You’re mixing up the Six Day War and the Yom Kippur War. Six Day War started with an Israeli surprise attack on the Egyptian Air Force.
Yes, but the issue is with the people there. Unless you committed ethnic cleansing in the immediate aftermath of military operations, you cannot do it afterwards if you’re a first world nation.
Do you seriously think that Israelis would support giving citizenship to Palestinians? The I have a bridge to sell you…
Why don’t the Palestinians have Israeli citizenship then? You can’t annex territory without people living there - the territory is supposedly Israel but the people living there are not Israeli citizens.
That’s why the legal wrangling and the “disputed territories” label.
If @Jewbacca can correct me if I am wrong, but there are a fair number of Palestinians living in Israel as Israeli’s who want nothing to do with the political situation of the occupied territories.
One of the requirements of citizenship to any country is acknowledging that the country exists and renounces violence against that country. The Palestinians in large part will not commit to anything short of the destruction of Israel, hence they cannot get citizenship. That should come as no surprise.
Those are Israeli Arabs who stayed in Israel post declaration of independence in 1948 and the subsequent war.
West Bank and Gaza were occupied in 1967 and that’s a whole different ball game - “Palestinians acquiring Israeli citizenship” is the bogeyman of Israeli politic discourse for decades, claimed by the rightwingers to signal the death of Israel as a Jewish State.
PR are citizens of the USA, but just in a territory. Just like people in Guam. They can’t vote for president, while living in PR. If they moved to Florida, they can vote.
"The Arabs living in East Jerusalem and the Druze in the Golan Heights, occupied by Israel in the Six-Day War of 1967 and later annexed, were offered Israeli citizenship, but most have refused, not wanting to recognize Israel’s claim to sovereignty. "
Well there it is. The problem in a nutshell. There has been a standing arrangement for decades for a 2 state solution. It requires 2 simple things.
Recognize Israel’s right to exist.
Renounce and stop violence against the Israeli state.
So deep is the Palestinian hatred of Israel or anything Jewish, that they would rather die with out a home then live in peace with a Jewish neighbor.
What other solution is there? Go ahead and annihilate Israel? You can’t help people who prefer to hate rather than give themselves a shot at peace.
Only Palestinians living in East Jerusalem, not the entire West Bank. This was an offer solely to legitimize Israeli claim to Jerusalem as its capital.
Since Israel captured East Jerusalem in 1967, it has formally offered residents living in that area the option to apply for Israeli citizenship. Until around a decade ago, very few did, as the vast majority identified, and still do identify, as Palestinian. Recent years, however, have seen a surge in the number of Palestinians seeking Israeli citizenship. But Israel, which in the decade from 2003 to 2013 denied or delayed about half of the citizenship applications by East Jerusalemites, has more recently been failing to accept almost all of them, The Times of Israel has established.
Nobody in Israel is seriously advocating giving citizenship to Palestinians. It’s viewed as an existential threat to Israel as a Jewish state. If you’re Palestinian getting Israeli citizenship is all but impossible. You can’t get Israeli citizenship, period. Even if all Palestinians suddenly “rejected violence” there’s no fucking way Israel is giving it to them.
Tasneem’s family is one of thousands affected by the Citizenship and Entry into Israel Law, which prohibits Palestinians from the West Bank and Gaza from obtaining permanent or temporary resident status in East Jerusalem or Israel. The citizenship law applies to married couples even when one spouse holds Israeli residency or citizenship.
If you’re starting to quote Al Jezeera, you are starting to run out of ideas considering they are as anti-semitic as it gets and you know that damn well.
Look there are 3 options:
2 state solution where Palestinians accept the existence of Israel and disavow violence towards it.
1 state solution where Israel annexes the occupied territories boots out the terrorists and ships out those that don’t want to live there and provides a path towards citizenship towards those who do.
Get rid of Israel and let the Palestinians have it.
#1 is the most logical, but the Palestinians cannot bring themselves to accept Israel or Jews. #2 is just fine with me, but unlikely. #3 is not going to happen.
That’s it, there is not a 4,5 or 6. So you have to pick out of 1,2 or 3. So if you had your way which solution would you choose?
No, that’s patronizing bullshit. There’s no fucking way Israel accepts options 1 and 2, let alone Palestinians.
State of Israel has from their perspective perfectly valid, security and political - hell, even existential reasons for not giving Palestinians citizenship, even if they all started wearing kippahs and professing undying love for the State of Israel. But that doesn’t stop them from cynically peddling PR bullshit mostly to US Christian Zionists how “only three steps are needed” from the Palestinians and we’d have everlasting peace.
Israelis know it’s bullshit, Palestinians know it’s bullshit and that PR spiel is exclusively made for a specific subset of US Christians.
Palestinians are arguably using a much more cynical strategy - blowing up their kids and using unwitting bleeding heart liberals to advance their supposed cause of “freedom”, with the equivalent “if only Israelis would… and we’d have everlasting peace”. But that’s also bullshit. Palestinians know it, Israelis know it. The only difference is that the target audience are dumb liberals with whom the supposed “Palestinian cause” is used a Trojan horse for introduction of systemic antisemitism (see UK Labour Party)
If you believe they aren’t then your the one with the problem. They are transparently anti-semantic. They are very far from ‘fair and balanced’ especially when it comes to Israel.
We all know the problem. What is the solution. There only 3 options. You list the problems which are already well known. What is the solution? Blow up Israel? Or something else?
No, only two options - destruction of Israel or expulsion of Palestinians.
Option one will not happen due to an massive disparity of forces - the Arabs couldn’t do it in 1948 when the odds were overwhelmingly in their favor and they sure as hell can’t do it now, despite their posturing.
Option two was viable until 1967, but now Israel as a first world country simply cannot expel Palestinians - it’s bad PR. So they’re slowly squeezing Palestinians into smaller and smaller mutually isolated enclaves separated by Israeli settlements and roads, hoping that if they won’t leave on their own they’ll at least be visually and physically isolated - out of sight out of mind.
The Palestinian answer to this strangulation and isolation is making more and more babies on less and less land they control hoping that their increasing misery will make the Israeli strategy of walling them off untenable one way or the other.
It is doubtful that Maher is registered either Democrat or Republican…and if he is, he certainly has no allegiances to either. If I am not mistaken…he considers himself a form of Libertarian.
He has shown over the years to be as critical of the Democrats as he has the Republicans…and often does a good job pointing out the hypocrisy of both.
