Titan Tim Tackling his Twenties

Always free to say anything on my log jshaving. I loved that last part at the end about pushing your kid to do great in high school. Something I regret is not getting out of my comfort zone in high school. What I mean by this is not pushing myself academically. Had I pushed myself harder I could’ve gotten a big ol scholarship or something.

I did get a grant for college. I get it every year up until graduation. I’m obviously going to be in debt but I am definitely doing everything in my power right now to make sure I have a job after I graduate. But, hey at least I can stare at beautiful construction projects while in debt.

True. It really can be quite impressive what humans have managed to build. Both the minds that went behind the planning and the hands that put it all in place.

If you can, learn some skills. You won’t become a professional electrician without years of education and job experience, but if you’re able to, get some jobs over the summer throughout college. Work for a roofing company, a general construction company, a drywall company, a Valvoline, etc. When you’re older and need to fix a leaky roof on your house or your wife wants you to put up a new wall or you’re short on funds and need to do your own oil change, you’ll know how.

People used to know how to take care of much of life’s minor fixes themselves. A lot of us have lost that. I think it’d be good to get it back.

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It’s definitely not right for anyone to look down on blue collared people. Without those people society would not function at all. Electricians, Welders, Carpenters, Plumbers? Just like how if we didn’t have any Cashiers then who’s gonna do stuff cashiers do.

I like that story about you meeting someone who is intelligent in HVAC. That story reminds me of someone I met during my internship. He worked in building maintenance for years and now he’s a construction manager. He doesn’t have a college degree or anything but he definitely gets a lot of respect for his knowledge on anything related to buildings. He even took his time to teach me some tips about reading construction plans. Because of him I know what a finish schedule is. I’m still learning how to read plans though. I’m taking a class on that this semester. Definitely an important skill if I want to be a superintendent in the future.

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You know what’s funny. I have two uncles that fix up houses. They all over the place though. They just be working and working so it’s hard to squeeze me in.

Fixing up houses is side work for them

One of my uncles is naval architect

Other one owns a small contracting company

The one who owns the small contracting company was supposed to take me on a job. He said he would show me how to fix up houses. That never happened though because of time issues.

I absolutely agree with everything you said. I went to college for my job, never got a certificate or degree though. I was learning so much more in the field (and making money).

I don’t want to lay out how much money I make, but this is so true. The money is there just waiting to be made. There are ALWAYS ways to make more, too. More things to learn, more skills to aquire. The more you know, the more money you make.

I’m very sorry to hear about your father. That is an extremely difficult situation to be in.

This is what I’d like for my child as well. As long as they’re happy. I do not want to force anything though, like it was forced on me. It initially caused me to resent my parents until they understood that I was not going to let failure be an option. I knew I would make either roofing or HVAC work for me.

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Definitely bro. I really want to work for a general contractor as a field engineer intern.

I heard it’s best to get field experience before any office work (project engineer/project manager).

You didn’t ask and typically I have a policy that I am not going to share my opinion on the internet but you frequently bring up things I feel like I wish I would have known 10 years ago.

This is exactly how I feel. Everybody has value in what they do and even more importantly, that is not the only thing that defines them. They have a whole life you know nothing about.

Having worked all kinds of jobs since I was 18 and been on every side of the conversation, I would also like to point out that there are just aholes all over that look down on others for any reason they can possibly think of. The biggest place I saw this was in the military where some people I knew looked down on others if they were not infantry but some others looked down on infantry for being unqualified for anything else and uneducated. Not everyone is like this but people like this are all over.

Lastly, again as someone who has worked many jobs and who has had a lot of family in a lot of different jobs, I would say there is a lot to be said in how you do your job, not just what you do. I have known people with very little formal education that I am confident could do a better job than some people I graduated with simply because of how much care they put into their work no matter what the task is.

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Definitely. You have no idea how many times we have an engineered or spec job that looks ok on paper. In the real world, it is impossible. Having the knowledge and hands on experience of knowing what will and will not be possible is one of the most valuable traits to have to be able to get along with the people working with them. It’ll save time, money and a lot of people being pissed off at you.

