Tips for Improving Pull-Up Numbers...

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[quote]desolator wrote:

[quote]austin_bicep wrote:

[quote]desolator wrote:

[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
Train them like you would trying to gain on any other exercise. Weighted pull-ups help a ton.[/quote]

It’s not exactly the same wanting to improve repetitions above 15-20 on one exercise and trying just to raise the one repetition max. One can chin-up with his entire weight extra added, but that doesn’t automatically mean that he can do 30+ bodyweight reps. Max weight effort and max rep effort use entirely different energy sources and don’t demand the same training.[/quote]

Are you fucking kidding me bro? Increase your 1 RM by 50-100 pounds and your telling me the reps on all lower weights won’t increase when you are considerably stronger? GTFO[/quote]

You don’t have the right to tell me to get out, since you don’t own this forum AFAIK. And chill out, don’t you have other things to do in real life than getting mad to some random guy on the internet on a discussion about weight training?

And now to answer your “arguement”. If someone has a 14RM and increases his weighted pullup by 50 lbs, of course his bodyweight reps will increase. The thing that you are insufficient to understand though is that, at about 20-25 reps, increasing your maximum strength won’t always increase the bodyweight reps, or AT LEAST, they will increase slower than a direct high rep training program.[/quote]

I can easily do that many pull-ups, (20-25) and the numbers increased the most when I was doing weighted variations…

The bigger my bench has gotten the more reps of 225 I can do and that number is over 20 reps, and no I don’t train for that shit directly either…

And yeah it does piss me off a little bit when I tell someone to do something that will work and you, who clealry knows everything, which is the way you come off in all your posts, tells me that my way of doing it really isn’t too good for the task at hand, but you are wrong.

Anyways people around here can’t handle someone with above average levels of test, I get a hot head quickly, but only when appropriate.

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He said that he wanted just to increase his numbers at pullups, not his weighted max. I am sorry, you can ramble, turning your head completely red with veins popping of by anger, but unfortunately still that won’t make it, my way will still be better than yours. Upping the reps when you are in the 16+ range is done quicker when training just for that.

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Sadly, improving my conditioning has helped. I’m pretty winded around 18-20.

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[quote]desolator wrote:
He said that he wanted just to increase his numbers at pullups, not his weighted max. I am sorry, you can ramble, turning your head completely red with veins popping of by anger, but unfortunately still that won’t make it, my way will still be better than yours. Upping the reps when you are in the 16+ range is done quicker when training just for that.[/quote]

I am sorry it’s so hard for you to understand that an increased max and increased reps at a lower weight are directly correlated.

Didn’t realize common sense was so hard to grasp, again, increasing his pull up max, will indeed increase the amount of pull ups he will be able to do at BW.

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Idk, dude that can do 55 BW pullups regularly trains with added resitence on the same exercise. I will follow his methods.

anyways y’all can whatever you want.

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Repeat again after me:
Strength increases, YES, will yield benefits in repetition effort, but the effects diminish after ~16-20 reps.

Strength increases, YES, will yield benefits in repetition effort, but the effects diminish after ~16-20 reps.

Strength increases, YES, will yield benefits in repetition effort, but the effects diminish after ~16-20 reps.

Strength increases, YES, will yield benefits in repetition effort, but the effects diminish after ~16-20 reps.

By the way, if you thing those kipping pullups have any relation to proper pullups, then you seem to lack common sense.

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Also, to answer to your video, those are proper pull ups. I h ardly imagine this guy deadlifts anything close to 405 heh.

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Nevermind, best of luck with your training bro, could give two shits about this debate anyways.

