Tren: "The Heaviest and Most Taxing on Your Body"

Fair enough, I don’t want to talk about this night anymore on here… its incredibly embarrassing, I showed no restraint… I’m all for a good time, even flat out intoxication on occasion… but not “having no idea where I am or what’s going on”… the fact that I was in such a state is incredibly embarrassing

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Well, that never happens on mdma, you can remember every single thing you did on it, even if you take “too much” you can still think logically and seperate right from wrong (if you focus lol), even alcohol cant do that.

K, what about heart rate… I have a friend (who admittedly has two heart defects)… he took 250mg, I was sober… we did an experiment, I took his HR… 1.5 hrs in standing his HR was 165… Repeated use will induce cardiac damage if this occurs within everyone who takes it

Statistically it induces a HR increase of about 30bpm at 1.5mg/kg… whilst sitting… dancing/exercise is an entirely different story

I was at a party about 3 weeks ago, many were on ketamine, some were drunk… I was pretty much nothing aside from a bit of weed. Anyway, one of the ketted up kids managed to break both his feet (well toes on each foot)… in the same night… Around university/college age (where I’m at, though I’ve deferred a year)… this shit is rampant, if you want to go to parties/clubs or festivals it’s almost impossible to stay away from.

Dude 250 is like a whole “highly dosed” pill, of COURSE his heart rate will go super high.

150MG is the only dose required to feel euphoria and the feelings its famous for, that is enough for me every single time, half a pill is all anyone needs, sure 250MG is also possible and makes you space out to the galaxy, but is unneccesary.

In the netherlands it is widely advised to take only half a pill, 100/120MG, and then maybe another half, not a whole pill at once

I have a weak heart, runs in the family, my grandma died of a heart attack, 2 of my aunts have a pace maker, and my dad has heart disease.

I never got a heart attack from it, or a trip to the ER lol, even when I was a dumb idiot teenager and took 3 Whole pills in a night one time, I survived and nothing happenned, sleep after it wore off.

Also being active on it and partying or dancing is also very different than taking it to bond/chill with friends on a couch or bed with some music, which is what I usually do with it, I dont like going to parties much with mdma, love it to chill with friends, I think heart rate will be much higher if you use it for a real party.

I usually would only take half a pill, on rare occasions a whole, but I have plenty of friends that took even 2 at once (which is idiotic, moronic), I have friends who took them as candy every hour in a night and didnt die.

Of course there are some unfortunate people that might have died when they took more than 1 pill, or too much MG, but that happens with other stuff as well to the unfortunate person, people even die form alcohol overdose.

Pretty sure more people die from a car crash after drinking too much alcohol than directly from MDMA/xtc

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There u go

I’ve seen these charts… I don’t understand the point though? What are you trying to tell me

I’m well aware ecstasy is one of the safer substances one can take. According to this list so is methadone (fat chance)… cocaine is even ranked below booze within two of the three graphs… doesn’t mean I’m going to use cocaine or methadone

I’m not opposed to trying MDMA once or twice on the sheer basis of I legitimately think it’s relatively harmless used extremely sparingly, but I’d need to know exactly what was in that pill. Shelling out the 10-15$ for a test kit seems like a hassle, buying a pill costs 20-30$, so I’m paying 40-45$… for an experience that probably isn’t worth forty dollars.

I’m not sure it’s appropriate to be talking about illicit drugs of recreation on here. I’m fairly sure the Pharma subsection is reserved for AAS, though I could be wrong. I don’t mind talking about this (though I don’t like sharing personal anecdotes on a public forum), but I don’t want to get kicked off T-nation either.