kinda random, but with your neck what kind of pillow do you use?
I’m shopping this weekend.
Oh and killer training…thats good you know when to take a break from stuff and actually DO IT.
WTF are “disco fries”???
Damn, lot’s of great work. LOL @ Kettle Queer. Pain sucks and I hope you figure it out soon.
Interesting about the ankle and foot relation to knee pain. I need to learn more about that.
james
Just wanted to mention that I felt a twinge (did not turn into pain fortunately) in the bad elbow the other day; it was after a max rep set of DB rows. Hmmm. I’ve been doing mostly 1-arm cable rows (standing for the “functional”, yeah brah) lately, maybe that was another reason my elbow has been so good lately?
p.s. Yes, completed the 21 DL reps, not including the awesome stumbling-back one. Next session, 335 lbs.
in my case if it doesn’t get done in the gym, it doesn’t get done.
nice work putting in the extra time at home.
Just thinking re: elbow and pull ups. I did my fat grip pull ups with a thumbless grip yesterday and my elbow felt fantastic. I think that might be the key to being able to do pull ups without the associated pain. Just a thought.
james
mascherano- thank you I cant make you look bad if I tried
ms.trainsevndaysaweekwhilerehabbing
Matty
Disco fries ftw??
fries and gravy not my thing
actually gravy not really my thing
thanks for the props bro
I need to do more- Im feeling all holiday extended bloat
frenchi- thank you too for the props
Lexi- yes gym is full of johnny big bench ( hammer strength) resolutionists
james and PG-
the elbow pain Is somewhat work related
and mosty likely pullups I have looked back I do something like 40 to 70
once or twice a week
Im on a pullup and row deload for a while
fals grip pullups- hmmm I do them sometimes when I am doing nuetral grip
PG that is good living getting that 315x21
james- you asked about ankle foot knee issues-
my feet over pronate and rotate out
and it causes a bowed out ankle-
my ankles have always been problematic
and I think those issues manifest in both knee and hip issues
will post training in a separate thread
it is very pleasing to read all this e-support
1.16.12
training this am
PVC at home extensively
Mobility
Activation
HLR x oh squat @95 xFace pull xTricep rope thing 4x10
A Anderson front squat
135x5 185x5 225 3x1 245 2x1 245 2x1
B bb front squat reverse lunge
135 4x8
C Speed pull 225 5x1 315 5x1 405x1x1
D Air hump off bench
135x10 225x6 225x6
HLR feet to face
3x10
Spin bike tabata 8x20/10
Notes
Cold and stiff
Anderson’s wow with the rack available these kind of suck Its not a power cage no pin adjustment
Here it’s basically starting ATG
Needs work
Lunges fun
Speed pull 5 quick singles each two less speedy singles at 405 all hook grip
Air humps did these off a bench much better glute contraction
FTW better humps!!!
Sweet on the Andersons… they are tough to do. Johnny Big Bench… you really do keep me in stiches.
I heard you wanted some hecklers. Here I am.
Heckle heckle
heckle
[quote]nlmain wrote:
in my case if it doesn’t get done in the gym, it doesn’t get done.
nice work putting in the extra time at home.[/quote]
Same here.
I only did the Andersons 1 time, after watching our Mashy, loved them!
I do the Duo train thing myself, theres no room for Dls where I go, so i start at home then finish at the gym.
Sorry if i confused your brain in Mattys log, hehe ok …no Im not 
Wilson- nice to see you here-
Jonny big bench is my fav guy at the gym
peaches- wow not only hecklers but bamf
smarty cute hecklers
I have to keep at doing stuff- shit doesnt get done by itself
Up- I might need to re-read that passage in Matty’s log again :)))
I like the andersons - just not at this gym- I cant get a decent set up
can I say - air humps off a bench left me with the most intense soreness in the keister
Dude not even fries with some Mozarella Cheese? Its awesome! Got a young guys log that I follow, Spart4tee, he did an 855 Anderson Squat…the kid is freaky strong!
