UCSB kid that murdered 7

[quote]theuofh wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]ChongLordUno wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:
In some ways he is not wrong you know, because if girls react to social dominance the succesful route is to escalate.

Granted, his way was a bit disfunctional, but if fratboys, DJs, and guidos take the creme of the crop, there is an obvious way of being more dominant than them.

Throughout most of human history his approach would have been close to the right one and the more of a Bonobo society we get, the more of this we will reap.

Thats the red pill, red in tooth and claw. [/quote]

Just a shame that this fucknugget was gobbling blue pills like they were smarties.
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No, I will not disown him, part of what he got, he got from us.

Not enough, for why would he care, but enough to understand what was going on.[/quote]

This pickup stuff is getting out of hand. He should either have taken his daddy’s money and bought some high dollar escorts or shot himself, both would have solved his problems. [/quote]
Yeah he’d probably project less of a creepy and needy vibe on girls if he actually got some. Nothing wrong with doing a direct transaction.

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]ChongLordUno wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:
In some ways he is not wrong you know, because if girls react to social dominance the succesful route is to escalate.

Granted, his way was a bit disfunctional, but if fratboys, DJs, and guidos take the creme of the crop, there is an obvious way of being more dominant than them.

Throughout most of human history his approach would have been close to the right one and the more of a Bonobo society we get, the more of this we will reap.

Thats the red pill, red in tooth and claw. [/quote]

Just a shame that this fucknugget was gobbling blue pills like they were smarties.
[/quote]

No, I will not disown him, part of what he got, he got from us.

Not enough, for why would he care, but enough to understand what was going on.[/quote]

So rape by deception (game) isn’t good enough anymore, and people should just go straight to mass murder?

That whole philosophy is bullshit and its patrons are just angry sniveling worms.

Here’s his manifesto: http://www.scribd.com/doc/225960813/Elliot-Rodger-Santa-Barbara-mass-shooting-suspect-My-Twisted-World-manifesto

I guess he was also posting on BB.com in a thread complaining of having a smaller(er) penis, wondering if it was normal, wondering why women liked bulky guys instead of smaller leaner guys etc. I couldn’t read the postings and I guess the website pulled the page but there are some screen shots of it.
I also read that the first few people killed were actually stabbed and may have been male. Im actually surprised SBPD didn’t have this locked down faster. As compared to past incidents ive seen up there and in comparison to the santa monica shooting few months back.

[quote]theuofh wrote:
Here’s his manifesto: http://www.scribd.com/doc/225960813/Elliot-Rodger-Santa-Barbara-mass-shooting-suspect-My-Twisted-World-manifesto
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I just skimmed that entire document, and Mother of God, that is literally the craziest shit I have ever read in my entire life.

Latest news says 3 of the people were stabbed (his male roommates I think). Then shot 2 women and a man possibly while driving, then injured 13 which I wouldn’t be surprised if most of those were with his car.

csulli, then you don’t read a lot amigo :wink:

[quote]orion wrote:

No, I will not disown him,

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You’re a very sick person.

Bullshit. Girls didn’t like him because he was a creepy narcissist with delusions of grandeur.

[quote]theuofh wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]ChongLordUno wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:
In some ways he is not wrong you know, because if girls react to social dominance the succesful route is to escalate.

Granted, his way was a bit disfunctional, but if fratboys, DJs, and guidos take the creme of the crop, there is an obvious way of being more dominant than them.

Throughout most of human history his approach would have been close to the right one and the more of a Bonobo society we get, the more of this we will reap.

Thats the red pill, red in tooth and claw. [/quote]

Just a shame that this fucknugget was gobbling blue pills like they were smarties.
[/quote]

No, I will not disown him, part of what he got, he got from us.

Not enough, for why would he care, but enough to understand what was going on.[/quote]

This pickup stuff is getting out of hand. He should either have taken his daddy’s money and bought some high dollar escorts or shot himself, both would have solved his problems. [/quote]

Thats what I would have told him to do.

The first part, but he did not just want sex, he wanted female validation.

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

No, I will not disown him,

[/quote]

You’re a very sick person.

Bullshit. Girls didn’t like him because he was a creepy narcissist with delusions of grandeur.
[/quote]

No, I am not a sick individual, I am just not a very emotional one.

Yes, but the shape his delusions took where shaped by the society he lived in.

[quote]SkyzykS wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]ChongLordUno wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:
In some ways he is not wrong you know, because if girls react to social dominance the succesful route is to escalate.

Granted, his way was a bit disfunctional, but if fratboys, DJs, and guidos take the creme of the crop, there is an obvious way of being more dominant than them.

