That fight reminded me of the Dewees(sp?) fight in which he was bleeding out of his head really badly. Course he covered it with his hand and went on to win but the bloody mess was the same. Kimbo is probably gonna get murdered.
[quote]chitown34 wrote:
drewh wrote:
Rewatch the Monson fight, Roy won hands down.
He was also dominating Arlovski, but two questionable standups let Arlovski back on his feet and he got the KO before Nelson could take him down again. I wouldn’t mind seeing Kimbo get a fluke KO over Roy though… Oh and x10 on Rampage being a horrible coach. He seems to be unable to assess people’s skillsets (granted they only had a bit of time to do so) and picked half of his team solely based on how strong they looked. I guess he assumes that since he isn’t the most skilled guy and uses his power and athleticism to win, that they can do the same.[/quote]
This is stupid talk. Rampage has some technical striking skills and a solid wrestling background. He gets out of a triangle just like Matt Hughes and he just relies on his athleticism. Plain dumb talk. And he was far from dominating Arlovski it was close he was somewhat close to a Kimura they stood it up and he got KTFO.
i agree that rampage doesnt coach well as compaired with his coaches… and would’ve thought he could do better job this time around. he is worth watching for being funny as hell and a real hoot!
One of my wrestling coaches is friends with Jon Madsen and apparently Madsen told him that he made it to the semis where he, in his words, ‘got caught’ and lost. I guess we’ll see if that’s true or not.
[quote]Sentoguy wrote:
Sifu wrote:
tmoney1 wrote:
WhiteFlash wrote:
Champ1989 wrote:
WhiteFlash wrote:
Also, did ya’ll see Rampage fuck that door up? I’ve punched a door and left a weird “rip” all the way through a portion, but he shredded it like a bear. That’s one of the most intimidating things I’ve ever seen.
At the end of that montage he rips it completely off the hinges with bare hands. Although last time he coached against Griffon he knocked over a metal parking sign with one hand so im they probably installed shitty doors when they heard he was coaching again.
x2 that Rampage is a shitty coach but I could listen to him talk all day about nothing.
“that boy had some titties!”
I was thinking that it might’ve been a stunt door, but we’re also talking about a guy who picked a large grown man up to shoulder level while in a triangle and slammed him through the ring. Think it’s definitely possible.
That slam was impressive. But Rampage did not knock him out with that slam.
Ummm, yeah he did.
They did a show on “Sports Science” on FSN where they compared head trauma from different collisions in sports (everything from getting hit in the head with a baseball bat, to a full speed running headbutt, to Rampage’s slam) and found that the slam into the ground registered the highest levels of trauma to the brain of any collision in sports.[/quote]
They have also shown the slam in slow motion on TV from a camera that was at mat level and viewing it from the side. Even then tthe commentaters saying look how this slam knocks him out while completely ignoring the vicsious follow up that Rampage nailed him with a split second later.
Here is a clearer video. It’s hard to see because it all happens in one second at 9:00 and 9:18-:23 on this tape so I’ll tell you what to look for.
In the slow motion video that I saw you can see that Arona’s eyes are wide open as his head ricochetes up off of the mat and he looks conscious. More importantly you can see that as Arona’s head is bouncing upwards he is staring at Rampage who is still hurtling downwards with all his body mass being pulled by Arona and the momentum of the slam with an evil grimmace on his face because Rampage is about to headbutt Arona’s head through the canvas. The flying headbutt which also caused a second impact with the mat was what closed Arona’s eyes.
If you need further evidence of the headbutt all you need to do is look at the part of Rampage’s forehead that he hit Arona with because Rampage’s right eye was split wide open. If you look at 8:06-8:10 after the fight you can see Rampage holding his hand to his head like he got rocked too.
If you look Rampage today you can see he still has a scar that runs through his right eyebrow from that headbutt.
[quote]mldj wrote:
cycobushmaster wrote:
Donut62 wrote:
…It all really comes down to who they pick at the beginning and Rashad seemed to do a much better job…
you know his team lost, right?
You know you misread Donut’s post, right?
