Trump: The Second Year

Your question is nonsensical.

COULD they have? Of course. It’s history. Anyone could claim anything

Did they?

The claim is that liberty comes from government.

Were the natives liberated then? Or, was their liberty trespassed upon?

This is your problem: you are asking people to defend a position they never held.

Liberty then doesn’t come from the government.

Was the liberty of the natives trespassed upon?

To answer yes is to suggest liberty exists outside of govt. (therefore, people)

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The government allows whatever it defines as liberty to exist in that form. In representative governments that definition would come from the majority of the people.

And by allow I also mean secure and defend.

Absolutely. To my knowledge, the govt didn’t claim they were liberating the natives. Happy to be wrong though

So the forced separation of native children weren’t seen as freeing and liberating?

You know so much, tell us what their motivations were.

The point was to bring liberty to the US.

I have no idea. I was neither present nor am a historic scholar. That’s why I keep asking you

Bring it from where?

Anyone?

From the government and it’s people who wanted the country ‘tamed’ for liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Actually you are wrong. The Indians had their own governments and so had their own ideas of what liberty is. Unless you are saying they weren’t people.

No sir, you are wrong. If it is govt that gets to define liberty, then the US was the government that had the power to exercise its definition.

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They wanted to liberate the land? I guess that would also explain what happened to the bison.

Shit man you even responded to me answering this

Yes, it would. If liberty originates with the body that can impose its power (the govt).