Okay, I watched the Couture-Vera fight on UFC last night.
46 year old man lays on 32 year old man (no gay) for most of 15 minutes. Young man kicks the living shit out of old man, mounts him twice, cuts him up…and loses?
Even the commentator was shocked.
Its shit like this that has me pretty much burned out on organised sport. UFC doesn’t convince people to spend on pay-per-view with this kind of stupidity.
Pathetic.
Thats all judges not the UFC.
Shit decisions happen. Any time you’ve got a judge deciding something, there’s the chance that it can happen.
Talk to Paulie Malignaggi or Sergio Martinez too…
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Shit decisions happen. Any time you’ve got a judge deciding something, there’s the chance that it can happen.
Talk to Paulie Malignaggi or Sergio Martinez too… [/quote]
Besides that, the UFC doesn’t pick the judges, the state (which ever one they’re holding the event in) athletic commission does. Often times, these judges are boxing judges (at best) and don’t really know what they’re looking at or how to score it.
So, you can’t really blame the UFC for the crappy decisions. Blame the governing bodies which force the UFC to use their (ignorant) judges.
Yes and no.
Business end, they’re doing better than ever.
Fights themselves… worst in a while. Horrible judging has been consistent. Fighters jump ship cause of contract negotiations. The Heavyweight division is turned on its head. And the best heavyweight fighters are on the end of their career or just not that interesting to watch. Meanwhile the other divisions thrive but are never highlighted and there are fighters in other organizations that FASCINATE everyone but won’t get over here because the UFC refuses to bend on a lot of issue. FUCK, the UFC can’t even keep ring girls. Bianca Beauchamp (Bianca Beauchamp - Wikipedia) should be a ring girl. Or a chick like her, not these pre-teen bodied chicks but, ugh, nevermind that is a whole other issue.
[quote]Sentoguy wrote:
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Shit decisions happen. Any time you’ve got a judge deciding something, there’s the chance that it can happen.
Talk to Paulie Malignaggi or Sergio Martinez too… [/quote]
Besides that, the UFC doesn’t pick the judges, the state (which ever one they’re holding the event in) athletic commission does. Often times, these judges are boxing judges (at best) and don’t really know what they’re looking at or how to score it.
So, you can’t really blame the UFC for the crappy decisions. Blame the governing bodies which force the UFC to use their (ignorant) judges.[/quote]
There’s a lot of smoke & mirrors there, lets just leave it at that.
[quote]Sentoguy wrote:
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Shit decisions happen. Any time you’ve got a judge deciding something, there’s the chance that it can happen.
Talk to Paulie Malignaggi or Sergio Martinez too… [/quote]
Besides that, the UFC doesn’t pick the judges, the state (which ever one they’re holding the event in) athletic commission does. Often times, these judges are boxing judges (at best) and don’t really know what they’re looking at or how to score it.
So, you can’t really blame the UFC for the crappy decisions. Blame the governing bodies which force the UFC to use their (ignorant) judges.[/quote]
Why would someone enter a contest where the judges were incompetent?
It will just take time. 10 years ago the only people who knew about MMA were the 5000 people who posted on Sherdog and spent 8 hours downloading a Shooto fight on dial up. Athletic commissions are made up of good old boy networks and this isn’t a old mans sport yet. Bad judging will always be a reality in any sport where a decision is rendered on individual and entirely fallible human perception, but MMA has a good ways to go still and the proliferation of the sport will make up for it. A lot of people still aren’t sure what they are looking at.
i don’t think it’s self destructing…more of a growing pain.
i think as people learn MMA, then we’ll have better judges (and refs). right now, like other guys said, many are from one background, and therefore judge accordingly.
hopefully this tranistion comes sooner than later, though, since i get annoyed with some of the shit judging as well. at least in MMA having a perfect record is pretty rare, so a bad decision doesn’t neccessarily ruin a fighter’s career…
Great post Donut.
thank you… all sports that have judges can truly suck.
I think its a few things- too many shows a year, leads to some less than compelling matches.
And having a few champs that right now are very dominant- or injured just makes it less interesting.
I think this forum is self destructing at a faster rate then the UFC.
and can someone quote headhunter in this post, I was almost going to take him off ignore,
but thought its probably not worth it.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
[quote]Sentoguy wrote:
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Shit decisions happen. Any time you’ve got a judge deciding something, there’s the chance that it can happen.
Talk to Paulie Malignaggi or Sergio Martinez too… [/quote]
Besides that, the UFC doesn’t pick the judges, the state (which ever one they’re holding the event in) athletic commission does. Often times, these judges are boxing judges (at best) and don’t really know what they’re looking at or how to score it.
So, you can’t really blame the UFC for the crappy decisions. Blame the governing bodies which force the UFC to use their (ignorant) judges.[/quote]
Why would someone enter a contest where the judges were incompetent?
[/quote]
To make money/earn a living maybe? It’s not like the fighters have any control over who the judges are. So they can either enter the contest and try to finish the fight decisively, knowing that they might fall victim to poor judging. Or work a regular job. They just choose to do the former.