I’ve never suggested this. Nor did the Oxfam paper in fact, which is one reason I asked if you’d read it. Holy strawman Batman.
The OBSERVED death rate. Which, of course, has been colored by the refusal of the fohm to let certain people into the hospital or test them if they are in a demographic that’s deemed either “not likely enough to survive” or “unlikely to suffer severe effects”. And the drop in death rate is very likely following the summer tradition of going to cabins (i.e. voluntary isolation) for the past few months.
In other news, even the WHO now says this is the wrong approach:
Dr. David Nabarro from the WHO appealed to world leaders yesterday, telling them to stop “using lockdowns as your primary control method” of the coronavirus.
He also claimed that the only thing lockdowns achieved was poverty – with no mention of the potential lives saved.
“Lockdowns just have one consequence that you must never ever belittle, and that is making poor people an awful lot poorer,” he said.
…Dr Nabarro’s main criticism of lockdowns involved the global impact, explaining how poorer economies that had been indirectly affected.
“Just look at what’s happened to the tourism industry in the Caribbean, for example, or in the Pacific because people aren’t taking their holidays,” he said.
“Look what’s happened to smallholder farmers all over the world. … Look what’s happening to poverty levels. It seems that we may well have a doubling of world poverty by next year. We may well have at least a doubling of child malnutrition.”
Unfortunately, people blaze right past hygienic methods and go for the hot topic.
So is it a good idea to go take a vacation in a place that may be a real 2nd/3rd world outbreak zone, or should a cruise ship of people show up and make sure it becomes one?
Like, why would this guy suggest that millions of Americans, who already flout any suggestion of controlling themselves or anything that has to do with this pandemic, travel en mass to other places?
The daily pandemic death counts in Ontario include people who have tested positive for COVID-19 but have not necessarily died from the virus.
The exact number of people who fit into this category is unknown by the government and not even being counted.
The Sun was able to confirm this information after speaking with three of the hardest hit public health units in Ontario — Toronto, Ottawa and Peel Region.
“The mortality data sent to the Ministry and reported in (Ottawa Public Health) dashboard/reports represents the number of Ottawa residents with confirmed COVID-19 who have passed away,” an Ottawa Public Health spokesperson explained via email. “It does not indicate if COVID-19 was the cause of death, and we can’t make that inference.”
You just talk bullshit, I can’t take you seriously.
About the virus or the murders?
Chicago is not half as bad, only 510 murders last year, Jamaica had 1,326 murders and the population is only about 300,000 more than Chicago.
A few years ago Montego Bay had the highest murder rate for any city in the world. There is now a state of emergency and "zones of special operations " (basically areas under martial law) and as a result the crime and violence has spread everywhere.
The parish of St James has a population of 186,000 residents, 111,000 of whom live in the parish capital Montego Bay, which reported 255 murders year to date at a staggering rate of 230 murders per 100,000 of population. At this rate Montego Bay is unquestionably the deadliest city in the entire world and tracks at 38 times above the global murder rate. If we express the murders against the parish’s population of 186,000, the parish of St James reports a murder rate of 137 per 100,000 of the population and is still the deadliest place in the world for countries not at war.
If you factor in that the murders in Chicago take place in certain parts of Chicago, and not the whole city, the murder rate is probably worse than Jamaica.
Most of the murders in Jamaica are related to political violence. Before this year(damned corona) we usually visit Jamaica every year. If you stay out of Kingston its pretty safe.
Ontario? Who cares? We’re talking about the US, in which authorities are using the “but for” causation to determine whether the coronavirus causes the death. And if the coronavirus triggered underlying conditions, the coronavirus is the cause. Borrowed from something I saw on social media to illustrate the point:
A person is a Type 1 diabetic
That person gets attacked by a bear
That person dies in the hospital because doctors couldn’t regulate that person’s blood sugar in treating injuries caused by the bear
Yeah but if you factor in that certain parts of Jamaica have much more murders than the island as a whole then it’s worse than Chicago. And did any part of Chicago with around 100,000 residents ever have 300 murders in a single year?
Anyway, my point was that the murders are a much bigger problem than COVID.
Not really. There are politically affiliated gangs, but not much of what they do has anything to do with politics.
False. I’m talking about Ontario, and the same thing was going on in the US for a while, I just didn’t believe it until now.
Except COVID is special because if you die while infected from any cause at all it’s reported as a COVID death.
