I agree. I’d just stick with your regular whey protein or whatever you like and just throw in a few pieces of toast with peanut butter and honey as a snack.
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My main concern is he’s expressed a desire to stick with Deep Water nutrition, in which case the toast and honey would also be non-viable. Although outside of Deep Water I think that’s a stellar choice.
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Absolutely makes sense, I don’t know anything about it that program and what nutrition it calls for. I just assumed he wanted to get some more calories in! Thanks for clarifying!
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I’m not sure if most of the ingredients in the mass gainer are deep water compliant to begin with
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They aren’t. That’s what I’m getting at.
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My diet has been pretty great. Tuna, salmon, ground turkey, and chicken. I am a bit inconsistent with the fats so figured a mass gainer would help get extra calories.
In other words I got lazy.
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peanut butter??
even the natural, no sugar/oil ones are quite affordable
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It’s primary ingredient is maltodextrin. That’s just corn sugar. Lazy is fine: get some instant oatmeal and honey. I take a “Deep Mountain” nutrition approach: if it’s not Deep Water, have it be Mountain Dog.
Or hell, be lazy with the fats and get some almond butter.
I used the exact same gainer at your age, so I’m not one to be holier than thou about it. Moreso wanting to help keep you on the path you want to be on.
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So it’s something similar to corn syrup? That is not good.
Similar in the sense that they are corn products, but differently isolated.
It’s a cheap filler carb. You can just buy it straight off amazon if you’re really wanting it. It’s popular with gainers because being so high on the GI means it’s not satiating, so you can take in 1000 calories and still be hungry, but that can also mess up your guts pretty good.
I wouldn’t feel right discussing other supplement companies on this website, but there are only 2 I know of that make a gainer that isn’t based on Maltodextrin. For the most part, though, you can DIY gainers with oats, milk, nut butters and anything else that strikes your fancy.
I still talk about this “meal” I made when we lost power and I was working all day to get my home in a good state and get a power generator from the next town over. Hadn’t eaten all day, had no power, had no fridge. Grabbed a can of chicken breast, dumped it in a bowl with an avocado and a BIG dollop of sunbutter. Covered it in salt and ate it in about 3 minutes. TONS of fat, protein and calories.
You’re doing awesome dude. Using this gainer isn’t the worst thing in the world, but if you CAN return it and use those funds for something else, that’d be more awesome.
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I appreciate the write up Pwn! I’d rather not put anymore of that corn stuff into my body so I’ll use up this container and go back to my regular gold standard whey.
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Hard Conditioning
20 Rounds (1:00 minute rounds) of
5 Burpees
5 Goblet Squats (50 lb dumbbell)
AMRAP Muscle Clean and Press (115 lbs)
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I remember throughout high school I was buddies with my history teacher I had freshman year. He was kind of a football prodigy until he got injured. I remember one time I trained with him in the weight room.
He put me on some training program that was used by Penn State football team to get athletes bigger. I vaguely remember the program but it’s volume was similar to Deep Water. It was a hard training scheme.
Past is the past but I lowkey want to punch myself in the nuts for not following it. I think around that time I was doing nonsense in the weight room and outside of it lol. He even told me to eat lots of whole foods and to ditch protein shakes.
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For some reason that reminded me about a story Jim Wendler wrote about a guy who squatted and benched 315 for 10x10. That was it.
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Hey has anyone ever used deadlift socks before. I’m getting sick of my right shin bleeding.
I have a while back. I used them a few times but ended up trashing them because the bar kept rolling them down when I would lower it.
I always figured the bleeding would stop at a certain point after your shins get conditioned. Once a week scraping a knurled piece of metal up and down them must not be enough haha.
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5/3/1 PR sets and Widowmakers
Deadlift
285 lbs x 5
325 lbs x 5
365 lbs x 8
365 lbs x 10
Deadlift Widowmaker
285 lbs x 20
Strict Press
105 lbs x 5
120 lbs x 5
135 lbs x 9
Deadlift - 225 lbs - 50 reps
Strict Press - 80 lbs - 100 reps
Pull-ups - Bodyweight - 5 sets AMRAP
Dumbbell Strict Press (Forgot the Widowmaker)
60 lb dumbbells x 13
Easy Conditioning
Treadmill Walk - Max Incline - 2.5 speed - 10 Minutes
Training was fantastic today except for the deadlift pr set since I redid it. Clearly there is a little confidence issue with deadlifts. I have to get into the habit of attacking the weight explosively and aggressively.
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Yup. Love them. But honestly, any knee high socks will do. You can also put knee sleeves over your shins, but I find them rather sticky
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Hello Hepsy, what brand did you buy?
I have these, but the old version. I don’t think they sell them anymore. There is nothing special about them but they do the job.
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