I lost a lot of my gains in the time I quit gear, especially because 1 year of that I drank a lot (I do DJ’ing) So its often hard to decline drinks, also had some other life issues (relationship etc) that time and lost my dedication to the gym, this went on for a long time and lost a lot of mass, lost nearly all my gains I worked so hard for those times, now I’m not drinking at all, and trying to get fit again,
I’m feeling the same, if I just fkn kept going to the gym those times and at least did SOMETHING and kept eat properly, I might’ve retained at least half my size.
Now I had to start all over again, which is why I chose to blast first, less patient lol.
Yup… I think the absolute worst thing I did during that entire trip was try ketamine… but I was under the influence of alcohol at the time… incredibly moronic considering it’s a potentially lethal combination (can asphyxiate on you’re own vomit if you pass out)
Well I’ve heard you’re prior stories, what you’ve done. I don’t think I’ve partied as hard as you have. But it was well beyond my comfort zone, particularly the amount I was drinking (literally daily)
Oh yeah I know K, I’ve tried it a few times but perosnally hate the effect. Made me scared every single time I tried it lol, I dont like the hallucination and disorientation and stuff. Didn’t like K hole either.
Shit makes me scared as hell, you’ve mentioned you haven’t tried GHB, well that feeling I like, and for me is WAY less scary than K hehe.
Man it’s crazy to me how you did not do MDMA or GHB, but did Ketamine, that is like the one thing I always tell me friends to not do, i find that shit messed up as hell.
To me MDMA is wayyyy safer and more pleasant than Ketamine, there’s nothing about Ketamine that I like, I find it scary and messed up.
I got really angry when my girlfriend took it and passed out.
Well I enjoyed ketamine… a lot… but I don’t wish to talk about this as it’s behaviour I’m ashamed of. The sense of disassociation, minor hallucinations etc were amazing… I was in a club when it was given to me… I was given quite a lot, I had no idea about dosing etc… too the point where my arms and legs weren’t working properly nor could I speak properly… walking around outside I had no idea where I was… still super fun
Then a fight supposedly broke out right next to me… I don’t remember this occurring
I’m very ashamed.
What was even WORSE about this one night was I was on something else (hence why I had periodic episodes of… not remembering)… not going to say what it was, but this was ONE night… the really bad night that I’m particularly ashamed of
No, I haven’t tried MDMA nor do I have any plans to do so… I’m not interested in the hard partying life aside from extremely special occasions. Perhaps it’ll come up one day, but I’ll never try it without the compound having been tested, thus making it unlikely as I’m not shelling out the 10$ required for a test kit
I’ve looked at the pharmacokinetics of the drug, yes… despite societal stigmitisation it’s a hell of a lot safer than binge drinking/getting drunk… but I have no incentive to try it
I’ve experienced that, but I hated it, I felt scared and did not like it at all.
Maybe thats because I’m used to the pleasant and warm feeling of mdma.
Actually thats all you need, it’s relatively safe compared to all the other stuff, and feels the best of all of those as well, i’d say its the least dangerous as well.
dude “hard” ? MDMA is miles lighter than Ketamine, how the fuck is ketamine softer than MDMA, no way on earth.
Mdma is probably one of the safest of all, even more safe than alcohol on my opinion.
And it is not neccesary for “partying hard” it is very suitable for relaxing as well or just being with a friend at home.
I’m pretty sure it is the most safe of all of those “drugs” it rarely ever causes problems, public issues, or fatalities, worst thing that can happen is that you’re too nice to people and feel good. Doesn’t cause any harm compared to those other things, even alcohol causes more issues.
In this case you’re telling me the drug is highly reinforcing/that I’ll want to keep using after I try it once
with this in mind… no way
This shit doesn’t weigh in on my mind, it barely comes to thought. All my friends have used it, roughly over a third of Australians have used it (teenage demographic), doesn’t mean I need to try it. If I know for SURE it’s MDMA and I’m offered I’ll try it… if the occasion is special enough, but I’m not going out of my way for this stuff…
I dont know anyone who’s addicted to it, and you can’t be addicted to it. because it doesnt keep working even if you keep using it.
So its basically impossible, booze and weed are even more addicting than mdma.
If you use it, the next day it wont work anymore and you have to wait a week or 2.
I tried it for the first time when I was 18, then partied with friends every month for a while. then didnt use it for 7 years, nothing at all 0 drugs. Then a time period the one like you talked about, I partied again for a few months. Then again nothing for year. It is not addicting.
It is physically impossible to be addicted to MDMA, because after 1 Night it loses its effect. Even if you swallowed 5 pills or used a whole gram it wouldnt work anymore. It is not like other drugs that you can keep taking more of and keep getting effect.
MDMA tends to be laced with other potentially lethal contaminants. Statistically Australian MDMA is only 32% pure…
I’m aware of this, I was pulling your leg… though due to serotonin depletion/the prospect of serotonergic neurotoxicity and 5 ht2b mediated cardiotoxicity you should wait between 6-12 weeks between use
Furthermore MDMA induces a significant increase in heart rate/blood pressure, increased noradrenaline output increases body temp, predisposing one to lethal hyperthermia in the wrong environment if dosed too high
Lethal arrhythmia could occur in combination with electrolyte depletion in part due to dehydration. Serotonin syndrome has been known to occur in those absent of concurrent drug use… There are risks, they’re just very uncommon/not on par with alcohol
I’ve confided in a night I’m ashamed about that occurred 3 months ago, I don’t want to be told “no, take this”… I harbour no judgement against you, but you’re telling a 19 y/o kid to take drugs… Be it alcohol, anything… drug use shouldn’t be condoned
If I ever use MDMA it’ll be based upon my own stupid decision, not reccomendation. I have no plans to use it, though I’ve been temped during many of the 30+ times I’ve been offered it… I agree that if used sparingly it’s one of the safer compounds one can use… at least according to current scientific data available.
You said you’ve used Ketamine, which to me is a way worse and harder drug than MDMA, Mdma is like a damn orange juice compared to Ketamine.
To me Ketamine is as bad as Herion or Meth, really F* that shit, I find it scary and not safe at all.
All I’m saying is that it’s not as bad as some other things we talked about, but how would you know. You only read about stuff and don’t actually have live experienced with it.
I mean… ketamine is a very commonly used drug amongst those residing within Australia within the teenage demographic
You’re right, chronic abuse of ketamine is incredibly harmful… induces significant damage etc. It’s not on par with H though, but it is one of the more damaging substances one can take…
If you send me an email I will detail exactly what happened that night
The reason I hate Ketamine so much is because everytime I experienced friends who did it, or my girlfriend, something messed up happened.
I’ve seen my girlfriend use Ketamine 3 times, and every single time she passed out and I had to carry her to a bed, and I always got mad at her for taking other shit, I ended up having to baby sit every time, other friends I’ve seen become scared shitles, dizzy, and vomit for half an hour. a few friends love it and trip on it, but i’ve seen messed up things too much with that.
I’ve also tried it myself, several bad experiences, one “trip” as you would call it. And I do not find it worth taking at all, not even for that “trip/hallucinate” effect, why would anyone take that its beyond me, I dont get it.
With MDMA, I have never experienced an issue with someone ever, most people are very issue free and pleasant on it, usually no issues from that substance alone. When they start to take other stuff thats where things always go wrong.