Nelson might be the former IFL champ…but he’s fat and the IFL is like the Canadian Football League…it’s football, but not REAL football. His last fight was loss to Jeff Monson and before that Arlovski. I think he’s too cocky “The difference between me and these other guys is that I’m a professional”. No dude, you’r just fat…
My money is on Schoonover.
“can you see my bone”
“affirmative”
relating to the cut on that guys head
[quote]tmoney1 wrote:
3. Rampage isn’t much of a coach, but he’s hilarious.[/quote]
Agreed.
Yelling “Get up!” obviously wasn’t working, nor was “sweep!” or “he’s doing the same damn thing!”. Abe obviously needed more specific instruction and Rampage obviously didn’t know how to give it to him.
I like Rampage a lot, and I agree he’s one funny SOB. But he’s obviously not much of a coach.
[quote]Sifu wrote:
tmoney1 wrote:
WhiteFlash wrote:
Champ1989 wrote:
WhiteFlash wrote:
Also, did ya’ll see Rampage fuck that door up? I’ve punched a door and left a weird “rip” all the way through a portion, but he shredded it like a bear. That’s one of the most intimidating things I’ve ever seen.
At the end of that montage he rips it completely off the hinges with bare hands. Although last time he coached against Griffon he knocked over a metal parking sign with one hand so im they probably installed shitty doors when they heard he was coaching again.
x2 that Rampage is a shitty coach but I could listen to him talk all day about nothing.
“that boy had some titties!”
I was thinking that it might’ve been a stunt door, but we’re also talking about a guy who picked a large grown man up to shoulder level while in a triangle and slammed him through the ring. Think it’s definitely possible.
That slam was impressive. But Rampage did not knock him out with that slam. [/quote]
Ummm, yeah he did.
They did a show on “Sports Science” on FSN where they compared head trauma from different collisions in sports (everything from getting hit in the head with a baseball bat, to a full speed running headbutt, to Rampage’s slam) and found that the slam into the ground registered the highest levels of trauma to the brain of any collision in sports.
just some random thoughts…
-good to see Mike Van Arsdale…as a former coach for the Army team, i was wondering if he would get out there and pass the torch, so to speak.
-Rampage is the worst coach ever…“do what ya do!” yeah, he said that the last time he coached, too (and it didn’t work then, either). if i got stuck on his team, i would be pissed. seriously.
-i thought Roy Nelson would show up in better shape…he’s always been fat, but he looks really out of shape, cardio-wise.
-Rashad comes across as a cool guy. kind of like how Tito looked cocky when he fought, but turned out to be a helluva good coach.
-i officially hate Rampage. i think it’s ironic how he talks smack about Rashad getting knocked out by Machida, but he turned down a fight with the champ. way to step up to the plate…oh, nevermind.
this season will prolly be the most interesting, drama-wise so far…
[quote]cycobushmaster wrote:
just some random thoughts…
-good to see Mike Van Arsdale…as a former coach for the Army team, i was wondering if he would get out there and pass the torch, so to speak.
-Rampage is the worst coach ever…“do what ya do!” yeah, he said that the last time he coached, too (and it didn’t work then, either). if i got stuck on his team, i would be pissed. seriously.
-i thought Roy Nelson would show up in better shape…he’s always been fat, but he looks really out of shape, cardio-wise.
-Rashad comes across as a cool guy. kind of like how Tito looked cocky when he fought, but turned out to be a helluva good coach.
-i officially hate Rampage. i think it’s ironic how he talks smack about Rashad getting knocked out by Machida, but he turned down a fight with the champ. way to step up to the plate…oh, nevermind.
this season will prolly be the most interesting, drama-wise so far…[/quote]
Why fight machida now and get 1 million dollars + defend your title against Rashad and get 1 million? When you can gas up a fight with rashad make 3 Million, then if you win, fight machida for $5mil. Your getting punched in the face you might as well get as much money as you can.
I would cry if Rampage was coaching me, I wonder if his skill level matches his coaching and he’s just a superior athlete.
Yeah, Rampage sucks as coach, can’t pick the fights worth a damn. You have to wonder though, how involved are his assistants with decision making? They seem to be WAY more experienced coaches. His coaching cues during the fights suck too.
However, he is a nonstop fountain of hilarity. Usually, I Tivo TUF, and FF through most of the show until the fights. When Rampage is coaching, I watch every minute so I don’t miss him saying some crazy wierd shit.
[quote]Airtruth wrote:
cycobushmaster wrote:
just some random thoughts…
-good to see Mike Van Arsdale…as a former coach for the Army team, i was wondering if he would get out there and pass the torch, so to speak.
-Rampage is the worst coach ever…“do what ya do!” yeah, he said that the last time he coached, too (and it didn’t work then, either). if i got stuck on his team, i would be pissed. seriously.
-i thought Roy Nelson would show up in better shape…he’s always been fat, but he looks really out of shape, cardio-wise.
-Rashad comes across as a cool guy. kind of like how Tito looked cocky when he fought, but turned out to be a helluva good coach.
-i officially hate Rampage. i think it’s ironic how he talks smack about Rashad getting knocked out by Machida, but he turned down a fight with the champ. way to step up to the plate…oh, nevermind.
this season will prolly be the most interesting, drama-wise so far…
Why fight machida now and get 1 million dollars + defend your title against Rashad and get 1 million? When you can gas up a fight with rashad make 3 Million, then if you win, fight machida for $5mil. Your getting punched in the face you might as well get as much money as you can.