Throughout most of human history his approach would have been close to the right one and the more of a Bonobo society we get, the more of this we will reap.

Thats the red pill, red in tooth and claw. [/quote]

Just a shame that this fucknugget was gobbling blue pills like they were smarties.
[/quote]

No, I will not disown him, part of what he got, he got from us.

Not enough, for why would he care, but enough to understand what was going on.[/quote]

So rape by deception (game) isn’t good enough anymore, and people should just go straight to mass murder?

That whole philosophy is bullshit and its patrons are just angry sniveling worms.
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It seems like I was “raped” a lot, by fake tits, legs, eye lashes…

Be that as it may, you may have a point…

However you labeling someone like him as a sniveling worm will not stop him, it will edge him on.

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

No, I will not disown him,

[/quote]

You’re a very sick person.

Bullshit. Girls didn’t like him because he was a creepy narcissist with delusions of grandeur.
[/quote]

No, I am not a sick individual, I am just not a very emotional one.

Yes, but the shape his delusions took where shaped by the society he lived in. [/quote]

You know nothing about this guy other than he was batshit crazy and couldn’t get laid. What do you think society did to him?

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

No, I will not disown him,

[/quote]

You’re a very sick person.

Bullshit. Girls didn’t like him because he was a creepy narcissist with delusions of grandeur.
[/quote]

No, I am not a sick individual, I am just not a very emotional one.

Yes, but the shape his delusions took where shaped by the society he lived in. [/quote]

You know nothing about this guy other than he was batshit crazy and couldn’t get laid. What do you think society did to him?
[/quote]

I know that his world view was shaped by the Manosphere (gargle…), redpill stuff because I can smell it on him.

I know that his idea of getting women was trying to be suuuuper nice and having a provider vibe…

I know that 2 was not succesful, 1 and 2 clashed and that his NPD personality did not allow him to let go of the idelized provider type persona society has hammered into him.

Mixed messages are a hell of a challenge anyway, but if your ideal self is invested in something that no longer works in any way, shape or form, well, something is gotta give…

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

No, I will not disown him,

[/quote]

You’re a very sick person.

Bullshit. Girls didn’t like him because he was a creepy narcissist with delusions of grandeur.
[/quote]

No, I am not a sick individual, I am just not a very emotional one.

Yes, but the shape his delusions took where shaped by the society he lived in. [/quote]

You know nothing about this guy other than he was batshit crazy and couldn’t get laid. What do you think society did to him?
[/quote]

I know that his world view was shaped by the Manosphere (gargle…), redpill stuff because I can smell it on him.

I know that his idea of getting women was trying to be suuuuper nice and having a provider vibe…

I know that 2 was not succesful, 1 and 2 clashed and that his NPD personality did not allow him to let go of the idelized provider type persona society has hammered into him.

Mixed messages are a hell of a challenge anyway, but if your ideal self is invested in something that no longer works in any way, shape or form, well, something is gotta give… [/quote]

That’s an explanation of why a beta male has trouble getting laid. This guy was 22, had never kissed a girl, had no friends and was a delusional narcissist. That’s why he went kill crazy. It had nothing to do with his game skills.

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

No, I will not disown him,

[/quote]

You’re a very sick person.

Bullshit. Girls didn’t like him because he was a creepy narcissist with delusions of grandeur.
[/quote]

No, I am not a sick individual, I am just not a very emotional one.

Yes, but the shape his delusions took where shaped by the society he lived in. [/quote]

You know nothing about this guy other than he was batshit crazy and couldn’t get laid. What do you think society did to him?
[/quote]

I know that his world view was shaped by the Manosphere (gargle…), redpill stuff because I can smell it on him.

I know that his idea of getting women was trying to be suuuuper nice and having a provider vibe…

I know that 2 was not succesful, 1 and 2 clashed and that his NPD personality did not allow him to let go of the idelized provider type persona society has hammered into him.

Mixed messages are a hell of a challenge anyway, but if your ideal self is invested in something that no longer works in any way, shape or form, well, something is gotta give… [/quote]

That’s an explanation of why a beta male has trouble getting laid. This guy was 22, had never kissed a girl, had no friends and was a delusional narcissist. That’s why he went kill crazy. It had nothing to do with his game skills.
[/quote]

Look at Clovers “No more Mr Nice Guy” and stuff, some guys operate on invisble scripts and whatnot, the trouble is , those scripts might have worked not so long ago.

In some ways, institutionalizing male phantasies makes for a better society.