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“could give two shits about this debate anyways” So that’s why you got so red-headed at the beginning? Anyways, I can understand that maybe you became offended from the start, my point was not to call you out wrong, just that I THINK that my method should work better. So we have different opinions, that doesn’t mean we have to argue untill someone proves that his point is better. As for my training, of course I train like the way you suggested, because I want to increase my max (bw reps are at around 15). Buuuuuut, if I would want to increase them for some dumb reason, you can guess which method I would choose, :stuck_out_tongue:

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As i said, we still need to hear from pimpbot. If his random goal is just to be able to do more pullups, whatever. but if he wants to add size, This nonsense will not help. In response to the twig doing 77 pullups, Cool story, Bro. yea i could do 50+ pullups if i weighed a buck 30. Could i do twenty right now? Who knows, but im sure as hell not going to waste my time trying to find out. i do know i can perform a solid 8 w/350lbs, and THAT will produce a lot more in terms of results than mindlessly “going through the motions.” I equate that to sitting on a leg press and pumping out presses with a whopping 50lbs. You know why youll quit eventually? Not because your muscles are tired or you cant do anymore because you’re all “repped out,” but its because your muscles give up on you. Quad Talking to Hamstring: Quad- “Dude, this is retarded. Im going on strike.” Hamstring- “Yea, F*** this, lets hit up a titty bar.” End set.

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Like it’s pretty much been said, I don’t understand aiming for so many reps.
#1, like with anything else; when we start doing 15-20 of any exercise with ease, that usually means to bump up the weight by A LOT.
I would think that the same rule applies to pull ups and dips and other BW stuff.
#2, I’m thinking that this higher pull-up goal is more for ego than anything else. As a female, I really won’t be impressed by someone doing pull ups for 30+ reps. But nothing’s hotter than someone adding weight to pull ups and even getting 5 reps.
Anyway, if it’s an ego thing, really not worth working so hard to raise the BW pull up number.
If it’s not for an ego thing, then I really can’t imagine why it’s such a big deal in the first place.

As for desolator, “my way is better than yours” is a terrible argument and a bit grade school.

My .02

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[quote]Akuma01 wrote:
As i said, we still need to hear from pimpbot. If his random goal is just to be able to do more pullups, whatever. but if he wants to add size, This nonsense will not help. In response to the twig doing 77 pullups, Cool story, Bro. yea i could do 50+ pullups if i weighed a buck 30. Could i do twenty right now? Who knows, but im sure as hell not going to waste my time trying to find out. i do know i can perform a solid 8 w/350lbs, and THAT will produce a lot more in terms of results than mindlessly “going through the motions.” I equate that to sitting on a leg press and pumping out presses with a whopping 50lbs. You know why youll quit eventually? Not because your muscles are tired or you cant do anymore because you’re all “repped out,” but its because your muscles give up on you. Quad Talking to Hamstring: Quad- “Dude, this is retarded. Im going on strike.” Hamstring- “Yea, F*** this, lets hit up a titty bar.” End set.[/quote]

When you mentioned “i do know i can perform a solid 8 w/350lbs” do you mean bent-over rows? And that would be better for back size? If you’ve got a “Back” thread similar to “Legs” I’ll go look for it. Thanks.

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[quote]XanderBuilt wrote:

[quote]Akuma01 wrote:
As i said, we still need to hear from pimpbot. If his random goal is just to be able to do more pullups, whatever. but if he wants to add size, This nonsense will not help. In response to the twig doing 77 pullups, Cool story, Bro. yea i could do 50+ pullups if i weighed a buck 30. Could i do twenty right now? Who knows, but im sure as hell not going to waste my time trying to find out. i do know i can perform a solid 8 w/350lbs, and THAT will produce a lot more in terms of results than mindlessly “going through the motions.” I equate that to sitting on a leg press and pumping out presses with a whopping 50lbs. You know why youll quit eventually? Not because your muscles are tired or you cant do anymore because you’re all “repped out,” but its because your muscles give up on you. Quad Talking to Hamstring: Quad- “Dude, this is retarded. Im going on strike.” Hamstring- “Yea, F*** this, lets hit up a titty bar.” End set.[/quote]

When you mentioned “i do know i can perform a solid 8 w/350lbs” do you mean bent-over rows? And that would be better for back size? If you’ve got a “Back” thread similar to “Legs” I’ll go look for it. Thanks.[/quote]

I think the only bodyparts Akuma didn’t make a thread for was wrists and ankles.

