Ultimately no, despite what a hippie retread high school history teacher might tell you.
Horseshit. I equate it to “cause walks.” Does breast cancer get defeated by grouping up with pink shirts and walking around? No, the donations for research are what matter. The rest is to make people feel good and belong but that changes nothing.
Policy happens because of votes. Gaining power or fear of losing it. Look at Joe Manchin.
Protesting accomplishes nothing.
Oh really. What does it say?
Imo it depends on how the question was phrased vs reported. If more people think there were serious irregularities in the election but still believe the election is accurate and/or that Trump should leave, that’s less serious than the alternative.
This is why I hate polls.
Well, goodbye to that sweet career.
Also, I think this gives the lie to “nobody upper middle class gets involved with street politics”. Many upper middle class might be tempted to play vigilante or rioter when bored. And they have the bankroll to travel.
Also as loppar has pointed out many people in past insurrections (both successful and not) were middle upper class for various reasons.
Yep. Stupid people win stupid prizes.
I have never in my life found anything that hints at an answer to this. It may be more of a mystery than cold fusion.
I agree in part. If I thought it had any legs at all, I would be very concerned. I don’t think the next guy will get away with it either. Trump and his supporters tried their darndest, and didn’t have a chance. It wasn’t lack of trying, and democracy prevailed.
More recently, that he hasn’t actually died yet: UPDATE: U.S. Capitol Police officer dies after being injured during riot
Thing about precedent is that it doesn’t need to be in action any time soon. It can sit around for decades before being referred to. I just don’t like it. And Trump was not the smartest authoritarian wannabe. A more cunning one could possibly have succeeded in certain ways.
Im sure some of those parasites blended in
Just like minorities believing the utter bullshit their “dear leaders” preach about being hunted down by rAcIsT cops ?
Zero basis in reality and given violent crime disparities… White people have a much more legitimate reason to carry signs saying WLM. But I digress.
It would seem Kamabala said almost exactly that: Fact check: Kamala Harris said protests aren't going to stop
The lady with the shiny dome did: https://www.blackenterprise.com/rep-ayanna-pressley-calls-for-unrest-in-the-streets-over-the-failures-of-the-trump-administration/
Maxine did: Maxine Waters encourages supporters to harass Trump administration officials | CNN Politics
Doesn’t even look like the same guy—the one on the right is wearing a Trump cap!
To those saying the protestors (read: rioters) were unarmed, how does that explain the firearms-related arrests and pipe bombs found?
So that’s like a monkeys paw kind of effect.
Looks like they don’t like when they aren’t leading the charge.
Yep. I don’t believe I’ve downplayed Trump in the slightest but even I thought after the election people would move on. I didn’t anticipate so many people buying into election fuckery with no evidence. I didn’t anticipate people thinking it was stolen when courts all across the nation dismissed the claims. I didn’t anticipate people thinking they had to “fight” for Trump because he’s sad he’s a failed one term President. I didn’t them anticipate thinking that election results in races they won in “fraudulent” states would be seen as of course and the fix was solely in on the presidential and not congressional elections. I didn’t anticipate people saying stuff like ballots came in through Maine from North Korea and not being laughed out of existence. But like you said it’s been building through his presidency.
Really the last thing we should be doing is comparing this to anything else (which is all most people are doing bringing up BLM and everything else). This has been a months long direct attack on our election process. On our judicial system. On transfer of power after an election. And it started months before we even had an election. Those are the things that need to be in focus. Everything else (IMO) is a distraction or attempt to blame the other side for previous sins.
Make no mistake about it this sets the stage for something similar to happen again on the right or on the left. I consider myself left leaning but I am just as in fear of them doing something similar as the right. We need to do a lot of work as a country to examine this specific moment, what led up to it, and how to prevent it in the future. That should be the goal of both sides now. It should be one of the rare things we all agree on.
This is actually a key point. The minority rioters and looters at BLM marches were bad actors and they knew it. They were also more effective at creating criminal damage and injury.
The Capitol Hill rioters appeared to be mostly the kind of people you would expect to be law abiding citizens, who genuinely, misguidedly, believe they were “saving America”. Their PRESIDENT, of the USA, told them he needed them to help him save the USA from having an election result stolen. So, I suppose they actually believe that the law, ultimately, will support them. The minority rioters and looters on BLM marches did not believe this.
Remember McCain’s response to birthers?
Now we have a bunch of enablers feeding those on the margins.
Even Dan Crenshaw, who you would think would be a sensible man, is guilty. He condemns the rioters while also saying we need election reform (implying that there was fraud). That’s playing both sides. I know he’s a veteran and sacrificed a lot for this nation but once you become a politician it’s like you inevitably sell your soul.
I agree with Crenshaw.
I in no way think the election was stolen and I think what happened is absolutely shameful and treasonous, but I don’t think that more transparency in the election process would be a bad thing. In fact, I think it could have prevented a lot of this nonsense.