Currently on 160mg Test Cypionate (80mg twice a week) for TRT. Nandrolone was brought to my attention as a low-dose addition that could be added for joint relief. I was sporting the idea of 30mg once weekly as an experiment to see if I can get improvement in quality of life. I also noted people experience improved sleep from Nandrolone as well. Getting restorative sleep has been a challenge for me and I would be happy to experience this benefit.
What I am seeking is personal experiences running around 30mg/week. Also feedback on whether I should dial down TRT to compensate for the added Nandrolone or am I good to continue running the 160mg Test Cypionate along with the 30mg of Nandrolone.
Just an FYI, nandrolone only masks underlying issues. It does not fix injury or promote healing.
As far as the sleeping help I have never heard that.
If you are going off what the clinic is telling you, you need to understand they are a business trying to sell you products.
This is just my 2c.
Im 53 , i use 180mg test cypionate,and 60mg of nandrolone, i do 2 injections with the test of 90mg and nandrolone just once a week of 60mg. I use it for joint pain and i have arthritis in my shoulder.also knee pain from a torn ligament when i was younger.Best thing i ever did,i sleep without pain and can train hard.
Good look with your heart health. Nandrolone is not something to use long term. If you’re aware of this and willing to sacrifice cardiac health for well being now… that’s a personal choice.
From what I’ve read, I have also heard that nandrolone is super toxic on the heart. So I wouldn’t think it would be a good choice to be on long term.
You’re correct. The only true therapeutic use is wasting diseases where the patient is more likely to die from that than worrying about LVH or their cardiac issues.
Thats why you have regular blood tests, american clinics have been usig this for years, at a higher dose than mine, with no problems with heart. Lets not forget ,if you rely on pain killers because of arthritis and joint pain, they are just as bad if not worse. My blood tests always come back good. So i have no problems using it.
Its our choice, and its about quality of life, no point in living till 90years old if i cant move.
Seriously man… if you think this will help you then you’re lost. If you’re getting a CAC, echo and stress test done on the regular sure. Blood work, nope.
I appreciate all the thoughtful feedback. Symptom masking is what I’m after. I have an extruded and a herniated disc in my lower back. I have also had two knee surgeries I still feel day-to-day. Just looking for alternatives to anti-inflammatories. Long term use of those have consequences as well. Since I’m already on TRT, Nandrolone seemed like a potential option worth study.
Heart risks increase I’d imagine as dose increases in a linear relationship. Am I still prone to significant risk to a small dose? Just looking for something that offers relief without relying on pain meds. Risk-benefit weighing really.
It’s a crap shoot. I’m betting most guys in here will say “not” but I’m more conservative. Your risk to try it for a couple months is likely so low it’s not even worrying about. It’s just the long term concern even in low doses of permanent use.
Another disclaimer… I hate the stuff. I took it knowing the risks as I’ve used PED levels before. Even in low doses Nandrolone gave me ED, anxiety and other mental sides. Keep in mind I’m only educating. Taking it is your call and a personal choice. I’ve taken much worse but knew the risks and was willing to pay.
Ironically I always feared Tren becuase of the mental sides I got from Nandrolone. Tren Ace was the last thing I tried before quitting and to me it was much friendlier mentally, but the night sweats sucked. It was also the only thing toward the end of my PED path that seemed to move the needle physique wise.
Man, I got me some sides. Definitely a shorter fuse and some night sweats but it was tolerable. I only did 6 weeks of Ace at 200mg but it was effective as hell. Glad you found what works for you. It’s probably a necessary part of the arsenal for a stage competitor.
If I’m understanding correctly, then risk is related to how long you are on and not the dose itself. @blshaw Just verifying my understanding.
I’ll give it a two month run and see I how feel. The long term use and corresponding risks are cause for concern. I want quality of life and longevity to have a linear relationship and not an inverse.
What else is potentially out there that can give symptom relief, while minimizing the underlying risk? I love all the benefits I’ve experienced from TRT. I’m opposed to pain pills, docs are so quick to just prescribe them. They don’t improve quality of life but actually act to its respective detriment over time.
Maybe some peptides. Bpc 157 etc. Yea no point taking a hardcore steroid like nandrolone and taking the risks just for joint pain relief. Like others have said you will just emd up needing it for ever and feeling like crap when you arent using it.
I appreciate the feedback and the invitation to try BPC157. Life is an interesting journey. You either accept your circumstances or seek ways to improve it. Most never discover TRT to address hypogonadism, whether due to age or not. TRT makes getting old over time much more graceful than without. If I can address pain without use of inflammatories, then I’ll be all set!
Let me understand. You would rather take nandrolone which has no actual benefit to inflammation but has potential for negative mental sides and bloodwork over getting a cortisone shot to actually reduce inflammation?
No, just seeking a way to address pain without anti-inflammatories as a generalization. Nandrolone was only a possibility to explore, not necessarily the solution. My primary goal is the avoidance of anti-inflammatories, not hopping on Nandrolone. I want to seek out the best solution that carries the lowest relative risk.
Sorry if I was giving off the wrong message. I was trying to state that with TRT helping so much with my quality of life, all I have left to address is day-to-day pain then life will be great! Just exploring options to help with that goal.
As @Mmalift mentioned, trying peptides (BPC-157 would be my first option) first would be lower risk, and may actually improve your joints. It doesn’t always work, but it seems to have a pretty good record.
Another issue with Nandralone you should consider is that it might indirectly make your joints worse long term. By masking the pain, you may end up pushing harder with training and make your joints worse.