Just a home brew habit that got out of hand…! Engineering the main breadwinner here though, very much small scale only on the production front.
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Meet Gunnar Rosbo:
“What made Gunnar’s results on the stage surprising, was the fact that he came to almost every one of his competitions in a drunk state. He believed that by drinking alcohol prior to competition, he would lose more water weight and stay defined. At times, Gunnar would drink 750 ml of vodka and 24 beers the day before the show; believing this would help him look better than his competitors.”
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I saw a show on Netflix where they were swearing Ronnie Coleman’s placing an improved because someone got him drunk before the contest.
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Pretty sure Kevin Levrone gave him some vodka the night before and it dried him right out according to the story. Never lost again after that, well accept to Gunter and Jay.
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Glad to hear other folks strategizing about how to balance life with fitness goals.
I was just running some numbers to figure out what to budget for an evening getting together with some friends this weekend. I enjoy drinking when it’s a group thing, and will savor a glass of wine, good liquor, or beer on my own now and then. Haven’t had any alcohol since the New Year because it does make it harder to meet my nutritional goals though, so for now I think it’ll only be if we are with a group (for instance- a friend’s birthday in a few weeks at a karaoke bar - let’s just say liquid courage is very helpful for that scenario).
The problem I’m running into is that we do like going out to eat on the weekends. I can manage overall caloric intake decently - it’s trying to find ways to get enough protein to hit my daily goal that gets me if I don’t pre-plan everything. Most of the restaurant servings here aren’t serving up 40-50g of protein, and it doesnt seem very culturally acceptable to ask for extra meat or al a carte if it’s not already on the menu.
I love how lean I look after binge-drinking and waking up for a 5am piss. What I don’t love is it destroying my appetite and ruining my training for at least 3-4 days afterwards.
@RCKeeper that’s the perfect excuse to indulge in all the different protein bars available. Make them your well-earned dessert. Or just double-scoop your protein shake earlier in the day so you aren’t chasing.
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Just catching up on these posts and what I’ve gathered is that i want to look lean i need to get drunk.
Cheers for the advice, i’m off to smash some Guinness now 
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Thanks for the tip! Protein bars are tasty but I feel like they cut into my carb count hah. I’ve been trying to keep it to 50g of protein (two scoops) from protein powder a day because for some reason I read somewhere it’s better to only get 30% of your protein from powder . . . but I imagine on days where that’s the only feasible way to hit my goals, it’s probably better to take an extra scoop or two versus not hitting the mark.
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Guinness has the lowest amount of calories of all the mainstream UK beers so I applaud your path.
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I was thinking about this T-ransformation this morning and came to the realization that I have never really tried to intentionally lose weight or “recomp” my body as am I doing right now outside of when I was a chubby teenager (and even then, I did have a true goal other than just not be out of shape anymore). I have accomplished both of these things in the past but it was a secondary result to what my goal was (training for an MMA fight, bodybuilding).
I find myself having to rethink my approach to training and fitness right now and I have learned quite a bit in a short period completing the 10K swing challenge and reading Dan John’s new book, Super Squats, and Brawn.
One thing I still don’t understand is why people think there is some magic formula to get in shape (thinking specifically about folks like yo-yo dieters or the people who resolve every year to go the gym and only make it a few weeks). It’s clear following logs here and reading a lot of different literature on the topic, all one has to do is pick something and be consistent. To “get in decent shape” is an easy goal. To be a true beast is tough.
Sort of disjointed rambling there, but my caffeine hasn’t kicked in yet.
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In a perfect world, no protein shakes and varied protein sources (poultry, beef, fish) would be best, but you’re correct that getting any protein source is better than none =)
After 10+ years of casual looking, I’ve yet to find a protein bar that tastes like I want to eat it AND has a good macro profile. Might as well just settle for low-fat Slim Jim’s at this point lol.
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Anybody remember the home videos of Kirk Karwoski when he was powerlifting and absolute goddamn unit? He was mixing up a protein drink in his kitchen and then proceeded to add Budweiser or some beer to it calling the “secret ingredient”. LOL!
I recall reading about similar recommendations, but I’ve gone higher than that and it’s never been a problem. On days when I get four total scoops of protein by mid-afternoon, I usually nail my macros because it does seem to help with appetite. (I mix my protein into pudding/cookie dough consistency and eat it, though…that helps a lot.)
I don’t mind carbs in protein bars, as I have a relatively high carb target…my problem is finding bars without tons of fat. MetRx used to have that big old cookie dough bar and had shitloads of carbs and protein, and only like 4 grams of fat. But those got reformulated, and since the trend is now towards lower carb, everybody has thrown the kitchen sink of fats into these bars - hard to find bars under 5 grams of fat.
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You’ve identified the key here: people focus on GETTING in shape rather than BEING in shape.
I’ve known several people who GOT into great shape from a state of physical decline. They lost the 30lbs, rocked the 32" jeans, looked great for the reunion/cruise…and then went back to their old habits and put all the weight back on and then some. These people talk about “the diet” as though it’s a fixed period of time. “I follow the diet until I lose the weight and then I go back to normal”
No: this is YOU now. Your normal was killing you: don’t go back to it.
I’ve written about “being that which does” and this is exactly that. The person who is in shape eats and lives in a way that promotes being in shape. It’s who they are. Those that are only employing temporary means get temporary effects.
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I think people don’t like this answer as much as “magic”. Saying “I know what to do and I’m not doing it” is a lot harder admission.
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I’m showing my age (and lack of sleep) now, and have no idea why this popped into my head probably 20 years later, but I see training like that old helicopter flash game.
Keep moving forward, little by little, build up that rhythm. Sometimes progress will come easy and there won’t be many obstacles in your path, sometimes you might have to work a little harder to avoid the noise that’s appearing in front of you. All you need to do is stay consistent. If you happen to crash, don’t fret. Regather and go again. Maybe this time do something slightly different. All that matters is you keep getting back up and bloody hell I should have a nap I am talking absolute rubbish.
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Quest bars are pretty good. Macros work for my needs. Also like macro bars during a bulk.
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I have evolved as I’ve aged to avoid frankenfoods, like nearly all protein bars are. I used to like quest bars and the like, and recently tasted one and tasted nothing like what should go in my digestive system.
To me, the best on-the-go protein options are: grass fed beef jerky, hard boiled eggs, the single serving size of full fat plain Greek yogurt, and raw almonds.
Jim Wendler estimates that protein from real food is more than twice as effective per gram as from supplements/fake foods. That said, I’ve been known to grab a Met-Rx bar at a gas station on a road trip, but for day-to-day needs I really try to eat real foods.
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I like tuna packets alongside this list.
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Good call. Tuna is great and I sometimes forget about the on-the-go packets. Reminds me that I should pick some up next trip to the store.
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