Yes sir, we pop a top in upstate NY. 810 wgy. Only get the afternoon show though. Been listening to him for years, but it’s difficult since Levin is on at the same time in our market.
These are things that if they gain traction may actually make some of these people turn the page on Trumpism or stop the next bunch from doing the same thing.
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Text of the forbes statement:
As American democracy rebounds, we need to return to a standard of truth when it comes to how the government communicates with the governed. The easiest way to do that, from where I sit, is to create repercussions for those who don’t follow the civic norms. Trump’s lawyers lie gleefully to the press and public, but those lies, magically, almost never made it into briefs and arguments – contempt, perjury and disbarment keep the professional standards high.
So what’s the parallel in the dark arts of communication? Simple: Don’t let the chronic liars cash in on their dishonesty. Press secretaries like Joe Lockhart, Ari Fleischer and Jay Carney, who left the White House with their reputations in various stages of intact, made millions taking their skills — and credibility — to corporate America. Trump’s liars don’t merit that same golden parachute. Let it be known to the business world: Hire any of Trump’s fellow fabulists above, and Forbes will assume that everything your company or firm talks about is a lie. We’re going to scrutinize, double-check, investigate with the same skepticism we’d approach a Trump tweet. Want to ensure the world’s biggest business media brand approaches you as a potential funnel of disinformation? Then hire away.
This isn’t cancel culture, which is a societal blight. (There’s surely a nice living for each of these press secretaries on the true-believer circuit.) Nor is this politically motivated, as Forbes ’ pro-entrepreneur, pro-growth worldview has generally placed it in the right-of-center camp over the past century — this standard needs to apply to liars from either party. It’s just a realization that, as Daniel Patrick Moynihan famously said, in a thriving democracy, everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but not their own facts. Our national reset starts there.
IMO there needs to be (proportional) repurcussions for all those that have or continue to contribute or support this insurrection.
An apology or hold-blameless statement will be issued, and these fuckers will want to be let off the hook if we let them. Fuck that. And if that is divisive to you, fuck you too.
Meanwhile, the head of the Seattle police union says that BLM is partly to blame for the insurrection at the capitol on Wednesday.
Another example showing how deep the trump conspiracist sickness has infected our society.
I don’t agree with everything he says, but I do like him a lot. I hope I don’t live to regret that.
I hope so. It’s well deserved, there is NO fucking reason to object to Biden’s win except self serving grandstanding. And I don’t want grandstanding done with my country’s most hallowed foundations.
I’m surprised just to hear it suggested.
It is great to hear though. Hit 'em where it hurts.
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The wallet, always the most damaging to politicians. I’m all for it.
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Trump never sustained an approval rating above 45%. His approval numbers were typically high 30s or low 40s. Why is it so hard for some people to understand that he lost the election?
America has spent billions of dollars and countless lives were lost, trying to promote democracy around the world. But now one party claims that our elections are “rigged” even though the president’s own Attorney General said there was no evidence of significant fraud (you can occasionally find a handful of individual bogus votes in any election - Bush’s committee on election fraud uncovered about 1000 cases over a 10 year period if I recall, not enough to change the results of any election).
I’ve heard people like Mark Levin compare the capitol invasion to BLM protests (or call them riots if you want, either way). There is no comparison between sacking a Walgreens or Best Buy, and sacking the United States Capitol building. Great “dry run” for somebody to plan a future attack though, now that you’ve revealed weaknesses in the security of the capitol. Huge “self own” for America, great job guys.
Anybody who supports the capitol breach is not a conservative, they’re a lunatic.
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[quote=“K2000, post:617, topic:270726, full:true”]Great “dry run” for somebody to plan a future attack though, now that you’ve revealed weaknesses in the security of the capitol. Huge “self own” for America, great job guys.
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I was thinking about this aspect of it. There’s got to be some foreign terrorists saying to themselves right now “it’s that easy?!?”
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Yes. The real revolution. I’m all for it.
I remember Rush Limbaugh saying years and years ago that “conservatives vote with their wallets.” Used to, maybe. Now they vote with blind emotional devotion to cult-like figures, and agains their actual self-interest (speaking of the masses here, not do-anything-say-anythings like Cruz).
I’d like to get back to all of us voting with our…well, votes…and our wallets. I would like to remove the wallet-votes of massive corporations, but that’s probably a pipe dream for the moment.
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Awww, how sad. Looks like the company might go out of business. /S
Looks like the free market is a bitch.
Deadline is not a preferred source for me but just the first one that came up
Apple and Android own basically 100% of the market. Not exactly a free market anymore.
It wouldn’t matter, have a look through the link I posted. The website was so lacking in security that it’s been hacked to death.
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I guess the GOP will suddenly change their stance on net neutrality…
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One is still free to post whatever racist, antisemitic, violent, hateful, etc., rhetoric he wants on the internet. On this forum you can find homophobic, misogynistic, racist and antisemitic posts. You most certainly can find plenty of places to post genuine political commentary from all sides of the political spectrum. The NYT is online. The WSJ is online. CNN is online. Fox is online. Scientology is online. Alex Jones is online.
Parler’s mistake was investing in Trump. Trump, or more specifically his dumb sons, advertised Parler as a place where Trump cultists should turn to if they want to hear Trump’s message. So people looked into Parler and saw the rampant racism and antisemitism (6mwne? I didn’t know what that was until Parler) as well as the violent rhetoric. If Amazon, Google, Apple, etc., don’t want to be associated with a social media site where Trump is going to incite the extremists then that’s their right.
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Sure you can look at anti-trust lawsuits and think about breaking some of that up. But it’s not just the app stores - Parler wouldn’t be the first app to not appear in the stores, there have been others independently distributed from company websites.
Their lawyers bailed on them, their email provider bailed, their in-house text messaging service bailed, and it looks like no alternate, independent web hosting companies (yes they do exist) want to deal with them either.
That’s the free market talking.
Besides which, after Apple and Google gave them an ultimatum to implement a moderation policy just days ago, the CEO basically gave them all the finger and said "we won’t cave to politically motivated companies and those authoritarians who hate free speech!”
Well, looks like he got his wish. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. He gave everyone the finger and everyone said ‘fine, we’re bailing’. And now he’s whining about it. It’s his own fault in every way.
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It seems that people don’t know that TOS’s exist and how they work. They also don’t understand freedom of speech and that it applies to the internet as well. Meaning, if you went out in public and said we should kill the VP, don’t be surprised if you get a visit from the secret service or FBI. The same applies to the internet. You don’t get a free pass because it’s online. This isn’t about political positions or even conspiracy theories; it’s about speech that may very well be illegal at times.
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