Understood, yes, they were made illegal against the recommendation of the FDA, WHO etc… it was primarily related to “these non Americans are beating us in sport… this needs to stop”
Unfortunately soon after the criminalisation began, all boards started getting on board with propaganda, fear mongering etc. Gear IS NOT heathy, but some of the purported side effects (that they make it seem likely to occur) such as hallucinations, delusions/psychosis, violent outbursts… very few will have such a reaction, perhaps high dose tren/mtren/halo etc
I understand what you are saying. ED was my biggest concern. I guess we all weigh the consequences and risks. That one I experienced and it was too much for me. I would risk the others.
For me a hypertensive crisis/ high blood pressure in general would be far more concerning than ED. HBP induces LVH and overall cardiac enlargement (deleteriously, associated with a deterioration in systolic/diastolic function etc)… don’t want this compounding variable when on drugs that drastically increase the risk for one developing cardiomyopathy
you understand the point I intended to make without diving into the minutia and addressing, specifically, sugar content in orange juice and potential health risks. Orange juice can be replaced in that metaphor with something arguably more healthy. Substitute kombucha if you prefer. Or water. You get where I was going.
yea when you start throwing in orals, especially depending on the specific oral in question, toxicity is a real concern.
At first things were great. And possibly it was just a hormone fluctuation, but one day it happened and I panicked. It could have honestly been my BP as well. I have read too many deca dick horror stories though. Although, I tried Deca a long time ago with no problems.
Yeah quite random for me too, sometimes i get it sometimes I don’t, but usually for me after cycle, i remember i had more fluctuation issues when i did tren EOD, also libido unstable, plus mood, everything.
Im on Deca right now, 400/500MG still no issues so far 8 weeks in, no sign of deca dick. I was wondering if that means im good and don’t belong to the deca dick victims, or maybe it will come upon quitting the deca >_< a lil bit concerned about that, we’ll see
I do now, I apologise… I was initially confused. I thought you were comparing two things that were bad for you, then stating Orange juice in excess wasn’t bad… So I became confused
That guy is a great example for all of why it’s a horrible idea to do ridiculously high doses. Guy is only 22 but is fully bald, has aged so much he looks like he’s 40, and will probably be dead before 30 if he keeps going this rate.
I mean… the guy looks fucking stacked, but yes… he will probably die young. It irritates me within these videos when the users stipulate “Im healthy, look at my bloodwork, nothings wrong”… decent lipids doesn’t account for toxicity on a cellular level…
Effect on neurology pertaining to hormones will differ for everyone
Those predisposed to psychiatric ailment are heavily predisposed to adverse outcomes on tren/deca
With deca it’s primarily alterations regarding serotonin/dopamine expression/output for those who get ED… in my opinion
The dihydronandrolone theory is flawed in my unprofessional opinion
DHT has a higher affinity for the AR than DHN to begin with, thus receptor displacement isn’t particularly likely
to saturate the AR enough to displace DHT entirely (knock it off the receptor or whatever) you’d have to use SUCH exorbitant dosages. By using AAS you synthesise new and initially upregulatie (eventually downregulating to maintain homeostasis) existing AR. You’d have to take a dose high enough in which AR saturation (in this case super saturation) occurs at a rate higher than the rate new AR is synthesised… we know bodybuilders who blast megadosages still acquire… albeit marginally better results with even HIGHER dosages (say five vs six GRAMS weekly)… hence for this theory to be fact the sheer amount you’d have to take…
