I can’t get these students to help themselves. That’s what I’m frustrated at.
I don’t think it’s so easy to get a job after getting just a degree. I just want these students to do more so they have a job after graduating.
But it’s like they don’t care. Idk why
No I totally get it. Just be careful where you let your head go. I have been in a similar situation and I understand the frustration but you can’t force it on other people. If they don’t care they just need a wake up call and that isn’t on you. Just keep offering your help where you can and trust me someday it will be worth it. Especially once you get into a job.
And what I mean by that is people will see that you are working to make the team better instead of just yourself and that goes a long way.
Is the student org required for or otherwise important to graduating?
Is it considered a useful experience that you can put on your resume/CV that can be considered work experience?
Nice deadlifts man! I might’ve missed something or are you going to end up running an extra week on intermediate ? Week 5 is 8 sets to 100
It is?
It just says few sets as possible.
As other have commented, I’d steer clear of this type of mindset.
Not everyone is looking for the same thing in uni. For example, I’m not attending any job fairs or participating in professional orgs like many of my friends bc I’m set on grad school. My mum was actually quite the party girl in uni (complete 180 from how she was in HS).
Quite a few of my friends are in relationships, some aren’t because “that’s not what they’re looking for from their uni experience”
I don’t judge the ones who party for “not being serious” and they don’t judge me for “being under prepared” by not attending job fairs.
What they’re doing shouldn’t concern you too much (unless it’s directly bothering you)
As of right now nothing can really count as work experience but, being active in this organization will look really good at a career fair.
If someone doesn’t already have industry experience in construction management they should get involved in this organization. They shook just take advantage of it to make themselves look better and yk they might learn new things too. I never knew their were so many nice construction management technology related certificates I can find online and my my resume better.
I wish I could get the students work experience but it treads on corporate waters so much. I presented a powerpoint today to someone with a high rank locally about an having an opportunity for the student to gain an internship through participation in the student organization. It’s a like competition and it works if students and construction companies register for it. If companies can’t afford interns then they can be taken off the registration list. There’s more detail to it. It’s just a lot
My idea lowkey got corporately shitted on. They did talk about refining it but honestly idk how you would refine it. It’s always about companies gaining an asset rather than them helping to give these students exposure. I guess the students should help themselves as well but this idea would give an incentive for students to participate in the org. It would have given the org more value.
But you know what. You’re starting to give me ideas. Maybe I can create another version of the one that failed but instead of it being internships it can just be shadowing.
Shadowing is pretty useful
It seems that you haven’t made your org’s value to students clear yet. You mentioned that it’s new.
Not everyone is as dedicated as you. Some might just want to graduate and get it over with.
I’m a BEPO and Econ major. I could do nothing but talk about econ all day. I spent time waiting in package to write an econ model for waiting in line. BUT it’s clear that a lot of the econ majors are like that. Maybe a lot your classmates are the same??
That’s how companies operate. It’s not inherently “bad” or “evil”
Oh no the org isn’t new it’s been around for awhile.
I know the president from 2015
And the previous one before me and I met the one before him once
Apparently attendance was even worse when it was in person rather than on zoom
I am going to refine my original idea and make it involve shadowing.
Companies aren’t taking a risk when it comes to shadowing.
Thanks @magick for jogging that question in my head. A 52 year old student said the same thing which led me to creating that first idea.
This one can’t lose. I mean what do corporations have to lose when it comes to shadowing
That’s brilliant. Good luck!
Thanks anna
I’m also gonna go watch a movie tonight. I need to relax. My head is about to explode.
“Take As Much Rest As You Need. Try to Finish Your Reps in 8 or Less Sets”
It’s written in between the week 4 and week 5 layout. Get it done dude: you will transform.
Wow man you’re right. It really is a different animal.
(I gotta remind myself not to skip over stuff when reading)
@T3hPwnisher Welp another week of intermediate it is.
Lmfao what in the world did I do. I’m laughing right now. I don’t think what I did was in the book at all.
Yup- seems like you have a fair amount going on outside the weight room so I wouldn’t beat yourself up about it. You just got in some extra deadlift practice, and added another week of deepwater fun haha.
It is a mindset changer man. You’ll feel unstoppable after!
Those squats are gonna be hell.
It’s good that you edited your post where you vented! One thing to learn in living in a society- vent privately and where it leaves no permanent record! Be very mindful of what you are leaving a record of.
In all seriousness, I understand that attempting to lead and organize people can quickly get aggravating, but that’s why being in a leadership position is amazingly difficult. It’s one that you have to grow and develop into. Shouting at people is not leadership- getting people to do what you want while being ok with it is good leadership.
I asked those questions because they are probably what serious students who are looking to actually excel at their college education will be asking themselves when they look to join an academic group. If your group has no tangible, whether real or perceived, benefit to join then people won’t join.
Remember what T3hPwnisher and I wrote to you earlier. Focus on those who come and don’t worry about those who don’t. You cannot lead those who don’t care. And if people in the student org feel that you’re doing a good job then it is likely that more people will come just out of word of mouth.
I know nothing about your major and your college, so I can only give general suggestions and thoughts.
Most student orgs don’t mean much on a resume. At worst they literally look like something the applicant wrote on their resume to fill it up with words because they got nothing better to write, especially if they’re not looking for their entry-level job. Getting a 4.0 GPA and graduating with honors matters a lot more than saying you were in a student org linked to your major. In fact, for someone who is fresh out of college, I feel that is about the only important thing. Priority #1 is grades. Priority #3 is internships and work experience. I deliberately skipped #2 because, afaik, it does not exist. If you got a 3.0 GPA and a bunch of internships then you will probably get skipped over by the person who has a 4.0 GPA… because of computer algorithms that toss your resume into the trash bin.
This is dependent on your major though- in some majors and fields you are expected to have something you actually created/developed. My brother was an Industrial Engineering major and he was expected to have actually done some IE work, either through work internship or by working with professors at his college. In those cases you need a 4.0GPA and the expected work experience.
Point being- internships and extracurricular activities tend to be icing on the cake. Companies don’t care about the icing if the cake sucks.
Typically student orgs are a great way to socialize among the people who are in your major, AKA networking. Networking generally is very important. I cannot imagine a single job where networking is not useful in some fashion.
Typically student orgs are a great way for people to learn more about their major/field of study and actually see what career paths exist with that major. A lot of people sleepwalk their way through college and don’t really know what their major is, so it’s good to have resources that help them figure this out. It’s important to think broadly about your career. I feel the worst thing young people can do is limit their thinking in why they’re at college. In a truly great college your student advisors and professors should be able to help you with this. Perhaps consider finding ways to create an easy path between them and the people in your major?
Typically student orgs are a great way to create some sort of link between the real world and your major. I agree that internships will be frowned upon by companies. As you mentioned, most companies are not looking for interns- they are looking for disposable assets who can help them get something done, and they most certainly do not care about the wellbeing of the intern. I agree that shadowing seems a better option, especially if it has no impact on the company. And shadowing is useful to the student if they’re paying attention.
Best of luck. I suggest that you try not to lose your head over this and DW. Your grades matter more!
This isn’t always true. Engineering for example actually cares more about internships than GPA as I found out. Just a word of caution that it might not apply to him.
Edit. I do agree about the org thing though.