I like 5x2 or 10x1 after DL with around 80-85% of your TM, pause two to three seconds in the hole. It’s not a Wendler approved idea, just one I’ve used myself with success.
definitely will give it a try, see how it goes. Thx for the tip.
C3W3D1 Squats
Set 1 92,5kg x 5 reps
Set 2 105kg x 3 reps
Set 3 117,5kg x 5 reps
FSL 5 sets of 8 reps @92,5kg
last set of the fsl was a little bit challenging, i believe it’s the first time in this program i have to push a set, looking forward for the next cycle should be fun
C3W3D2 Bench press
Set 1 66,5kg x 5 reps
Set 2 75kg x 3 reps
Set 3 85kg x 5 reps
Joker 1 95kg x 2 reps
Joker 2 105kg x 1 rep
Joker 3 110kg x 1 rep
Joker 4 115kg x 1 rep (new pr)
Between every set i did lat pulldown and face pulls 10 reps(except joker sets)
FSL 5 sets of 8 reps @ 66,5kg , superset with barbell rows using the same barbell
Dips: 6, 6 and 9 reps
Finisher : dumbbell flys and straight arm pushdown, 3 sets of 10 reps w/no rest
C3W3 D3&4 Deadlift and OHP
Set 1 90kgx 5 reps
Set 2 100kg x 3 reps
Set 3 115kg x 5 reps
Joker 1 140kg x 1 rep
Joker 2 150kg x 1 rep
Joker 3 160kg x 1 rep
Joker 4 180kg x 1 rep → FAILED
Paused front squats(3sec pause) 3 sets of 5 reps @80kg my back was burning w/this one
OHP
Set 1 50kg x 5 reps
Set 2 55kg x 3 reps
Set 3 65kg x 5 reps
Joker 1 70kg x 1 rep
Joker 2 75kg x 1 rep
Joker 3 80kg x 1 rep —>NEW PR
I’m pretty happy with how things are going, however i set a goal to hit 180kg(405lbs for those who read english) deadlift and i feel it’s very close. I would like to hit it before new year so i was thinking on doing a 3week deadlift program to make it happen. I was wondering what @MarkKO do you think about it, and if you could please layout a 3 week program to accomplish my goal or some guidelines at least.
I’d just keep doing what you’re doing. Don’t change anything. If you hit 160 kg but fail 180 kg you’re probably not going to get 180 kg in three weeks without derailing all your other training, and why would you do that? You’ll get 180 kg soon enough, rushing it would be counterproductive.
i’ll keep doing the programme then!
C4W1D1 Squats
Set 1 82,5kg x 5 reps
Set 3 95 kg x 5 reps
Set 3 107,5kg x 10 reps
FSL 5 sets of 8 reps @82,5kg
Leg extensions 5 sets of 20 reps
RDL 3 sets of 10 @ 60kg
C4W1D34 OHP DL
This was a special week, since i had some finals and just started on my new job, so i didn’t have time to really go to the gym except for wednesday. I believe that by next week i can get back on track with my training.
Deadlift:
Set 1 80kg x 5 reps
Set 2 95kg x 5 reps
Set 3 120kg x 10 reps
Joker 140kg x 2 reps
Joker 140kg x 3 reps
FSL: 5 sets of 8reps@80kg of front squat and holy fuck they suck , my back was burning like crazy.definitely gonna keep them doing
Then i moved to ohp
Set 1 45kg x 5 reps
Set 2 52,5kg x 5 reps
Set 3 60kg x 7 reps …first time i fail to get 10 reps, i was pretty exhausted to this point so i was ok with getting 7 in
FSL 5sets of 8reps@45kg , facepulls between every main and fsl set.
C4W2D1 Squat
I started by doiing only the required reps for the bench week 1 i was missing from last week, then i proceeded to squat
Set 1 90kg x 3 reps
Set 2 102kg x 3 reps
Set 3 115kg x 8 reps
FSL 5 sets of 8 reps @ 90kg
RDL 3 sets of 10 reps @80kg
Leg extension 4 sets 20 reps full stack
weights came up pretty good, finished school till february so i except to come back to my usual routine since past 2 weeks i’ve been going only 3 times per week.
also thinking that i might try to drop some fat, but i don’t want to hinder my progress…i don’t know i think currently i’m overweight at least(i don’t think i look like i lift, though lot of people asks me if i play rugby idk
) but also being quite honest with myself my diet is not in a great place. maybe i need set up a good diet and try to stick it at least 3 months to see what happens…
C4W3D1 Squats (forgot to upload the last week, got dls and ohp done)
Set 1 90kg x 5 reps
Set 2 110kg x 3 reps
Set 3 120kg x 5 reps
Joker 1 130kg x 1 rep
Joker 2 135kg x 1 rep
Joker 3 140kg x 1 rep
Joker 4 145kg x 1 rep
Joker 5 150kg x 1 rep(New PR +10kg)
FSL 5 sets of 8 reps @90kg
Leg extensions 4 till my quads couldn’t lift a single block
Since i’m going to take a deload week before starting cycle 5, i decided to push this week to see how far can i go, almost 4 months ago i struggled with 140kg and never again touched anything heavier than 120kg in this 4 cycles…150kg came up pretty easy i think i had 155kg at least maybe 160kg but didn’t wanted to push too far, really happy with how the squat has been progressing so far, looking forward to the rest of this week.
