[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
More on topic though. Have any of you guys tried the rope movements for they did in the back video or that tri set on the cable station for chest? Both awesome and will be staples in my routine now.[/quote]
Yes, did chest/tri yesterday and added them after presses. Keepers.[/quote]
I added them in for active rest today, I like them a lot. Heres a shocker… You don’t need to use that much weight on them! We may all be weak little sissies here in a few weeks. I think I used 50 pounds on the pulley station I had them on, same thing for Kayak Rows.
Obviously I can’t say they are helping in any way yet (Only done them once…) but they give a NICE peak contraction, and because of the way I have them planned in I don’t think they will take away any performance from my main overload day I do for back. More work = more muscle hopefully.[/quote]
I also used those Kayak rows today as a finisher. Started with 70lbs found myself using 50 real quick. Its a keeper for now but I felt it a bit on my rotator.[/quote]
What are these kayak rows? Is that the name given to one of the back movements with the rope?[/quote]
basically the same movement someone does when paddling in a kayak…
They are on the livespill, not sure what vids exactly.
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
What are these kayak rows? Is that the name given to one of the back movements with the rope?[/quote]
The one with the EZ-attachment, where it looks like they’re paddling. First vid with Professor X I think.[/quote]
Ahhhh ok thanks, I did those too. Sweet name, haha.[/quote]
I tried kayak rows today and LOVED them. from the first rep i felt the strongest contraction i’ve ever felt in my lats.
And how did CT come up with these(and the other stuff that only he does)? Did he get them from someone else(he states he frequently looks to the strongmen and bodybuilders in the pre-steroid era for inspiration) or was he just messing around and discovered them?
[quote]deadliftgoal500 wrote:
And also, for the rope tri-set do you need a rope, as my gym doesn’t have a rope but has the triangular pushdown attachments?[/quote]
Buy a piece of rope. They aren’t expensive. Even a towel would do.
[quote]deadliftgoal500 wrote:
To get back on topic to the videos…
I tried kayak rows today and LOVED them. from the first rep i felt the strongest contraction i’ve ever felt in my lats.
And how did CT come up with these(and the other stuff that only he does)? Did he get them from someone else(he states he frequently looks to the strongmen and bodybuilders in the pre-steroid era for inspiration) or was he just messing around and discovered them?
[quote]SSC wrote:
Threads like this make me happy that I’m part of an actual Brotherhood of Iron.
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What exactly are you trying to say with this? It’s coming across as an insult to the current BOI, at least to me.[/quote]
It’s like we are at thanksgiving dinner and the TNation BOI is the kids table. OURS is the adult table. See what I’m saying?
I’m totally kidding, I don’t think he meant to place any emphasis on ACTUAL.[/quote]
Although the other BOI does have more developed people overall, MANY of us started on the BOI here, which, I believe it’s safe to say, is a large part of how we ended up where we are, and where we’re going with regard to strength training. I’m happy to be a part of both groups, and think that anyone who lives this lifestyle should be willing to take some time to pass on knowledge to the less experienced, as others did for them. Assuming those asking questions have good work ethic, intensity, etc. [/quote]
Dude, first off, you are leagues above many here as far as not being negative. It is greatly appreciated. I honestly wish you would post more.
Always an interesting experience to have outside eyes watching and critiquing your training. Good coaches or experienced training partners make a HUGE difference and will pick out and help you exploit little (or not so little) deficiencies that you didn’t notice or acknowledge on your own. Good to see you getting that outside feedback from CT, hopefully you can parlay this experience into new progress and success. It takes humility to step back and let someone else tell you what you’re doing wrong, but, from the looks of things, you’re rolling with it. I wish you the best of luck and hope you blow everyone away with your progress in the coming months.
That being said, epic ballwashing from Solid Khalid in this thread. Someone should give you a medal.
The Kayak rows are great! They really isolate the lat well on each side as long as you really squeeze with the hand on the side you are pulling to. Used the stretchers with the v grip as a finisher after kayaks and my lats are toast! I have done full sessions of nothing but mixed grips pullups and I am more sore from kayaks than 200 pullups.
On a different note, X, has CT had you do the ab shredder stuff? Either in the gym or with the prowler? Did them today with my son on the prowler and it is brutal.
I really enjoyed the videos. Reading the ‘Professor X: A request’ thread over & over & OVER again when I first started lurking this site a few years ago definately inspired me to ‘force’ my body to grow past a weight rut I was in at the time.
As for the ‘weaknessess’, don’t we all have them? I would find it pretty boring to go to the gym daily and train a perfectly proportioned physique. Whereas knowing your traps or whatever need to be brought up and training them double-hard and seeing them grow is pretty cool.
Then again I don’t plan on competing so don’t care if I have weak areas or not.
Respect to you X, I hope to be even half as enormous as you one day!
Then again I don’t plan on competing so don’t care if I have weak areas or not.
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I don’t understand this mentality. Out of curiosity, why do you not care about weak points?
From a strength standpoint, bringing up weak points will have a positive affect on other lifts.
From a bodybuilding standpoint, bringing up weak points will make your physique more complete.
From a regular gym goers standpoing, going to the gym to stay in shape and look good, bringing up weak points will lead to a more balanced, better looking phyique.
[quote]D_C wrote:
Saying I don’t care was probably wrong, and i’m constantly trying to address my own, like most serious lifters I guess.
Just as someone who hasn’t competed and doesn’t plan to, I care less about having little imbalances than people who do compete regularly.
Hope this makes sense, because it wasn’t meant to come across as me saying I don’t care about weak points AT ALL.
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What you wrote makes perfect sense. We all have imbalances. That goes for many pros as well. Johnny Jackson’s calves aren’t exactly blowing mine out the water…but he is still one of the most well known. This is about constantly improving, not simply reaching a certain level and staying the same. That is what bodybuilding is about. My eyes were not set on competition previously and any imbalances there can be worked on.
It isn’t that someone has imbalances. It is more that anyone would try to act like having imbalances means you don’t care or weren’t aware or that by not being perfectly balanced this means anything more than what it is.
I appreciate the comments. Stop defending yourself for being happy with your own perception.
It would not have mattered whether X kicks ass on the vids, or struggles. Haters will always hate. Even though I think that after the initial struggle, X handled the situation greatly, I expected that the vids will be like a magnet to the basher-folk.
Seriously, if anyone else would have been in his shoes, I doubt they could have performed better. Everyone knows how hard it is to do something what they are not good at, not adapted to.
I know that though some think it’s a “cool gift” to train in the HQ, but lot of people are afraid of cameras, afraid of putting themselves in front of a crowd, eyes of such person as CT. So I have profound respect for everyone who got the invitation to train there, and used the opportunity.
Further, I emphasize that those who got there have the right to be there. They’ve proven themselves to be dedicated and advanced over prolonged periods.
I have nothing against the Professor, his thread is among the most helpfuls on this site. I appreciate every experienced-developed person who shares his knowledge and take on things regarding weight training and anything else. I doubt I’d have half the knowledge or the results without guys like him (or Syn, ParA, MODOK, H4M, CC …)…
I’m looking forward to changes in X’s methods of training, and I hope it’ll all work out well. End of shitstorm.
Love him or hate him, this thread about him is hitting 600 posts, almost more than the thread they made after the roswell ufo crash. thats what you get when you mix Vin Diesel and the Black Superman. as Charlie Sheen would say: “Bi-Winning”.