If you remove that, if you create a society where men no longer are necessarily invested in, well, Brave New World and so further and so on…

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

No, I will not disown him,

[/quote]

You’re a very sick person.

Bullshit. Girls didn’t like him because he was a creepy narcissist with delusions of grandeur.
[/quote]

No, I am not a sick individual, I am just not a very emotional one.

Yes, but the shape his delusions took where shaped by the society he lived in. [/quote]

You know nothing about this guy other than he was batshit crazy and couldn’t get laid. What do you think society did to him?
[/quote]

I know that his world view was shaped by the Manosphere (gargle…), redpill stuff because I can smell it on him.

I know that his idea of getting women was trying to be suuuuper nice and having a provider vibe…

I know that 2 was not succesful, 1 and 2 clashed and that his NPD personality did not allow him to let go of the idelized provider type persona society has hammered into him.

Mixed messages are a hell of a challenge anyway, but if your ideal self is invested in something that no longer works in any way, shape or form, well, something is gotta give… [/quote]

That’s an explanation of why a beta male has trouble getting laid. This guy was 22, had never kissed a girl, had no friends and was a delusional narcissist. That’s why he went kill crazy. It had nothing to do with his game skills.
[/quote]

Look at Clovers “No more Mr Nice Guy” and stuff, some guys operate on invisble scripts and whatnot, the trouble is , those scripts might have worked not so long ago.

In some ways, institutionalizing male phantasies makes for a better society.

If you remove that, if you create a society where men no longer are necessarily invested in, well, Brave New World and so further and so on…
[/quote]

That’s all well and good but it isn’t relevant here. This guy was born like this. Call it Anti-Social Personality Disorder, Narcissistic Personality Disorder or psychopathy - if you gave him a brain scan you’d find a lack of activity in the amygdala. Some people become psychopaths after an injury to this region of the brain, eg Ulrich Meinhoff. She had an operation to remove a tumour in 1962 that left her amygdala damaged. That’s why these people are psychopaths.

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

No, I will not disown him,

[/quote]

You’re a very sick person.

Bullshit. Girls didn’t like him because he was a creepy narcissist with delusions of grandeur.
[/quote]

No, I am not a sick individual, I am just not a very emotional one.

Yes, but the shape his delusions took where shaped by the society he lived in. [/quote]

You know nothing about this guy other than he was batshit crazy and couldn’t get laid. What do you think society did to him?
[/quote]

I know that his world view was shaped by the Manosphere (gargle…), redpill stuff because I can smell it on him.

I know that his idea of getting women was trying to be suuuuper nice and having a provider vibe…

I know that 2 was not succesful, 1 and 2 clashed and that his NPD personality did not allow him to let go of the idelized provider type persona society has hammered into him.

Mixed messages are a hell of a challenge anyway, but if your ideal self is invested in something that no longer works in any way, shape or form, well, something is gotta give… [/quote]

That’s an explanation of why a beta male has trouble getting laid. This guy was 22, had never kissed a girl, had no friends and was a delusional narcissist. That’s why he went kill crazy. It had nothing to do with his game skills.
[/quote]

Look at Clovers “No more Mr Nice Guy” and stuff, some guys operate on invisble scripts and whatnot, the trouble is , those scripts might have worked not so long ago.

In some ways, institutionalizing male phantasies makes for a better society.

If you remove that, if you create a society where men no longer are necessarily invested in, well, Brave New World and so further and so on…
[/quote]

That’s all well and good but it isn’t relevant here. This guy was born like this. Call it Anti-Social Personality Disorder, Narcissistic Personality Disorder or psychopathy - if you gave him a brain scan you’d find a lack of activity in the amygdala. Some people become psychopaths after an injury to this region of the brain, eg Ulrich Meinhoff. She had an operation to remove a tumour in 1962 that left her amygdala damaged. That’s why these people are psychopaths.
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Well yes, some people are simply damaged.

However, they are the canaries in a coal mine.

The shape their damage takes is indicative of things to come.

[quote]hipsr4runnin wrote:
csulli, then you don’t read a lot amigo :wink:
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Do you have a specific example? There is a big difference for me in reading this and reading someone’s crazy Lovecraftian fiction. I’m talking about the written thoughts of someone in real life. Maybe you have 10 memoirs like this, but I haven’t seen any.

Wow scary shit! I was camping near Chumash Casino yesterday and today and drove by UCSB earlier that night!

[quote]cstratton2 wrote:
Wow scary shit! I was camping near Chumash Casino yesterday and today and drove by UCSB earlier that night![/quote]
Just a reminder to stay safe.