C4W3D2 Bench
face pulls 5 sets of 20 reps
lat pulldown 5 sets of 10 reps
Set 1 70kg x 5 reps
Set 2 80kg x 3 reps
Set 3 85kg x 5 reps
Joker 1 100kg x 1 rep
Joker 2 110kg x 1 rep
Joker 3 115kg x 1 rep
Joker 4 117,5kg x 1 rep(failed)
FSL 5 sets of 8 reps @70kg superset with bent over row 5 set 8 rep 70kg
Dumbbell fly 3 sets of 10 reps, straight arm pushdown 3 sets 10 reps
Dips 1 all out set got 10 reps(i forgot them and made them last xD)
i knew i wasn’t gonna get the bech pr as soon as i lift the 100kg one, wasn’t feeling as smooth as other sessions
C4W3D3 Deadlift
Set 1 90kg x 5 reps
Set 2 105kg x 3 reps
Set 3 120kg x 5 reps
Joker 1 140kg x 3 reps
Joker 2 160kg x 1 rep
Joker 3 170kg x 1 rep (New PR +10kg)
Joker 4 180kg x 1 repfailed
Was gonna keep doing the front squats but the rack was busy so i did some snatch grip deadlift instead for the upper back FSL 5 sets of 8reps @90kg
Dumbbell row 3 sets 20 reps
Lat pull down 3 sets of 10 reps slow superset straight arm pushdown 3 sets 10 reps
Very nice pr for my deadlift, was aiming at 180kg this year but nvm i’m sure i’ll have it next year, tomorrow is my last workout of the year, gonna analyze this 4 cycles i’ve run and try to set some realistic goals for the first semester of next year.
C4W3D4 OHP
Set 1 50kg x 5 reps
Set 2 60kg x 3 reps
Set 3 65kg x 5 reps
FSL 5 sets of 8 reps @50kg
DELOAD DAY 1
Squats → 3 sets of 5 reps @80kg
Front squats → 3 sets 15 reps
barbell curl 5 sets 10 reps
concentrated curl 3 sets 12 reps
curls 3 sets 10 reps
finished the deload week with 3 sets of 5 at 50% on the main movements and some accesories, gonna start my 5th cycle next monday. i will change the assistance template from fsl to bbb since i think it’s time for a change and they are pretty similar
C5W1D1 Squats
Set 1 85kg x 5 reps
Set 2 100kg x 5 reps
Set 3 110kg x 5 reps
BBB Deadlift → 5 sets of 10 reps @70kg
Ab wheel(knees) → 5 sets of 10 reps
C5W1D2 Bench press
Set 1 70kg x 5 reps
Set 2 80kg x 5 reps
Set 3 90kg x 5 reps
BBB OHP 5 sets of 10 reps @37,5kg
Finisher superset of curls, tri pushdown and face pulls, 5 sets of 10 reps 1 min rest
C5W1D3 Deadlift
Set 1 100kg x 5 reps-sumo
Set 2 110kg x 5 reps-conv
Set 3 120kg x 5 reps-sumo
BBB - Front squat 5 sets of 10 reps @65kg
Hanging leg raises - 3 sets of 10 reps and my abs gave up, missed 2 sets
started pulling sumo for the first time on monday, and felt pretty good so i’m gonna keep using it as main lift with the conventional, also for the boring but big i know the program says to use the main lift, but i want to switch things a little and currently i’m using these variations
for squats, i use front squats as BBB
for deadlifts, i’m gonna incorporate deficit deadlifts(weak point of mine) and snatch grip deadlifts
for bench, maybe go with dumbbell bench, incline or floor presses
for ohp, i think i’m going to do z press or dumbbell ohp
and back, all kinds of rowing i don’t know if it’s a good idea but i life to switch it a lot, with the barbell i switch my grip every set(wider narrower), also db rows and tbar rows + some vertical pulling(lat pulldown/chins/pullups)
i know it’s not exactly as jim writes it in his book, and i don’t think i have the knowledge or experience to switch things at all, but i think it isn’t such a bad idea to perform some variatons of the main lifts…i would really appreciate some feedback/thoughts about this ![]()
That definitely isn’t the worst idea. If this keep you motivated and enjoying your training by adding some diversity to your exercises than do it. You aren’t going to be sabotaging all your work by making this tweak. This change could be exactly what YOUR body needs. 5/3/1 is an amazing generic program that works great for MOST (I personally use it and love it), but some people find ways to make it better for their personal goals.
I have changed 5/3/1 more times than I can remember, but I often end up coming back to the bare bones program after I over-complicate things. Give it a good effort and judge the change based on your progress. Also, if you change it, you lose the ability to complain about it not working (hopefully that isn’t the case, though)!
Good luck!
C5W1D4 OHP
Set 1 45kg x 5 reps
Set 2 55kg x 5 reps
Set 3 60kg x 5 reps
BBB Incline bench press - 5 sets of 10 reps @45kg …didn’t felt good on my left shoulder, gonna try something else maybe dumbbell bench or floor press.
Lat pulldowns - 5 sets of 10 reps
Finisher supersets 5 sets of 10 reps barbell curl, tricep pushdown, facepulls.
Barbell shrugs - pyramid 10 8 6 5 3 reps at 160kg last set
Dumbell shrugs - 5 sets of 12 reps
C5W2D1 Squats
Set 1 92kg x 3 reps
Set 2 105kg x 3 reps
Set 3 120kg x 3 reps (beltless pr)
BBB Deadlift 5 sets of 10 reps @65kg
Superset 5 sets of 10 ab wheel and rdls