UFC Primetime: St. Pierre vs. Penn Episode 1 Video - UFC 94

[quote]brand wrote:
Sentoguy wrote:
Fiction wrote:
Sentoguy wrote:
I’d have to disagree about him being a better striker though, GSP easily got the better of their striking exchanges. So, I don’t really know how you can say that.

In their first match-up I agree, BJ was the better striker. But, this time around GSP had learned a little something about striking strategy,the importance of doubling/tripling up his jabs, broken rhythm and feints, and attacking different levels of targets (going to the body as well as the head).

GSP pretty much conceded that Penn was the better boxer.

He and Greg Jackson intentionally made the first couple of rounds a wrestling match to cause his shoulder to freeze up and make BJ too tired to throw good shots.

No, he said that he thought Penn had faster hands, not necessarily a better boxer. The wrestling strategy was designed to slow Penn’s strikes down by tiring out his shoulders.

Still, even when Penn was fresh GSP got the better of him striking wise.

GSP’s use of feints, broken rythm, going to Penn’s body, doubling up his jabs and wrestling to tire BJ’s shoulders out was pretty much the perfect strategy for fighting a faster fighter.

They didn’t really strike while they were fresh. A handful of punches before GSP went for a takedown and clinched up. It was a good strategy, no doubt, but Georges didn’t want to all out strike with him to start off the fight. He didn’t get the best of it when that happened in their first fight. That’s why its MMA though, not boxing. [/quote]

Actually it was BJ who initiated the clinch, but yeah after watching it again, the first round was mostly clinch work.

I honestly think Georges would have still got the better of it this time around. When they first fought GSP always went for BJ’s head first (a mistake that Sherk also made) rather than mixing it up to the body, didn’t use any fakes, and didn’t use any broken rhythm to mess with BJ’s timing. This time he did.

Ah crap, I avoided all boards for a month after Christmas as I hate reading all the prefight debates and it would’ve been sweet to come back and talk about BJ’s win…unfortunately not so much.

I don’t have much to say about the fight or prefight antics, but if you’ve ever lived where BJ lives you’d understand that it isn’t bullshit posturing or talk - those guys are frickin nuts, plain and simple. All of them think they can fight and do so regularly. His story about getting called out to fight probably happened more often than not, and from friends that grew up with him, he would often fought guys that were twice his size growing up.

His (and his friend’s for that matter) personality isn’t really my cup of tea, but that’s just the way he grew up, fighting everyday.

As for his training. Obviously it didn’t work out for him him in this fight, but you don’t get ears like that from sitting the beach smoking weed all day.

I met GSP while they were here doing their prefigt hype stuff, he’s a big dude - and I mean that beyond being big for 170, he’s big in general (and a pretty nice guy) and I don’t think vaseline was the performance enhancer that impacted this fight the most. Just saying.

You’re right Slimjim, GSP probably had Surge Workout Fuel and Anaconda made available to him, and a case of Spike Shooters running through him.

Now those are performance enhancers.

:slight_smile:

[quote]WS4JB wrote:
You’re right Slimjim, GSP probably had Surge Workout Fuel and Anaconda made available to him, and a case of Spike Shooters running through him.

Now those are performance enhancers.

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Wasn’t GSP actually sponsored by T-Nation (or maybe just trained by Thibs) for awhile?

[quote]Fiction wrote:
WS4JB wrote:
You’re right Slimjim, GSP probably had Surge Workout Fuel and Anaconda made available to him, and a case of Spike Shooters running through him.

Now those are performance enhancers.

:slight_smile:

Wasn’t GSP actually sponsored by T-Nation (or maybe just trained by Thibs) for awhile?[/quote]

GSP was sponsored by Biotest Spike for a while, I am not sure if he is still affiliated with Biotest since I have not seen any of their logos on his gear lately. I wish he was though cuz it would bring a huge load of business to Biotest.

The last time I went to GNC he was still featured prominently on the Spike cases.

[quote]dhickey wrote:
I don’t see how BJ wins this one. He not going to take GSP down and he’s not gong to avoid GSPs takedowns. If GSP isn’t fairing well in the striking battle, which I think he will, he can just take BJ down.

I actually like BJ more than GSP and would love for him to win, but I just don’t see it. Bad match-up for him.[/quote]

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