I would cry if Rampage was coaching me, I wonder if his skill level matches his coaching and he’s just a superior athlete.
[/quote]
that’s fine if he wants the pay day, but it’s bullshit to run your motuh about someone you’ve never fought, and act like HE’S the bitch.
but, that’s my opinion, and i do admit he can be pretty friggin funny.
The guys are only there for 6 weeks max when they film these. It doesn’t really matter how good of coaches any of these guys are, it just looks good on TV when they give proper instruction. They aren’t going to alter anyone’s game when they could be fighting 3 times during that span so hard sparring is out as well as any concept of proper peaking.
The best they can do is keep them in good shape and run them through drills to stay at whatever sharpness they came in with. Good wrestler versus wild bar puncher with rudimentary BJJ is going to go in the wrestlers favor no matter what Rampage yells at him. It all really comes down to who they pick at the beginning and Rashad seemed to do a much better job.
And Rampage = epic lulz.
[quote]Donut62 wrote:
The guys are only there for 6 weeks max when they film these. It doesn’t really matter how good of coaches any of these guys are, it just looks good on TV when they give proper instruction. They aren’t going to alter anyone’s game when they could be fighting 3 times during that span so hard sparring is out as well as any concept of proper peaking. The best they can do is keep them in good shape and run them through drills to stay at whatever sharpness they came in with. Good wrestler versus wild bar puncher with rudimentary BJJ is going to go in the wrestlers favor no matter what Rampage yells at him. It all really comes down to who they pick at the beginning and Rashad seemed to do a much better job.
And Rampage = epic lulz.[/quote]
you know his team lost, right?
[quote]Donut62 wrote:
The guys are only there for 6 weeks max when they film these. It doesn’t really matter how good of coaches any of these guys are, it just looks good on TV when they give proper instruction. They aren’t going to alter anyone’s game when they could be fighting 3 times during that span so hard sparring is out as well as any concept of proper peaking. The best they can do is keep them in good shape and run them through drills to stay at whatever sharpness they came in with. Good wrestler versus wild bar puncher with rudimentary BJJ is going to go in the wrestlers favor no matter what Rampage yells at him. It all really comes down to who they pick at the beginning and Rashad seemed to do a much better job.
And Rampage = epic lulz.[/quote]
i think with this eason, the coach matters more than ever. most of these guys are true natural athletes, but relativley inexperienced. a good coch can give them some good tools and strategies, but a bad coach will just stunt their career.
I like Brendan Schaub to win it.
ok ok ok
A. Rampage sucks as a couch. We all new that from the last time BUT, he’s funny and makes the show till the fight at the end.
B. Only thing i can tell of Kimbo is that there not gonna have him fight till they need to.
C. that cut was nasty
D. Roy’s a douch and thinks he’s way better than he is. Andre schooled him as did munson and there both good but irrelevant in the heavyweights.
[quote]Champ1989 wrote:
g but he is freakishly cut and his hands are real smooth. I mean Barry White smooth.[/quote]
Someone explain this to me.
the rapport back and forth between Rashad and Rampage is hilarious, especially when you can see them crack up at one of the other’s comments.
Rashad has learned his coaching from Jackson so he is bound to be good.
Rewatch the Monson fight, Roy won hands down.
[quote]cycobushmaster wrote:
Donut62 wrote:
…It all really comes down to who they pick at the beginning and Rashad seemed to do a much better job…
you know his team lost, right?[/quote]
You know you misread Donut’s post, right?
As for Roy Nelson, he was in similar or worse shape against Arlovski and Monson. Even that fat, he fought pretty well against them, and the Monson decision wasn’t that clear at all.
He’s great grappler and has very good chances to win it all - he should match-up pretty well against most of the other guys.
[quote]drewh wrote:
Rewatch the Monson fight, Roy won hands down.[/quote]
He was also dominating Arlovski, but two questionable standups let Arlovski back on his feet and he got the KO before Nelson could take him down again. I wouldn’t mind seeing Kimbo get a fluke KO over Roy though… Oh and x10 on Rampage being a horrible coach. He seems to be unable to assess people’s skillsets (granted they only had a bit of time to do so) and picked half of his team solely based on how strong they looked. I guess he assumes that since he isn’t the most skilled guy and uses his power and athleticism to win, that they can do the same.
[quote]Donut62 wrote:
The guys are only there for 6 weeks max when they film these. It doesn’t really matter how good of coaches any of these guys are, it just looks good on TV when they give proper instruction. They aren’t going to alter anyone’s game when they could be fighting 3 times during that span so hard sparring is out as well as any concept of proper peaking.
The best they can do is keep them in good shape and run them through drills to stay at whatever sharpness they came in with. Good wrestler versus wild bar puncher with rudimentary BJJ is going to go in the wrestlers favor no matter what Rampage yells at him. It all really comes down to who they pick at the beginning and Rashad seemed to do a much better job.
And Rampage = epic lulz.[/quote]
You make a valid point, but these guys aren’t just average Joe’s off the street. Many of them are professional athletes, and therefore likely capable of learning at an accelerated pace. A good coach could make a difference in that time period.
That’s still a different issue than giving coaching cues during a fight though. Yelling “get up” the first 10 times should have given Rampage the cue that maybe he needed to give more specific instructions to his fighter, yet he didn’t. That shows a lack of coaching ability.
Rampage is an excellent athlete and obviously is a top notch fighter, but he’s also pretty obviously not the same level coach.
i think i remember the last time he was a coach someone asked him how he does what he does in the cage and he remarked something to the effect of " I dont know i just go in there and do it." but i could be wrong