Very informative though Akuma, love ya! :slight_smile:

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[quote]XanderBuilt wrote:

[quote]Akuma01 wrote:
As i said, we still need to hear from pimpbot. If his random goal is just to be able to do more pullups, whatever. but if he wants to add size, This nonsense will not help. In response to the twig doing 77 pullups, Cool story, Bro. yea i could do 50+ pullups if i weighed a buck 30. Could i do twenty right now? Who knows, but im sure as hell not going to waste my time trying to find out. i do know i can perform a solid 8 w/350lbs, and THAT will produce a lot more in terms of results than mindlessly “going through the motions.” I equate that to sitting on a leg press and pumping out presses with a whopping 50lbs. You know why youll quit eventually? Not because your muscles are tired or you cant do anymore because you’re all “repped out,” but its because your muscles give up on you. Quad Talking to Hamstring: Quad- “Dude, this is retarded. Im going on strike.” Hamstring- “Yea, F*** this, lets hit up a titty bar.” End set.[/quote]

When you mentioned “i do know i can perform a solid 8 w/350lbs” do you mean bent-over rows? And that would be better for back size? If you’ve got a “Back” thread similar to “Legs” I’ll go look for it. Thanks.[/quote]

No, im talking Pullups. I weigh 260, i throw 2 45lb plates onto my dip belt, and i pull-thefuck-up. THATS a pullup, son! Ill start throwing 3 on in the next upcoming weeks.

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[quote]Nikki9591 wrote:

[quote]XanderBuilt wrote:

[quote]Akuma01 wrote:
As i said, we still need to hear from pimpbot. If his random goal is just to be able to do more pullups, whatever. but if he wants to add size, This nonsense will not help. In response to the twig doing 77 pullups, Cool story, Bro. yea i could do 50+ pullups if i weighed a buck 30. Could i do twenty right now? Who knows, but im sure as hell not going to waste my time trying to find out. i do know i can perform a solid 8 w/350lbs, and THAT will produce a lot more in terms of results than mindlessly “going through the motions.” I equate that to sitting on a leg press and pumping out presses with a whopping 50lbs. You know why youll quit eventually? Not because your muscles are tired or you cant do anymore because you’re all “repped out,” but its because your muscles give up on you. Quad Talking to Hamstring: Quad- “Dude, this is retarded. Im going on strike.” Hamstring- “Yea, F*** this, lets hit up a titty bar.” End set.[/quote]

When you mentioned “i do know i can perform a solid 8 w/350lbs” do you mean bent-over rows? And that would be better for back size? If you’ve got a “Back” thread similar to “Legs” I’ll go look for it. Thanks.[/quote]

I think the only bodyparts Akuma didn’t make a thread for was wrists and ankles.

Very informative though Akuma, love ya! :)[/quote]

Cool :slight_smile: TY. They should really be stickied. I think it’s useful for all lifters to read.

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[quote]Akuma01 wrote:

[quote]XanderBuilt wrote:

[quote]Akuma01 wrote:
As i said, we still need to hear from pimpbot. If his random goal is just to be able to do more pullups, whatever. but if he wants to add size, This nonsense will not help. In response to the twig doing 77 pullups, Cool story, Bro. yea i could do 50+ pullups if i weighed a buck 30. Could i do twenty right now? Who knows, but im sure as hell not going to waste my time trying to find out. i do know i can perform a solid 8 w/350lbs, and THAT will produce a lot more in terms of results than mindlessly “going through the motions.” I equate that to sitting on a leg press and pumping out presses with a whopping 50lbs. You know why youll quit eventually? Not because your muscles are tired or you cant do anymore because you’re all “repped out,” but its because your muscles give up on you. Quad Talking to Hamstring: Quad- “Dude, this is retarded. Im going on strike.” Hamstring- “Yea, F*** this, lets hit up a titty bar.” End set.[/quote]

When you mentioned “i do know i can perform a solid 8 w/350lbs” do you mean bent-over rows? And that would be better for back size? If you’ve got a “Back” thread similar to “Legs” I’ll go look for it. Thanks.[/quote]

No, im talking Pullups. I weigh 260, i throw 2 45lb plates onto my dip belt, and i pull-thefuck-up. THATS a pullup, son! Ill start throwing 3 on in the next upcoming weeks.
[/quote]

Oh man, that’s intimidating. And something to Strive for.

