Trump: The Second Year

But the Indians also had a definition so that suggests that liberty, as a concept, does not exist outside of people and/or government.

Yes, and your answer suggest liberation didn’t come from the govt.

Then the victorious govt., that one that can actually well, govern, gets to decide. In which, case were they liberated?

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The US govt using force isn’t evidence against my argument. Govts., including native ones, use force. The power to govern.

Why do you keep asking a question that makes no sense? You are asking if the government, which was not trying to liberate anyone, liberated them. You need to show that that was the objective.

You’re yet to provide anything that the govt even believed they were liberating natives. As far as I’m aware, the govt at the time did not believe they were liberating anyone.

More than happy for you to prove me wrong though

What? This is simple, any action the US govt took, was a liberating act, if liberation came from the government. Including subduing the brutal and savage natives, whose children they’d later stick in schools to learn how be properly liberated Americans.

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Did the govt. liberate the natives or trespass against their liberty?

Define liberation and government action.

Also, if you actually read your post, as I unfortunately did, you will see that nowhere do you show that liberty comes from nature.

Let’s try it this way.

The govt intentionally and systematically trespassed on their liberty and acknowledge they didn’t liberate the natives, but conquered them. Feel free to prove me wrong

Did the govt. liberate the natives or trespass against their liberty? I’m not going to start defining action and liberation, and then whatever else is next… This is a simple question

I think that was answered.

Where?

Look up.

Did you just quote my answer to your question with the same question? The shit?

Then it trespassed against the liberty of the natives… So, the natives liberty existed independently outside of the govt.

Thank you.

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It wasn’t meant for you, I was simply restating the question. Meant to edit it out.

Which government? Certainly not their own.

usmc goes to lunch 90 unread comments… Good grief

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The govt. that had the power to govern over them. You know, like a govt.

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