When I grip the Trap Bar It tends to tip forward on me.
Dude, are you just searching for the word “trap bar” so you can post your video in every thread?
I bought one for i think about $150
I believe the reason people can lift more on a trap bar is due to moments. The moment of a force is equal to force times perpendicular distance. On a trap bar, the weight is closer to you, therefore a lower moment.
[quote]Webbykun wrote:
I believe the reason people can lift more on a trap bar is due to moments. The moment of a force is equal to force times perpendicular distance. On a trap bar, the weight is closer to you, therefore a lower moment.[/quote]
This is my kind of post. I just took Statics and Dynamics last semester, and am taking Strength of Materials right now. As a civil engineer major, I get off to this stuff 
I love how you can actually apply it to real situations like this
My trap bar deadlift is almost the same as my sumo deadlift (my strongest). It’s the kind of trap bar that has handles at the same level a regular bar would be.
Because the handles are out a ways and you can only pull conventional stance, the ROM was huge compared to sumo. But it was a lot easier to break the ground (my sticking point on sumo). My sticking point was about mid shin with these.
[quote]bruinsdmb wrote:
[quote]quiet one wrote:
The trap bar basically takes your posterior chain out of the lift. That’s typically where the wink link of the deadlift is, whether it’s hamstrings or glutes, or whatever. By using the trap bar, or doing barbell hack squats, you put most of the load on your quads and should expect to lift more, but you’re not doing a deadlift anymore. I stopped using the trap bar when I realized that’s what was happening.
I can deadlift 515 most of the time, with a best lift of 535, but I can do barbell hack squats with 585 when I really want to blast my quads. (It helps if there’s a hottie nearby!)
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To say that it takes your posterior chain out of the lift is a mistake. It is still a deadlift, and it is a superior one due to the less amount of stress on the lower back. Unless you are a powerlifter, the trap bar is the way to go.[/quote]
Wrong, the harder lift is better, ie, straight bar. I can pull 405 over twenty times with a trap bar. there’s no way I’m doing that with a straight bar. It’s been stated earlier that your taking some of your posterior chain out of it. You’re also doing a completely different lift. It’s cool for a diversion for me, but it’s not really going to help my deadlift other than putting some metal toughness in me for a high rep set every now and then.
Wow, this thread has definitely been exciting for me!
I am 5’8" with a long torso and the conv. DL has always been scary for me, I pulled my back several months back and I’ve always been weary of it. I recognize my weakness to be my lower back and have neglected to DL much in any way shape or fashion since that injury. Lately my back has been feeling a little better so I have incorporated some lighter DLs with a straight bar.
I was taught (in high school) that the trap bar, which we called the hex bar, was for shrugs only, I can’t believe I hadn’t come across this sooner. I’m also relatively new to the DL variations (conv vs. sumo vs. RDL) and will be incorporating those a lot more… mainly sumo due to my long torso.
[quote]Julius_Caesar wrote:
[quote]buffalokilla wrote:
bruinsdmb wrote:
To say that it takes your posterior chain out of the lift is a mistake. It is still a deadlift, and it is a superior one due to the less amount of stress on the lower back. Unless you are a powerlifter, the trap bar is the way to go.
I agree, with the caveat of making sure you stand on a 100lbs plate or something to ensure a greater ROM than most tarp bars.
The reason you lift more in the tarp deadlift is higher handles (less ROM) and less anterior displacement. Same muscle actions are involved. If someone DOESN’T lift more, there’s something seriously wrong.
-Dan[/quote]
I can lift more with a straight bar than a trap bar, go figure… Wherein lies my weakness?
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Same here, I’ve always found it strange.
[quote]IronAbrams wrote:
[quote]Julius_Caesar wrote:
[quote]buffalokilla wrote:
bruinsdmb wrote:
To say that it takes your posterior chain out of the lift is a mistake. It is still a deadlift, and it is a superior one due to the less amount of stress on the lower back. Unless you are a powerlifter, the trap bar is the way to go.
I agree, with the caveat of making sure you stand on a 100lbs plate or something to ensure a greater ROM than most tarp bars.
The reason you lift more in the tarp deadlift is higher handles (less ROM) and less anterior displacement. Same muscle actions are involved. If someone DOESN’T lift more, there’s something seriously wrong.
-Dan[/quote]
I can lift more with a straight bar than a trap bar, go figure… Wherein lies my weakness?
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Same here, I’ve always found it strange.[/quote]
Hard to say why, maybe you’re a little weak in the erectors.