That’s a solid point. Overcompensating just because you don’t ‘feel it’ doesn’t mean you’re not causing further injury that will be felt when you come off.
Is oral BPC-157 pretty solid? Or would I want to go with injectable?
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IDK to be honest. Anecdotally, I’ve heard the injectable version works better.
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Oral is more for it’s antiulcer effect, colitis, Crohn’s etc. For joint/tendon pain, injectable would be the preferred method. Some say it’s systemic, others that it works best if you inject near the site where it hurts. I am personally of the opinion that it has a systemic effect.
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I’ve also heard systemic but if I’m injecting it anyway may as well get it close.
I also almost never run it without tb500. They work amazing together.
Typically any niggle I get which causes me to use them is resolved within 2 weeks or so.
I always keep both on hand.
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Im interested with the fear related to nandrolone, yes your correct is masks the injury of arthritis and joint problems, but, these sort of problems will not get any better anyway. Its about quality of life when your in your 50’s, and being able to walk and train and sleep as normal.
There has been no evidence to suggest, on a low dose of nandrolone to have any effect on the heart. My clinic told me that.nandrolone like a lot of steroids are given a bad rap because bodybuilders abuse the amounts.that of course is always reported.
Lets not forget steriods are used on burn victims in children ,with no ill effects. Only abuse of steriods and any other medication for that matter creates problems.
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Not for a prolonged period of time and certainly not for life. In this specific case the benefits significantly outweigh the risks.
There has been a bunch of posts on this forum by the likes of @readalot that outline the negative effects of nandrolone on the heart. Just google “nandrolone, left ventricular hypertrophy”.
Since you are mentioning high and low doses, what exactly constitutes a low or high dose? What are the guidelines for this?
Again, it all comes down to how much risk you are prepared to accept for pain relief.
You might as well try 100mg/wk for 3-4 months to see if you get any pain relief. If not, quit. If you do find relief, what then? Are you going to be on nandrolone for life? That will definitely shave a couple years off your life, no matter how small a dose.
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You’re giving a clearly uneducated opinion based solely on what your clinic “told you”. A clinic that makes money off of selling you a drug. Lets be honest, you thought bloodwork was sufficient to detect heart disease. Really?
There’s plenty of research, a lot in rodent models, that show the deleterious effects. I’m ok with anybody rolling the dice, risk could be minimal and reward may be worth it. However, one must be educated with all aspects to make that decision.
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I hope this was not a serious comment. I would love to hear where you came up with this.
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The idea of adding deca to TRT to help with arthritis and joint pain (in low dose) is of interest to me, too. I just started 75mg/week on top of TRT.
I found these videos (and this guy’s channel in general) very interesting:
and a follow-up:
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My take… google and read the studies yourself. From your own opinions. Many of these guys are cherry picking and providing information with bias.
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