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crap. my bad…
[quote]drewh wrote:
chitown34 wrote:
drewh wrote:
Rewatch the Monson fight, Roy won hands down.
He was also dominating Arlovski, but two questionable standups let Arlovski back on his feet and he got the KO before Nelson could take him down again. I wouldn’t mind seeing Kimbo get a fluke KO over Roy though… Oh and x10 on Rampage being a horrible coach. He seems to be unable to assess people’s skillsets (granted they only had a bit of time to do so) and picked half of his team solely based on how strong they looked. I guess he assumes that since he isn’t the most skilled guy and uses his power and athleticism to win, that they can do the same.
This is stupid talk. Rampage has some technical striking skills and a solid wrestling background. He gets out of a triangle just like Matt Hughes and he just relies on his athleticism. Plain dumb talk. And he was far from dominating Arlovski it was close he was somewhat close to a Kimura they stood it up and he got KTFO.[/quote]
For most of his career he was a brawler. His striking has definitely gotten better in the last 2 years, but I would not call him a technical fighter. And yes, getting out a triangle via powerbomb is just one example of his excellent athleticism making up for an average skill-set.
[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:
Champ1989 wrote:
g but he is freakishly cut and his hands are real smooth. I mean Barry White smooth.
Someone explain this to me.[/quote]
Kimbo look in good shape. Kimbo punch very fast. Kimbo punch very accurate. Kimbo look like real boxer now.
[quote]Champ1989 wrote:
legendaryblaze wrote:
Champ1989 wrote:
g but he is freakishly cut and his hands are real smooth. I mean Barry White smooth.
Someone explain this to me.
Kimbo look in good shape. Kimbo punch very fast. Kimbo punch very accurate. Kimbo look like real boxer now. [/quote]
Now explain the rest of that post were you stated that Kimbo is HANDS DOWN in better shape than all the other fighters.
[quote]Sifu wrote:
They have also shown the slam in slow motion on TV from a camera that was at mat level and viewing it from the side. Even then tthe commentaters saying look how this slam knocks him out while completely ignoring the vicsious follow up that Rampage nailed him with a split second later.
Here is a clearer video. It’s hard to see because it all happens in one second at 9:00 and 9:18-:23 on this tape so I’ll tell you what to look for.
In the slow motion video that I saw you can see that Arona’s eyes are wide open as his head ricochetes up off of the mat and he looks conscious. More importantly you can see that as Arona’s head is bouncing upwards he is staring at Rampage who is still hurtling downwards with all his body mass being pulled by Arona and the momentum of the slam with an evil grimmace on his face because Rampage is about to headbutt Arona’s head through the canvas. The flying headbutt which also caused a second impact with the mat was what closed Arona’s eyes.
If you need further evidence of the headbutt all you need to do is look at the part of Rampage’s forehead that he hit Arona with because Rampage’s right eye was split wide open. If you look at 8:06-8:10 after the fight you can see Rampage holding his hand to his head like he got rocked too.
If you look Rampage today you can see he still has a scar that runs through his right eyebrow from that headbutt.
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I’m not doubting the headbutt afterwards. But the trauma to the head from a flying headbutt would still be less than the trauma from the initial slam, not to mention that the initial slam causes trauma to the back of the head, which is much more potentially harmful.
Consider that most fatalities in fights occur not due to the initial KO blow, but to the victim hitting their head on the ground after being KO’d.
Again, they actually measured the forces involved, and a flying headbutt isn’t even close to having your head slammed into the ground.
Here, watch these:
Body slam:
Full speed running headbutt:
Here’s another interesting one (slightly off topic, but gives you some idea just how hard the slam was):
And here’s one of the world’s best headbutter, still less force than the slam:
[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
Champ1989 wrote:
legendaryblaze wrote:
Champ1989 wrote:
g but he is freakishly cut and his hands are real smooth. I mean Barry White smooth.
Someone explain this to me.
Kimbo look in good shape. Kimbo punch very fast. Kimbo punch very accurate. Kimbo look like real boxer now.
