Trump: 2020 and Beyond

Does it take food out of your children’s mouths?

Mitch McConnell?

If I read your post correctly, your point is: the other side is worse!

I really do not think so. Perhaps the Dems are capable of such unethical grasping at power, but until they’ve actually gone as far as Trump’s GOP has, that’s really just a counterfactual.

I think you are comparing different things. To use a sport analogy: one side is playing the game in a manner you don’t like. The other is doing its best to bend, break, and change the actual rules. One of these is more damaging than the other, it seems to me.

Trump is doing everything talk radio and Fox claimed Obama was doing/going to do. And worse.

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Yep. Also, what we saw in November was a repudiation of Trump, not the Republican party in general which is why Republicans did so well down ballot. Since then too many Republicans have dug in their heels in support of Trump. They’ve failed to acknowledge the obvious election result, failed to acknowledge Biden as the President Elect, and vowed to challenge the electoral college vote. In addition to this, Trump has continued to become more and more unhinged from realty. I think this has both motivated Democrats in Georgia to vote in the runoffs and flipped some independents and reasonable Republicans who have had it with the nonsense.

If Trump had accepted the election results, conceded, and acted like all the other previous lame duck Presidents, I bet the R’s would have won in Georgia yesterday. But, like in all other matters Trump has put himself in front of the needs of the Republican party and the country.

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There’s no money in that.

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How does this address my statement?

You come on here and write tomes about the failure of liberalism in poor communities. Do you think these coffee house musings that will soon be laws, will benefit you feeding your children?

True

Not everything has to benefit me. It’s called community.

That’s exactly what l believe.

Trump was held relatively in check, liberals won’t have a single constraint in either the legislative or executive branches. All Dem heavyweights have proclaimed ‘mandate’ with the slimmest of margin.

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Appears Pence is the scape goat? An odd move.

wat?

IIRC, the GoP called Trump’s win a mandate after losing the popular vote.

The whole mandate by the people thing is BS, but I don’t think either side will stop doing this when they win.

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Anyone watching the trump rally it’s a masterpiece.

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The second that man strutted down those stairsteps declaring his Candidacy for President…bolstered mostly by his support of Birtherism…and many began to shout “Yes, yes, YES!!!”. The dye had been cast.

It is the very definition of the Faustian Bargain…

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lolz.

I had to google this. First image was…

Compared to Republicans? About 1000 times more currently. Only one side has attacked democracy relentlessly through the election and continues to do so. And the reason is because they didn’t win and they are beholden to a crybaby who can’t accept a loss.

I don’t mind hating on Democratic policies if that’s what we want to talk about. But if you’re talking about democracy do you really feel it’s under attack from Dems right now in comparison to the GOP?

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Are you implying that a person cannot be religious and be pro choice or pro-LGBTQ rights?

Do you honestly believe that a cornerstone of the democratic policy agenda for the next 4 years is gender ambiguity? Not the economy, healthcare, foreign policy, racial equality, green energy, environmental policy, trade, or numerous other issues? Or are LGBTQ issues just one of the most important issues to you? And if they are, damn you live an easy life.

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I’ll ask it again, what am I supposed to think of people who continue to support trump and what he is doing?

Nobody. Certainly not me. The clash of cultures is real to be sure. But so is a complete and utterly transparent attempt at undermining of our most basic cultural institutions.

The culture clash has been going on for at least 35+ years. The impact of the trash that Trump is broadcasting about the election and his transparent attempt to manipulate and bully people, departments, governors, and anyone else to keep him in power is new and in my opinion more dangerous.

It’s more dangerous because the deleterious effects of these actions will bear fruit more rapidly than the long term clash between different cultural ideologies. In other words I think they act on different timescales.

Same retort could be said in response to Trump’s complete BS, so I don’t really think this reply is a good one.

I don’t think this is a “side”. That implies that the GOP as a party sanctions this and/or is using this as an active strategy. It is not. This is Trump and some equally self centered coattail hangers trying to get in on his populist base.

Now it looks like a tinder box.

Yep. Exactly. First they were quiet because they thought he’d just go away (since when has the Donald ever just gone away??), then… They took leave of their senses IMO.

No doubt. Georgia turned blue on the dissatisfaction with Trump. They would not have elected 2 blue senators without 2 months of extra boost from Trump repeatedly shooting his mouth off.

But then Trump was never a republican so he doesn’t care about the party anyway. And obviously clearly ignorant as to how our government works.

True, and Trump himself is the one to blame for that result. If you wanted a red Senate, someone should have gagged Trump and taken away his Twitter account.

Or at least the party could collectively have grown a spine and told him to shut up and accept the result after it became clear.

Policy wise he’s not wrong. Behavior wise obviously not true.