Tricep Trouble w/ Compound Movements

hey guys im not sure how many other people have delt with this but weve all heard that tricep pushdowns should really only be used for a finisher. My question is what do you do when you can never feel your tricep or any compound movements.

Any close grip becnh variation does nto work for me in the case that I never can get my triceps to work hard enough, it always pull smy chest in. Skullcrushers kill my elbows.

I mean the only excersises that I feel really hits my triceps is french press variations and pushdowns. Also dips hurt my clavicle and upper chest alot and also draw in my chest alot. So with those two things to use, how bad would it be to include 2 pushdowns in a tricep day or does anyone else hav any ideas

First thing that comes to mind is that your form may not be as strict as it should be.

If you have a spotter, get them to make sure your form is very strict and that alone should provide focussed stimulation of the triceps.

When doing lying tricep extensions, don’t bring your arms straight up in line with your head, leave them angled backwards so the tension on your tri’s remains constant and they don’t get a rest at the top of the movement.

There’s another good one for the long head which i think is great, if I can find the link, I’ll put it up for you. I’ve been using it and the results are very good to thoroughly work the long head.

cheers

heavy fucking weighted dips ~

[quote]Duke wrote:
First thing that comes to mind is that your form may not be as strict as it should be.

If you have a spotter, get them to make sure your form is very strict and that alone should provide focussed stimulation of the triceps.

When doing lying tricep extensions, don’t bring your arms straight up in line with your head, leave them angled backwards so the tension on your tri’s remains constant and they don’t get a rest at the top of the movement.

There’s another good one for the long head which i think is great, if I can find the link, I’ll put it up for you. I’ve been using it and the results are very good to thoroughly work the long head.

cheers
[/quote]

ight man thanks alot anything will help

add chains to your CGBP.

[quote]zephead4747 wrote:
add chains to your CGBP.[/quote]

I have no chains in the gym or at home so thats not going to happen

i also want to add that i have no spotter so i dont really like to bench without one. I also train with low sets using lots of drop sets and rest pause

Found the link mate, read it carefully and give it a try.

www.larryscott.com/bio/newsletter/97summer_2.cfm

Good luck, I like it a lot!

You can do pushdowns first and then CGBP or dips afterward. This is what I do. It pre-fatigues teh triceps and allows you to feel it more there instead of your chest.

[quote]Duke wrote:
Found the link mate, read it carefully and give it a try.

www.larryscott.com/bio/newsletter/97summer_2.cfm

Good luck, I like it a lot![/quote]

You beat me to it.

Also try PJR pullovers (2 different versions available) and do your presses in a rack or smith machine so that you can press towards your feet (against the smith/rack)…

As for the PJR’s: You won’t feel that much during the exercise, but the days after…

These are the the tricep exercises I like the most

Incline/Decline close grip tricep extensions
Standing Single DB extensions
Tate Press
Reverse Grip French Presses

when putting pushdowns into a program I like using them either as pre fatigue or supersetting them with a compound like JM presses or close grip bench

in close grip benches, try to “pull” the bar apart as you lift. i find thats the ONLY way to activate my triceps in that movement.

for dips, i find that keeping my legs straight and not crossing them helps in keeping me more vertical and activating my triceps more. also, in regards to dips, i find that the first 1/4 of the movement hits the tris. the deeper i go, the more chest involvement, regardless of how vertical i am.

and one more tip for dips…try to “push” the bars further away from each other.

hope this helps :slight_smile:

[quote]Duke wrote:
Found the link mate, read it carefully and give it a try.

www.larryscott.com/bio/newsletter/97summer_2.cfm

Good luck, I like it a lot![/quote]

o man thanks alot will do

wouldnt that excersises by larry scott be the samet thing as a cable french press if you put the hands high enough

[quote]crod266 wrote:
wouldnt that excersises by larry scott be the samet thing as a cable french press if you put the hands high enough[/quote]

Assume he knows what he’s talking about mate and give them a try. Always good to work things from different angles and so forth.

[quote]Duke wrote:
crod266 wrote:
wouldnt that excersises by larry scott be the samet thing as a cable french press if you put the hands high enough

Assume he knows what he’s talking about mate and give them a try. Always good to work things from different angles and so forth.[/quote]

This is true

dips used to cause be pain as well around my shoulder area, I stuck at them and got stronger and i am fine now.

Try dumbell tri extensions. Sit on an incline bench or backwards on a preacher bench with a heavy dumbell.

Stay upright on those dips to get tri more involved.