345 lbs x 0 damn no way lol (gonna take like 3 min rest between sets after this)
345 lbs x 2 i aint leavin til I get 10 sets and idc how many reps just as many as possible.
345 lbs x 5 oh hell yeah idk what got into me but I went full berserker on this set MORE MORE!!!
Im gonna try and get 10 next set
345 lbs x 4
345 lbs x 1 Alright I’ll call it a day. I was about to make an insane goal to get 100 reps no matter how many sets. If i got 4 this set then I would continue but it would probably take me forever
HAH!! I am not disappointed with this at all. I know I tried my absolute best. On the set I got 7 I knew I probably wasn’t going to get 10x10 so I tried to make it a goal to get a minimum of 5 reps.
We really don’t know our limits lol
Dumbbell Lunges
3 x 10
Sit ups
3 x 20
I’m chuckling from this whole session.
I don’t think I ever pushed myself that hard. Believe me I know I pushed myself. I knew deep down I didn’t go hard with those squats last week but this I know I did.
I will admit I am a little concerned about running intermediate cause I can still see DW isn’t quite working as it did the first time I ran it. I’m even eating more than last time (following all the foods in the diet). I could just be overthinking this though, (weight is too heavy or 2 minute rest in between sets is supposed to be hellish). Then again compared to what I was able to do with 335 lbs on intermediate it makes it a little strange.
Underthinking moreso. The weight has been too heavy from the start. I figured you were aware of that and it was a conscious decision. How’d you determine the work weights on this?
I kinda just based it off of my best sets on intermediate. On my best set of squat with intermediate I used 295 lbs and on my best sets of deadlifts I used 335 lbs. Because, on the last week of DW Intermediate you’re supposed to get 100 reps in like 8 sets, I figured maybe I could handle a little more weight on my second run of DW Beginner than the weight I used for those sets.
I started my second run of DW Beginner with 315 lbs on the squat and 355 lbs on the deadlift. Eventually I lowered the weight for squats to 300 lbs and the deadlift to 345 lbs. I thought because I was eating more and following the DW diet that eventually I’ll get a perfect set with the weight if I keep on trying it. I know on my first run of beginner I used 225 lbs for the squat and it was super rough the first time. Eventually I conquered that weight.
Lol sorry for the essay but that was my thought process.
I’d go the opposite: I’d take what you ended beginner with and what you ended intermediate with and split the difference. You get unlimited rest for intermediate: it’s a WHOLE different game with 2 minute rests,especially for an individual that was relaxing on conditioning work up until then.
On top of that, you have to set yourself up for success for intermediate. It’s a big jump between beginner and intermediate.
Sometimes, we take a few steps back so we can get a running start for a giant leap.
I would punch myself in the nuts but after reading this I know I have gotten stronger so my effort on beginner was not in vain. Progress is obvious on my upper body lifts because ironically I was more patient with those lifts. With that being said I will lower the weight for intermediate. I’ll go with 325 lbs on deads and 285 lbs on squats. I estimate that I can handle those weights for week 1 of intermediate.
Yeah man. Between run one and two I added too much weight as well. Beginners of round two was terrifying and intermediate ended up being impossible for me to complete. I think if I had added 10-15lbs to my first runs lower body lifts weight I would’ve been thoroughly challenged, but able to complete intermediate the second time through. Live and learn, but I still wish I had gotten all the reps.
The first few weeks (although difficult) give a false sense of comfort IMO. It’s manageable… but once those rest times start becoming restricted it’s brutal.
Also, you need to take into consideration that you’ve been beating yourself to a pulp for the past 18 weeks so it’s kind of expected that something has to give haha.
That 18 weeks is about to turn into 24 weeks and then I will finally deload because I’ll be switching over to 5/3/1. Lol Deep Water worked so well the first time I guess I got a little cocky. All good though, I’ll use what I can actually handle on intermediate. But just for some guidance I will use the @T3hPwnisher summoning technique. If you were running deep water for 18 weeks would you deload instead of running your second run of intermediate after?
