TRT + Tren Ace Newbie

All 3 work differently/do different jobs. You do not need glutathione. I wouldn’t use it. Definitely do NOT use all 3. Overdoing it is not good, more is not better here.

Understood. Dos Glutathione replace the need for the NAC/Tudca? I already have two prescribed bottles of Glutathione. I went ahead and got enough NAC/Tudca for a 10 week low dosage Tren cycle, just to be safe. But I’ll save them if running the Glutathione by itself will do the trick.

Tudca will do you no harm if you take it but it is not a must. That why I said “for piece of mind” in my first post. You can do your glutathione, it will do the trick. Just don’t do NAC with it.

800mg prescription per week…. how?

what about low dose tren, im currently running 100mg tren e and i have 0 sides compared to when i run ace at 300mg. even my blood pressure is normal on this.

run some mounjaro or if you can get hold of it reta. track on MFP and just keep P and C up.

But you are having sides within your cardiovascular system. If you’re not prepping for a show I wouldn’t run it. It worth it.

If you want to continue discussion start a new thread and tag me. I’d like this guys thread to go away. He has no business doing anything but a TRT dose of test.

Wait a minute. First you highlight the risk to your cardiovascular system, and for that reason, you advise against it. Then, you immediately condone it IF you’re going on stage? So, then it’s ok. Then I have business doing it?

I don’t recall you saying you’re gonna compete.
Honestly you really don’t seem to have a handle on running a cycle properly.
Again tren is an advanced drug for advanced users and guys on prep. I don’t think you are either.

All medications should be taken with a risk:benefit analysis in mind. Is the benefit worth the risk?

It is your life. There are many decisions that you make every day. IMO, do a risk:benefit analysis when you are aware that a risk exists for a decision you are about to make.

You do what you want. If you are a man, you will accept the outcome of your bad decisions. Own all of them. Don’t cry about the harvest of the seeds you planted in life.

I’d like to see a pic that best displays your physique.

Regardless, I wish you the best.

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You didn’t answer my question. You condone the use if you’re competing. If someone isn’t competing, then don’t do it because it’s awful on your cardiovascular system. So, you either condone it or you don’t? I don’t think you should be giving any advice on this forum anymore. You’re inconsistent, and it appears as though you don’t know what you’re talking about.

I’ve said over and over that tren should be reserved for competitors prepping for a show.
I’m not inconsistent it’s my belief. Taking gear is risk vs reward. There is a real risk to using tren. I know it first hand.
My ADVICE to you is that I would not be using it in your situation as I don’t think you have the experience or the need. You can take it or leave it. If you decided that you need to use it I would help you do what you want to do but I would never lead with that.
My main concern is your health and making sure you know the risks. I’m sorry if you think otherwise. I will stay off your thread. Good luck to you.

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My guy…. Where do I start? First, you came here for advice but you’re clearly dead set on using it. So why the fuck do you care if he condones it or not and why did you ask in the first place? You’re 43 acting like one of the teenagers on here hardheaded on using gear that’s too advanced for you safely. You didn’t even know how doses are measured but you want to jump into Tren use. Sheesh. The good news, you can do what you want my man.

YOLO, pin it every day and keep the dose reasonable. If you can figure that out… ya know math.

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I was about to say 800mg is not TRT it’s a straight up cycle.

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A very helpful response! You are truly an asset to this forum. Please, however, dial down your toughness. You’re scaring the children and triggering my anxiety. I may have to call off work tomorrow.

You don’t think behaving like a child begets treatment as such? Wait don’t answer because there’s literally nobody here that cares what you think. Subpar intelligence check. Lack of social skills check.

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You have in no way enriched this thread, and I presume to include this forum. Please stop responding.

You’ve been here 5 minutes. Do you often walk into a gym, club or other place where members have a rapport, ask for help and then pretend you run the place?

I’ll do as I please. Don’t like it? See your way out.

Illuminating. You’re a true treasure, here.

As usual, I agree wholeheartedly with @blshaw & @s.gentz regarding taking Tren. This is a very, very powerful drug and it falls squarely in the category of HIGH RISK / HIGH REWARD…however, I think the depths of the risks outweigh the reward many times over. Side effects from Tren: Tren cough while injecting (it is a horrible feeling, scary too as you feel that you can’t breathe. Not everyone gets it, but if you do, it won’t make you excited to take the shots everyday), bad insomnia, night sweats that also have a strong chemical smell, your bloodwork will get seriously messed up…..lipids, cholesterol, your kidney and liver enzymes will become very elevated and bad, and it can cause actual damage to the heart muscle itself (btw, the clen you mention does this as well).

If you have even the slightest genetic propensity for baldness, Tren will cause that process to go into overdrive and you will find head hairs everywhere as it comes off your head rapidly, and last but certainly not least….Tren WILL affect your emotions, BIG TIME! Tren will cause even the most laid back, Type B person (I fall into this category) to become very short tempered, irritable, snappy, and it will greatly increase your aggression. Now, the good part is the aggression is what will help someone who is competing and dieting for a show to still workout with high intensity, and the Tren will help you hold onto a lot of your off season strength gains while dieting (you will still lose a bit, but not a large amount of strength like you would if just dieting without Tren). BUT the problem is that aggression, irritability, etc is with you 24/7, so outside of the gym Tren will cause you problems in your personal relationships with your spouse/family, your job, and random people out on the street. I know it turned me into a real asshole, and I had people close to me tell me that I was not acting like myself, that I had become snappy and mean, etc. The thing is, oftentimes you don’t even realize you are acting this way.

LSS, it is just NOT worth it for the average gym rat looking to get stronger, diet off bodyfat, or put on muscle. There are much better drugs you can take to add size that will not have such a bevy of side effects. There are also many other drugs, supplements, and workout options to help you shed bodyfat. It’s not worth the potential damage to your heart, liver, kidneys and it’s not worth you becoming an asshole and creating a hurricane of destruction in your social interactions.

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