Later…
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This should free him up lots of time for future terrorism!
Sometimes losing a job is a real blessing in disguise.
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He was the head of HR, that’s punishment enough.
Defund human resources! (maybe it will catch on?)
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Here’s something I don’t understand. You had the two lawyers in nyc who recorded themselves throwing Molotov cocktails and have since been arrested. You have this guy who is a lawyer committing a federal offense.
When you see less educated people documenting their felonious behavior you can say they are young and stupid but these people know the law.
Are millennials and gen z, the generations who have grown up with social media, ignorant of how it works? Do they think that if they record it that somehow it doesn’t count in the real world? Have they been raised in a world where there are no consequences?
Was that their plan? They’re ignorant enough to believe they could do that unarmed? If that was the plan, there’d be a lot more dead on all sides.
This to me is where the difference lies. And the significance of this cannot be overstated.
Yes, I view all the people in both BLM and yesterday’s riots as either manipulated (low info/intelligence/whatever), or malicious (benefiting from the scam, movement, whatever).
No, neither group was going to change anything through their actions. That’s not the point in either situation anyway.
The reasons yesterday was much more significant is that it was a) an attack on our capitol building and on Congress,
b) showed how fragile our democracy is to a demagogue
c) showed how little our leaders paid attention or cared until it was literally upon their chamber doors
d) showed how widespread low information and misinformed people are and also how effective misinformation can be in our country to bad state actors
e) showed all of this to the whole globe in a way the BLM riots never could have, even though they made international news.
Basically, the problems issues and rifts this exposed are more fundamental to continued democracy and more useful for our adversaries. It’s the effects that are more significant, not the mob itself.
The top of the movement is different and that makes the entire thing more significant even though the people manipulated or profiting at the bottom are no different.
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Dude. One of them was wearing a hat with bison horns.
Edit: I don’t mean he was armed with horns but that they were that ignorant.
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They’re ignorant enough to believe all sorts of fanciful conspiracy theories and falsehoods dear leader and his mouthpieces preach. They’ve been told their special, their cause is just, and they just need to fight bedide the president himself. Why do you expect them to not be ignorant now?
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Yes. Also, this:
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Repeated for emphasis.
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And he’s an actor. You could be right. They may just have had no idea how to do violence.
It’s also tactically idiotic if you have any intention of ever going any further.
Of course, we’re taught that the Boston Tea Party was a great, patriotic event… Debunking Boston Tea Party Myths
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Civil rights marches, sit-ins, and rallys? Did they accomplish anything? Civil disobedience and protests surrounding the vietnam war? Of course they did.
Protests are a tool to show how much support a cause has, and convey how constituents are feeling to their leadership. People want to belong to something and protests are a great way to get people who were closet supporters of a cause to come out and be vocal about their support, which begets more people being vocal and publicly supporting a cause which begets action by their representatives.
Policy happens because of public support or opposition… protests are a easy way to peacefully show support of a cause and influence your political representatives.
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https://www.fox13now.com/news/national-news/report-us-capitol-police-officer-dies-following-riots
A rioter hit the officer in the head with a fire extinguisher is the story i’ve seen. Numerous other cops in the hospital with serious injuries.
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I would really like to repeat this and frame it. I’ve been saying the same thing about precedent for a while now. The truth is it doesn’t even need to be accepted NOW… because sooner or later enough time will have passed that the heat subsides a bit and the next person that wants to can point back and say “I’ll do it better”. And willfully blind people (in govt and out) will follow them again.
This is one reason I have been upset at simple things like congressional norms being broken.
I don’t think we should downplay them at ALL. That’s how we got here in the first place - yeah he’s bad but we can keep him in check… Yeah he’s bad but I don’t want to risk my election because he’s got a big Twitter following… Yeah he’s bad but I like his policies (said everyone about a populist thru history)… Yeah he’s bad but when he loses he’ll come to his senses… His advisors will be able to come to his senses… He’s only got a month left in office, how much harm can he do… All enabled.
This isn’t about whether the simple mob itself was a threat to democracy in the immediate incident (it wasn’t), or whether a lunatic could kill people (tragic and sad, but not existential for the country).
I respect your posting quite a lot, but don’t agree in the slightest. This should be extremely high on your list - not because of what it was in bare physical terms but because of what it represents. Both in terms of manipulation of a wide cross section of people and in terms of very powerful people putting themselves before country. And for that matter, the ease and complacency with which many played along with him.
What is the next Donald Trump is an antifa supporter? What if the next Trump is a communist? What if the next Trump is smarter?
I said above this wasn’t a party issue or a left right issue for me… This is more important. It shouldn’t matter which side you’re on the next possibility should scare the crap out of you. Whether it comes in 5 years or 15 years or 75 years. It shouldn’t matter what brand of ideology the next one sports. I don’t want anyone with this precedent or playbook.
This damages our geopolitics, damages our allies indirectly, and hands our adversaries loads of propaganda for the next couple decades.
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Don’t get @Legalsteel going. He’ll be throwing 1814 around…
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No, Andy Ngo is not one of my favorites. I only hear about him anytime he gets bashed by Antifa. I don’t know, maybe he Ngo’s what he talking about. He’s gay, POC but his against the crazy jokers, so he can’t be all bad.
Try: stroke.
https://twitter.com/NPR/status/1347344817903316993
Pretty sure they dont open murder cases for strokes. Dumbass.