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[quote]XanderBuilt wrote:

[quote]Nikki9591 wrote:

[quote]XanderBuilt wrote:

[quote]Akuma01 wrote:
As i said, we still need to hear from pimpbot. If his random goal is just to be able to do more pullups, whatever. but if he wants to add size, This nonsense will not help. In response to the twig doing 77 pullups, Cool story, Bro. yea i could do 50+ pullups if i weighed a buck 30. Could i do twenty right now? Who knows, but im sure as hell not going to waste my time trying to find out. i do know i can perform a solid 8 w/350lbs, and THAT will produce a lot more in terms of results than mindlessly “going through the motions.” I equate that to sitting on a leg press and pumping out presses with a whopping 50lbs. You know why youll quit eventually? Not because your muscles are tired or you cant do anymore because you’re all “repped out,” but its because your muscles give up on you. Quad Talking to Hamstring: Quad- “Dude, this is retarded. Im going on strike.” Hamstring- “Yea, F*** this, lets hit up a titty bar.” End set.[/quote]

When you mentioned “i do know i can perform a solid 8 w/350lbs” do you mean bent-over rows? And that would be better for back size? If you’ve got a “Back” thread similar to “Legs” I’ll go look for it. Thanks.[/quote]

I think the only bodyparts Akuma didn’t make a thread for was wrists and ankles.

Very informative though Akuma, love ya! :)[/quote]

Cool :slight_smile: TY. They should really be stickied. I think it’s useful for all lifters to read.[/quote]

My Bodypart threads havent been deemed as keepers, unfortunately =(

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[quote]desolator wrote:
Repeat again after me:
Strength increases, YES, will yield benefits in repetition effort, but the effects diminish after ~16-20 reps.

Strength increases, YES, will yield benefits in repetition effort, but the effects diminish after ~16-20 reps.

Strength increases, YES, will yield benefits in repetition effort, but the effects diminish after ~16-20 reps.

Strength increases, YES, will yield benefits in repetition effort, but the effects diminish after ~16-20 reps.
[/quote]

Prove this shit. You sound mildly retarded.

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uhh not to stray off topic, but Someone HAS to take notice of my Hamstring/Quad conversation. come the fuck on guys, that was genius right there…

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[quote]Akuma01 wrote:

[quote]XanderBuilt wrote:

[quote]Nikki9591 wrote:

[quote]XanderBuilt wrote:

[quote]Akuma01 wrote:
As i said, we still need to hear from pimpbot. If his random goal is just to be able to do more pullups, whatever. but if he wants to add size, This nonsense will not help. In response to the twig doing 77 pullups, Cool story, Bro. yea i could do 50+ pullups if i weighed a buck 30. Could i do twenty right now? Who knows, but im sure as hell not going to waste my time trying to find out. i do know i can perform a solid 8 w/350lbs, and THAT will produce a lot more in terms of results than mindlessly “going through the motions.” I equate that to sitting on a leg press and pumping out presses with a whopping 50lbs. You know why youll quit eventually? Not because your muscles are tired or you cant do anymore because you’re all “repped out,” but its because your muscles give up on you. Quad Talking to Hamstring: Quad- “Dude, this is retarded. Im going on strike.” Hamstring- “Yea, F*** this, lets hit up a titty bar.” End set.[/quote]

When you mentioned “i do know i can perform a solid 8 w/350lbs” do you mean bent-over rows? And that would be better for back size? If you’ve got a “Back” thread similar to “Legs” I’ll go look for it. Thanks.[/quote]

I think the only bodyparts Akuma didn’t make a thread for was wrists and ankles.

Very informative though Akuma, love ya! :)[/quote]

Cool :slight_smile: TY. They should really be stickied. I think it’s useful for all lifters to read.[/quote]

My Bodypart threads havent been deemed as keepers, unfortunately =(
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They are worthy IMHO - I’m quite certain your posts would make a stand alone Blog. Unfortunately other good threads like “C_C, How do you train?” is also not stickied.