@ChongLordUno@T3hPwnisher
Gentlemen that was a lovely podcast. I watched it after I ate my massive Deep Water Breakfast.
It was nice to hear how Pwn influenced you Chong. Dude I’ve been leaching off of his mentality as well. You have an awesome looking beard too. What are “navy seals”?
Pwn when you mentioned Dragon Ball Z you had me chuckling man. Really loved how you mentioned that “Get To Yes” principle. I absolutely love that terminology.
With that being said, on the internet there is so much crap out there stating that you can’t train hard for consecutive days. One thing I really hate is how the internet says 5 reps for strength and like 8 for hypertrophy. DW proved to me I can get stronger with higher reps and that I can train hard for consecutive days. Most “Oddball” program that I never heard about yet it gave me the most progress. Okay I finished my essay lmao.
Glad you dug it dude. Anime was a BIG influence on me in my teens, and I still come back to it on occasion to recapture that.
Strength is too narrowly defined to mean “1rm” to SO many people that the conversation gets muddy. We have to get stupider to get smarter. In nature, we understand that size=strength. We see a bear and we get scared. We see an ant and we don’t worry, even though the ant is “stronger”. And rep ranges get dumb too. “5 reps for strength, 8 for size” “Hey, if you see a guy deadlifting 800lbs for 8 reps, would you say he’s strong?” “…”
Just saw this ping.
Great video, and I haven’t given up (proof is in my logs).
I did complain and never fully trained (and most importantly, focused on diet - hence blood sugar spikes and all sorts of other shit) as seriously as a lot of people, which is definitely not the way to go. That being said, I am optimistic for this year and i guess the logs will show it in the long run. It’s great to have some 3rd party accountability.
I swear every time I see your profile pic it reminds me of younger toguro. Speaking of size, I wonder how much muscle mass I can add onto my frame until I reach my limit. Would you say your current physique is your dream body or do you want to get bigger?
I am far and away from my dream body. However, it’s a dream I had to give up on if I want to maintain a good relationship with my family and gainful employment.
My dream body would be something like 2008 Derek Poundstone, 2007 Kroc, 2005 Jon Andersen, or even something like powerlifting prime era Dave Tate. In my heart, I’m a superheavyweight powerlifter, but it’s not in the cards.
Been catching up on the log and thought I might throw my two cents in on this.
The answer is yes, but there is layers to that yes in my opinion.
Every session should be challenging, but not every session should kill you. There are a multitude of different ways to make things difficult. Not every session has to be balls to the wall volume or load or leave you jello-legged.
Ex: For a long time I struggled with containing my emotion in training. I have a knack for being able to lose my shit for PR’s or big sets. The problem? I became reliant on it and it was a crutch for my confidence. If I wasn’t on the verge of tears before my deadlift set, I wasn’t gonna hit that PR. So I took time to back away from heavy training and practiced barring my emotions. It was very difficult at first because I wasn’t allowed to use my confidence cruth. Even though the loads were relatively light and didn’t leave my body wrecked. Now I know I can be strong even without screaming like a lunatic.
TL;DR
There are many facets to becoming a well rounded athlete. Every session should be difficult but that doesn’t mean there is one singular avenue to making a session “difficult”
Also another opinion of mine. Having a fun training session should be somewhere at the top of your priority list when it comes to training. That doesn’t mean go nuts and do whatever and hop to every program. Plan your fun. If you dread training and are dragging yourself through it just to survive… why are you even there.
(Also killer progress bro! You are getting fucking STRONG, having a blast catching up on all this)
Hello @jshaving, yeah I am aware that I come across as silly in that thread and it’s a bad habit. What’s weird is that I don’t even have that much interest in politics. I love to listen to others viewpoints on things but, I don’t actually have a desire to study them. One of my close friends is a socialist or something and I like to hear him share his views. Basically I kind of take politics like a grain of salt.