Now explain the rest of that post were you stated that Kimbo is HANDS DOWN in better shape than all the other fighters.[/quote]
As kmc (errrr…brotard09) said “cause he be on teh roids”
I think Rashad’s team is better than Rampage’s team. Rampage went after size, Rashad went after skill. This obviously proved to be beneficial for Rashad’s team as Madsen owned the much bigger Abe. We’ll see how it all plays out.
POTENTIAL SPOILERS POTENTIAL SPOILERS POTENTIAL SPOILERS
Supposedly Wes Shivers and Roy Nelson make it to the finals so I don’t think pics mattered.
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[quote]165StateChamp wrote:
One of my wrestling coaches is friends with Jon Madsen and apparently Madsen told him that he made it to the semis where he, in his words, ‘got caught’ and lost. I guess we’ll see if that’s true or not.[/quote]
Why would you post this and ruin it without even a spoiler alert?
Can anyone tell me what time and on what channel TUF 10 is aired in the UK?
cheers
[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
Champ1989 wrote:
legendaryblaze wrote:
Champ1989 wrote:
g but he is freakishly cut and his hands are real smooth. I mean Barry White smooth.
Someone explain this to me.
Kimbo look in good shape. Kimbo punch very fast. Kimbo punch very accurate. Kimbo look like real boxer now.
Now explain the rest of that post were you stated that Kimbo is HANDS DOWN in better shape than all the other fighters.[/quote]
Were you watching the same show i was watching? They could have called that UFC GONE WILD with all those titties bouncing around.
[quote]Champ1989 wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
Champ1989 wrote:
legendaryblaze wrote:
Champ1989 wrote:
g but he is freakishly cut and his hands are real smooth. I mean Barry White smooth.
Someone explain this to me.
Kimbo look in good shape. Kimbo punch very fast. Kimbo punch very accurate. Kimbo look like real boxer now.
Now explain the rest of that post were you stated that Kimbo is HANDS DOWN in better shape than all the other fighters.
Were you watching the same show i was watching? They could have called that UFC GONE WILD with all those titties bouncing around.[/quote]
Don’t be a dumbass…of course I watched the same show. You’re exaggerating to make a not-so-obvious assessment. Now tell us why Kimbo is in better shape than rest of the fighters.
Sounds like you’re equating physical appearance with conditioning. A mistake that anyone who knows anything about combat sports(especially mma) wouldn’t be stupid enough to make.
[quote]drewh wrote:
POTENTIAL SPOILERS POTENTIAL SPOILERS POTENTIAL SPOILERS
Supposedly Wes Shivers and Roy Nelson make it to the finals so I don’t think pics mattered.
POTENTIAL SPOILERS POTENTIAL SPOILERS POTENTIAL SPOILERS
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as long as kimbo isnt there thank god! not a big Roy fan so i’d go with Wes
[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
Champ1989 wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
Champ1989 wrote:
legendaryblaze wrote:
Champ1989 wrote:
g but he is freakishly cut and his hands are real smooth. I mean Barry White smooth.
Someone explain this to me.
Kimbo look in good shape. Kimbo punch very fast. Kimbo punch very accurate. Kimbo look like real boxer now.
Now explain the rest of that post were you stated that Kimbo is HANDS DOWN in better shape than all the other fighters.
Were you watching the same show i was watching? They could have called that UFC GONE WILD with all those titties bouncing around.
Don’t be a dumbass…of course I watched the same show. You’re exaggerating to make a not-so-obvious assessment. Now tell us why Kimbo is in better shape than rest of the fighters.
Sounds like you’re equating physical appearance with conditioning. A mistake that anyone who knows anything about combat sports(especially mma) wouldn’t be stupid enough to make. [/quote]
I’m pretty sure that Roy Nelsons 60+lbs of body fat counts as non functional. Did you see Kimbo heaving and puking after over under drills? Didn’t think so.
[quote]drewh wrote:
POTENTIAL SPOILERS POTENTIAL SPOILERS POTENTIAL SPOILERS
Supposedly Wes Shivers and Roy Nelson make it to the finals so I don’t think pics mattered.
POTENTIAL SPOILERS POTENTIAL SPOILERS POTENTIAL SPOILERS
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If Roy Nelson makes it to the finals ill be fucking flabbergasted.