We aren’t all trying to win a pro card, I mean, I wish I could simply compete but anxiety and shitty joints don’t help. If I had a doctor that could moniter my health my anxiety would drop substantially.
Are they hiding the truth? Probably… Why? Because they don’t want you’re death on their hands. Over the past few decades bodybuilding has turned from a “who has the best aesthetics, proportions and work ethic” to a “who has the best genetics, work ethic and can handle the most amount of drugs” style competition. People can argue with me all they want, however it’s the sad truth, the majority of professional bodybuilders are abusing the absolute shit out of everything imagineable, not that that’s a bad thing, it’s just what’s nessecary to get to that top level these days (that and great genes). No one knows how much these people use, no one will ever truly know as it is secretive in nature and the true numbers would probably be mind boggling. Think back to the golden age of bodybuilding, these guys lived healthy lifestyles, used minimal amounts of drugs (or so they said, I mean Pete Gymkowski and Mike Mentzer both used a looooot… but Mike Mentzer died in his 40’s), the majority of golden age bodybuilders from the 50’s, 60’s and 70’s are still alive (although some still died young, Casey Viator for instance), however today’s bodybuilders are dropping dead are fairly alarming rates, whether this is actually due to an increased rate of death due to drug abuse or the development of technology that allows news like this to get out there quicker and spread is unknown, however I’d put my money on the higher mortality rates due to cardiovascular complications (structural damage to the heart, accelerated atherosclerosis to name a few issues that may cause premature deaths in high level of genetically predisposed (congenital heart defect, familial inhereted hypertrophic or diastolic cardiomyopathy) bodybuilders)
For all we know some of these guys could be on like 15 grams of gear/wk, the chances of these pros being honest is minute as they know whatever they say they take, they’ll have a bunch of young kids with the mindset of “fuck dude, he takes that and looks like that, well if I take that then clearly I’ll look like that” which clearly isn’t true as a lot of bodybuilding boils down to genetics (muscular insertions, potential for muscular hypertrophy, individual ability to tolerate megadoses of gear or generally having a great response to gear), work ethic and diet. Too add to that, the majority of people won’t be able to handle such doses that the pro’s use, and if a pro give’s their stack (which will likely also include GH, slin, potentially IGF-1, beta 2 adrenoceptor agonists etc), and kids or adults decide to use that exact stack in order to get buff… quite a few people will die, therefore it’s easier for Lee Priest to say “I used 300mg of deca/wk” or “I only started using at 19” despite looking like this at age 18
Some Pro’s might be using less, I’ve heard of some high level competitors that only use 500mg/wk, however it all boils down to INDIVIDUAL response to gear, while you CERTAINLY can’t be Mr Olympia on 500mg/wk, some people just have the genes where they can get out of 300mg/wk what you get out of 1,000mg/wk, it isn’t fair, but that’s life for you.
Also 675mgEQ/wk, 560m Deca/wk, 25mg/day and 150mg test/wk anadrol isn’t moderately high for a first time user, that’s an advanced cycle that I would consider to be appropriate for someone of you’re calibre (someone looking for a pro card). For a first time user or for any non competitive athlete that’d be insane, I recently finished up my first “cycle”, it was 250mg test/wk, that’s a low end first time cycle, didn’t go any higher because I’m extremely afraid of cardiovascular consequences but that’s irrelevant to this thread.
Why are you on nolva and aromasin? Aromasin is harsh shit, if you can get away without the use an AI, I would. AI use in conjunction with androgens (or even without androgens) will exacerbate an already strained lipid profile from steroid use, estrogen is important for cholesterol management, libido, bone density and mental health and much more. The ratio of testosterone to estrogen is more important than the number, if you have high tesotsterone, expect to have high estrogen, and it isn’t a problem unless you have side effects. The nolva I can understand due to oxymetholone’s mysterious estrogenic properties (due to lack of direct conversion as a DHT derivitave is incapable of directly converting to estrogen therefore I hypothesize it might agonize/ directly bind to the ER somehow thus a SERM would be of great help to eliminate the chances of gynocomastia.
I should add that I believe theres a law of diminishing returns when it comes to gear and I believe many people take WAYYY too much (even the pros) and could achieve the same results on less with more hard work and attention to diet, while gear is obviously a nessecary piece of the puzzle, I believe many people use way to much, the power of test only for bulking up is criminally under-rated.
