionate are very similar.
@unreal24278 any tips for triceps? Id like to try…
It’s been two years
I’d inject the lateral head, fairly easy to hit a nerve doing long head. Small amount of oil, like 0.3-4cc if the solution is thick like primoteston (grapeseed oil)
When the arm swells up, it may limit range of motion. If it gets REALLY inflamed and you’re unlucky you can get a fever, worst case scenario something like compartment syndrome could develop.
Imo it’s stupid, it can totally change the shape of your arm to that of a more aesthetic appearance… But it only lasts around 10 days, the shape of your arm will change from day to day. You get used to it, the inflammatory response dies down with repeated shots
It’s a really stupid thing to do, and from my bloods it would appear as if I don’t absorb T very well from tricep shots.
It’s temporary site enhancement. The potential for long lasting scar tissue imo isn’t worth it
Maybe you could get a bit of growth through excess stretching of the fascia, but it’s not worth it
One time my tricep swelled up so badly I had a fever, high HR, dizziness, couldn’t bend my arm… was very close to going to hospital, this was with my prescription.
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Thanks. Sticking to delts and quads.
Any other sites you can suggest maybe? Not glutes since im doing slin pins now.
You can do ventroglutes with slin pins. I’m not nearly as lean as you and I do those all the time with a 1/2” needle.
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I haven’t been lean for a year now tho. Also, i cant seem to understand where exactly that spot is from what i have googled 
I need to start moving my shots around. I’m on day 84 of 115 of ED shots and I have pinned nothing but delts. Since day 54, I have been using 1.5 syringes/day
With me doing slin, ed shots of test and gh eod, i am doing a total of 90 pins a month, lol 
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Yea, 90 a month is brutal. Mine has been 100% delts up through today. I’m thinking about rotating in VG or lats. I can’t pin quads, my body hates that for some reason.
If I’m not mistaken, slin and gh are sub Q, correct?
Yes, slin is SQ but i do gh in a delt also as my skin has some alergic reaction to my GH and i get red, itchy lumps that go away in 5-7 days… No probs in delts. Sure 90 are not all IM its just that i loled about the fact that i pin more than heroin addicts
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When I start NPP, I can feel it almost immediately. I feel a little off the very next morning after 1st shot. It’s a weird feeling of like a numbness in my head. Later that afternoon, I’ll feel the anxiety and aggression kick in. By day 2, I can visibly see changes starting to happen, mainly more vascularity at first. By day 3, I’ve taken my second shot (I pin it EOD) and I feel bigger and fuller and can start to see my traps become more pronounced. It’s also around this time that my appetite starts to increase. Depending on where I’m at in my training week, I may or may not feel the strength/gym aggression until day 7-10. I’m at 3 weeks on NPP right now and my traps have blown up like crazy. NPP has a reputation for making traps and delts stand out, but I think it is even more pronounced when I use it because:
- I absolutely love deadlift variations and train them extremely hard
- I do a lot of very heavy loaded carries.
The other hallmark of NPP I am feeling right now is hunger, CONSTANT hunger.
I’m currently on week 3 of running 350Test/350 NPP and keeping a cycle log on here. I update it every Saturday with changes and pics. I’ll be posting an update tomorrow morning (I weigh, measure and photo first thing in the morning dry and cold). You should check it out.
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Nice .
Pls copy the link here!
I’m on my first week of npp after the third pin I also do EOD. I start to feel that training becomes more “easy”. I like very much your dosing. I’m at 300 test e and ~200npp I’ll definitely go up with the npp next week’s but we’ll see. I also think about adding some mast in the second half of my cycle. This will be a very long cycle with slow escalation.
Greets
How long is very long? Diminishing returns seem to become highly apparent for most after 16-20 weeks.
Through my years of cycling I noticed the rate of increase dropped off fairly quickly after 8 weeks. I usually hit a plateau in strength increase by 8 weeks.
I preferred more frequent fast gains than take the added risk of adding more AAS’s to keep gains increasing after 8 weeks. I felt that the binding sites were becoming desensitized, and thus rendering the AAS’s less effective. The benefit/risk ratio dropped below the acceptable level at that point.
The exception was a show. For a contest I started 12 weeks out and increased dosing at 6 weeks up to the show. I usually did a tune-up show 2 or 3 weeks before the targeted show at the end of the 12 week cycle. I was looking fairly lean for the tune-up show, but not near peaking. I did tune-up shows to minimize anxiety that occurs at the important contest.
I don’t know if I agree with you.
Drugs work they work even after week 8 and 20.
Yeah gains can slow down or even stop but not because the drug don’t work or your receptors downregulated, no. I think the receptor quantity goes up but that’s not for now. Gains can slow down because of systemic fatigue or the dose is now not sufficient enough for your body weight.
But drugs work always. My granny need to takes Lasix. And it still works fine after years of administration!
Btw I’m thinking about a cycle around 16-20 weeks we’ll see.