Trap Bar Squat: Y'Know, Not the Trap Bar Deadlift?

Right, you can do that :man_facepalming:
Thanks for the idea

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Do you have issues that prevent you from squatting ? Like shoulder issue or something in that regards?

My arm is still in a splint, and lunges get boring
*Just now realized you probably meant the op :man_facepalming:

Yes i did…you should be taking it easy and allowing yourself to heal.

sure. congrats. I’ll email you a gold star.

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Yes. Shoulder just won’t take it.

Don’t need a gold star from a smartarse. Just need to confirm a squat method I can use with my equipment.

all you went on about through the entire thread, including the very first post, was how everyone ignores this lift, and you think it’s really great and people should know the difference. This is the first time you’ve brought up that your issue is a lack of equipment. From your posts, I thought this whole thread was about you trying to show the world that you know the difference between two exercises that most people don’t know.

Here’s how your original post might have looked if you really just wanted confirmation that this will help build your legs similarly to more traditional squats:

‘Hey guys! I’m looking for creative ways to develop leg strength and size with very limited equipment. I don’t have a proper squat rack or barbell to use, but I DO have a trap bar. I was thinking that if I lifted the trap bar with lower hip placement to start, squatted down further to initiate the movement, and treated it like a dumbbell squat, I could reap most of the benefits of a more traditional squat variation. What do you guys think? Is this a sufficient replacement for barbell squats?’

All your first post says is ‘i’m so smart. i’m so smart. i know the difference between 2 things. do you know the difference between 2 things? probably not because i’m so smart.’

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It could be me being oblique (highly likely) or just lack of exposure to one, but I just always thought that this was exactly what it was designed for.

yea, I didn’t even get into that, but yes. When I have a side handle deadlift event in competition, I approach it like a squat, or kind of a half squat, since the distance you have to travel is less than a full squat. That’s how it should be treated for maximal performance. You CAN treat it like a more traditional deadlift if you are lifting very light weights, but as the weights get closer to your 1rm, you’ll start to squat down more and use more favorable leverages to lift the weight anyway. Same thing happens in a barbell deadlift, but in reverse. When the weight is light with a deadlift bar, you can get your hips really low to initiate the pull and complete the lift. But when the weight approaches your max, your hips will jump to the appropriate height before the bar breaks the ground.

People have gotten lazy with the language. Lifting of the trap bar was a “trap bar lift”, which Paul Kelso references in both Powerlifting Basics Texas Style and The Shrug Book. It’s it’s own lift, but people took to calling it “trap bar deadlift”, which led to it being understood to be a deadlift.

A proper trap bar lift exists between squats and deads.

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It’s weird how moving the load from in front to the sides seems to turn it into a hybrid squat/dead and loads across the shoulders and down the spine instead of to the shoulders and through the spine.

At least that’s how it seems to me.

people get so caught up in needing lifts to be literal representations of their names. These names were not that well thought out, lol. Just because something’s called a deadlift, doesn’t mean it has to be performed in such a specific way. I hear so many people say nonsense like ‘if you don’t come to a dead stop each rep, it’s not a deadlift’, just because they want ‘dead’ to make the lift inherently from a dead stop.

A trap bar deadlift is like a partial squat. A car deadlift is like a partial range leg press. An axle deadlift is… awful.

side note: I’m hitting 500+ on axle deadlift strapless. Gonna be a useful talent in my next show.

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Hey guys, while we’re chatting about trap bar lift technique, here’s some from today’s workout. What technique would we call this?

I’ll go wheel of fortune style

T_RRIBL_

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I thought I was the only one that still listened to NIN! :smiley:

Trent keeps making new music: people are going to keep listening, haha.

What the hell, man.

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My trap bar DL looks nothing like a squat because I actually squat deep

I have issues

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brutal set. I’ll consider trying this…

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