Rich Franklin and Dana White get scapegoated by Bill O’Reilly.
Man, Bill O’Reilly should really get his facts straight, completely unwarranted. Why does he constantly use boxing examples for brain damage?
O’Reilly is such a prick. He doesn’t even let Rich finish what he is saying. Good points by Dana about boxing possibly being more damaging to a fighter than MMA. Ali got Parkinson’s by being punched in the head… “Is that a fact doctor?”
I’ll never understand why anyone would be a guest on that show…O’Reilly has made it a habit to cut his guets off while they are talking, especially if they are making a reasonable point and it’s a point that doesn’t vibe with what he’s trying to push across to the audience.
And yes, he is totally ignorant of the MMA/UFC background.
He’s not the only one, though. All of the newspapers that write stories on UFC always give Dana White and Zuffa undue credit for changing rules and creating weight classes when in reality, those things were put in place by SEG before Zuffa took things over in 2001. While Zuffa has made some modifications, the UFC hasn’t changed all that much from 1999-2000 to today, but yet, White and Zuffa get credit for it.
I’m not into MMA all that much but even I understand that it’s about martial arts, that you can win by submission and not just beating the crap out of your opponent. Franklin and White came across as intelligent and well-spoken.
Football players get spinal cord injuries. NASCAR vehicles crash and catch on fire. Do we ban those sports, too?
O’Reilly is a piece of shit spindoctor…I hate it when people wax intellectual on subjects they have no business discussing. Bullshit “studies” that are nothing more than numerical analysis of reported injuries, offering no breakdown of how they came to their conclusions is crap. Dammit, now I’m going to spend a lot of unnecessary time thinking about that crappy little snip from that shitty little show.
it’s been stated on here many times and bears repeating:
There has never been a death in a sanctioned MMA competiton in the United States.
There has been one death in a tournament in Russia in 1998, Douglas Dedge. Google Video has the fooage of teh fight. It does not say if it is the entire fight, but what is shown does not look much worse than most fights we’ve all seen in the UFC.
I thought the two UFC guys did well. It was obvious that O’Reilly knows nothing about what they do. I’ve never seen his show before to be honest, and I’m glad of that. You notice what he said when the UFC(?) President pushed him on the correlation between Ali and Parkinson’s. He had nothing to go on so he jumped to what Ali said about it. Just because Ali, himself, said it was from being punched in the head does not make it true. Michael J. Fox wasn’t a boxer.
It’s frustrating that this type of guy is able to reach so many people.
I actually thought that Rich Franklin came across as one of the most well-spoken athletes I’ve ever seen.
I love the part when O’Reilly asked Franklin if it was all about the money, Franklin goes on a 40-second explanation about how he’s living out his childhood dream of becoming a professional athlete and his passion for the sport. Then O’Reilly responds with: “So is it all about the money?”
What a tool. He came across looking like an idiot.
[quote]lawsonsamuels wrote:
it’s been stated on here many times and bears repeating:
There has never been a death in a sanctioned MMA competiton in the United States.[/quote]
This is exactly the direction the UFC and MMA SHOULD NOT be going towards. While this is a fact, all it is doing is drawing more attention to that statement…because if God forbid someone does die in a UFC fight (either in the octagon or shortly afterwards), then the media will be all over the UFC and calling for it to be banned again because they will go back to that very point that UFC keeps trying to make about how no one has died.
[quote]Djwlfpack wrote:
lawsonsamuels wrote:
it’s been stated on here many times and bears repeating:
There has never been a death in a sanctioned MMA competiton in the United States.
This is exactly the direction the UFC and MMA SHOULD NOT be going towards. While this is a fact, all it is doing is drawing more attention to that statement…because if God forbid someone does die in a UFC fight (either in the octagon or shortly afterwards), then the media will be all over the UFC and calling for it to be banned again because they will go back to that very point that UFC keeps trying to make about how no one has died.
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You can always compare it to the bowling death statistics. I am not kidding, the most dangerous sport in the world.
Sudden rise of blood pressure in an untrained population with a beer gut…
There are blood vessels with a sudden fatal reaction to that…
[quote]Djwlfpack wrote:
lawsonsamuels wrote:
it’s been stated on here many times and bears repeating:
There has never been a death in a sanctioned MMA competiton in the United States.
This is exactly the direction the UFC and MMA SHOULD NOT be going towards. While this is a fact, all it is doing is drawing more attention to that statement…because if God forbid someone does die in a UFC fight (either in the octagon or shortly afterwards), then the media will be all over the UFC and calling for it to be banned again because they will go back to that very point that UFC keeps trying to make about how no one has died.
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True, but how many people have died during car races? No talk about banning NASCAR in the near future. How many people have been paralyzed playing football? I think the relative safety of MMA should be played up to a certain extent because those that attack it are going after their perceived brutality of the sport.
You’re all trying to rationalise and understand the opinion of an idiot spin doctor.
I’ve caught O’Reilly on Fox over here in the UK, I used to think his shows were pretty interesting (the topics atleast) until I started to catch shows where he’d get someone on with an opinion different to his. Oh shit.
Anyone seen the video where he lays in to a kid who’s dad died in 9/11?
Fucking shocking.