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My dad was working at a wealthy person’s lakehouse (we’re assuming they were wealthy, will become obvious why), and a guy was there laying tile just in ONE room. The tiles were pretty big, and looked nice, and somehow they got to talking. The guy tells my dad that each tile is $100 and he makes $100 for laying each one. Each ONE! These people spent $20,000 on a floor with 100 tiles, and the guy makes $10,000 of that for what is not a particularly strenuous job, and that probably took less than a week. Do 10 jobs like that a year, or honestly even like 6-8 and a young guy would be just fine, money-wise.

Thank you. Between his two decades of experience, skill, and reputation as a worker, and my hopes to be my own boss and do things like flip houses someday, we are hoping to start our own company maybe in 5 years or so. He has some healing to do, and we need to figure out how to get the startup money for an operation like that, but I have hopes that we can find ourselves in a better place in the not too distant future.

One thing I would mention here, just because it is also an area that I have a passion for, is that practical or vocational learning is not the only kind of learning that matters. (I don’t think you were saying that, but I’m saying this more to @tlgains (this next portion is for you!) since he’s young dude. Only like a year younger than myself though, haha.)

Some people question how much that there book learnin’ will do for people, and college definitely isn’t the best option for many people, but I think there are certain things that are good about it. Being knowledgable about history, geography, economics, civics/politics, literature, religion, art, language, etc. is not a bad thing. If much of your time at school is spent learning about the construction field, and that is where you end up devoting your life to after graduating, fine. But being a well read person who can hold intelligent discussions is never not a good skill to have. Simple things like Greek mythology and Biblical references are found in the world and in our day-to-day readings all the time.

If you read anything by, say, Abraham Lincoln or MLK you will find hundreds of references to scripture, Greek philosphers, English literature, American history, etc. Knowing stuff helps you know more stuff, and this can be very helpful as you are becoming an adult and deciding how you view the world.

I shared this quote in another thread a little while back:

EDIT: I mentioned language. I’m not sure what your job will look like exactly, but if you are going to be interacting with construction workers regularly, learn some Spanish dude. Take some classes at school, it’s not that hard of a language to pick up, especially if you can find people to practice with. It’ll make it easier when you inevitably have to work with some Mexicans or Puerto Ricans or something. Happens all the time here.

This reminds me of someone I met during my internship. (I met a lot of people).
The construction inspector I was shadowed was very out of pocket. He told me that dump truck drivers were dumb. He said all they do is drive trucks and nothing else. On the same day I met a dump truck driver and he was a really cool guy. He had a daughter that went to the same school as me.

The irony is if those dump truck drivers weren’t there, then that firestation wouldn’t have a driveway.

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I really hope I’m not coming off as though it is the only way to go about life! I 100% subscribe to the notion that people should do what makes them happy. I have absolutely no issue if someone chooses to advance on to college.

There is the ability to succeed in so many different ways in life, and having the trades glossed over at a young age seems unfair to a lot of people that could make a good life out of them.

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I have definitely grown curious about philosophy. I had a philosophy course last year as a freshman and I liked it. I remember learning about sisyphus. Something that stuck to my head was absurdism. I also read some of Frantz Fanon’s work in that class.

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I am not a big reader. I would much rather prefer to watch anime and movies. But, for the sake of education and holding intelligent conversations are really good skills to have. I did want to improve my conversation skills. So for the sake of that I’ll start putting in some action.

I been in such a sulky mood today and Im tired of being sulky. Today we study like hell and tomorrow we attack the powerclean!!!

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I’m still waiting on this awesome press session you did lol.

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These taste so much better than the ones I made last time. It’s tender and juicy.

@boilerman

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Don’t know if the conversation is still going that way, but that was @loppar .

He knows a thing or two about these things, I think.

Nice, dude!

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I can’t remember the last time I had a bad training session. That is a great thing.

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Deep Water Intermediate
Week 5
Day 2 of Week 5 (Wednesday of this week)

Strict Press

115 lbs x 18

115 lbs x 13

115 lbs x 11 ( Aggravated lower back)

115 lbs x 10 (Aggravated lower back)

115 lbs x 14

115 lbs x 13

115 lbs x 11

115 lbs x 10

Planks and sit ups

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Deep Water Intermediate
Week 5
Day 3 of Week 5 (Friday of this week)

Power Cleans

135 lbs x 13

135 lbs x 13

135 lbs x 10

135 lbs x 13

135 lbs x 13

135 lbs x 13

135 lbs x 13

135 lbs x 12

Sit ups and Planks

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