[quote]kmcnyc wrote:
can I say - air humps off a bench left me with the most intense soreness in the keister[/quote]
I just added these, and they are why my log is mostly filled with me bitching about DOMs lately. Just think though, one day, maybe, we can have epic Maschy asses!
matty cheeze fries - maybe.
Im more a vinegar and salt fry guy
I have peeped spar4tee and bigben both kids are craa
Peaches2- air humps are the bisness pls post pics of said glutes.
mmmmmmm Maschy Asses
MASCHY ASSES
ok training today
1.17.12
upper stuff
pvc lx ball at home extensive-
mo mobility shit at gym
1500m row 6.18
A push press OHP 65x10 , 95x5, 135x5, pp 155x3, 185x3,3,3, 205x0 135x6, 185x3x3 135x5
B1 db bench flat 80x5 ,90x4, 100 3x2
B2 low pulley vgrip row 5x10
C1 javelin press 20x20,30x15,15,14
C2 curl to press 60x8,40x12,50x8
D reverse curls 40 x 2x20
TRX 4 rounds facepulls, fallouts inverted row, pushup, face pulls more shit 5-10 reps
Notes
No pullups
no bb rows
lameness
I think lots of things stress the elbows- like cleans , front squats, push presses
maybe its time for sleeves and big vats of blue ice shit - again.
damn.
cable rows- so much better then HS stuffs
bench- I guess you can tell I dont do it much
curls and crap seem to help get the elbow ok
it all needs work
thanks for reading
[quote]kmcnyc wrote:
matty cheeze fries - maybe.
Im more a vinegar and salt fry guy
I have peeped spar4tee and bigben both kids are craa
Peaches2- air humps are the bisness pls post pics of said glutes.
mmmmmmm Maschy Asses
MASCHY ASSES
ok training today
1.17.12
upper stuff
pvc lx ball at home extensive-
mo mobility shit at gym
1500m row 6.18
A push press OHP 65x10 , 95x5, 135x5, pp 155x3, 185x3,3,3, 205x0 135x6, 185x3x3 135x5
B1 db bench flat 80x5 ,90x4, 100 3x2
B2 low pulley vgrip row 5x10
C1 javelin press 20x20,30x15,15,14
C2 curl to press 60x8,40x12,50x8
D reverse curls 40 x 2x20
TRX 4 rounds facepulls, fallouts inverted row, pushup, face pulls more shit 5-10 reps
Notes
No pullups
no bb rows
lameness
I think lots of things stress the elbows- like cleans , front squats, push presses
maybe its time for sleeves and big vats of blue ice shit - again.
damn.
cable rows- so much better then HS stuffs
bench- I guess you can tell I dont do it much
curls and crap seem to help get the elbow ok
it all needs work
thanks for reading[/quote]
I think you feel the Cable rows better because the tension is constantly pulling AWAY in the same direction you’re trying to pull. Most of the HS machines have some kind of arc which IMO reduces tension at given points within the ROM.
And DB Benching 100’s is nothing to shake your passy fat at!
I’ve been rolling my elbow on a golf ball. Seems to be helping somewhat.
good work. i love my elbow sleeves, get used every session. and salt and vinegar fries, hmmm might have to hit up a fish and chip place this weekend
[quote]ddot76 wrote:
And DB Benching 100’s is nothing to shake your passy fat at!
[/quote]
This needs to be made into a meme.
I agree though, that’s solid DB pressing.
Fish and chips sound good…there’s a pub just down the street and the family is out of town this weekend…hmmmm…
james
FISH AND CHIP
passy fat?
I hope that was a typo we all know cursing here
is the norm you fuckin fuck eh?
ddot thanks man I get killed using anything over say - 90 too awkward to get into position to bench
I think you are right cables do have constant load-
but I find they vary- the number of pulleys makes the difference
PeteS I think I need to spring for both elbow and knee sleeves
do you have rehaband the neophrene style or the nylon types
James maybe one of our friends can help with the meme.
maybe
a few things I am thinking about
I weighed 193 in gym clothes two days in a row.
I thinking its just holiday bloat-
yes I show abs for the most part Id like to be a bit leaner
but my back , glutes , thighs and hams are all bigger
shoulders too
193 is awful close to 200lbs.
what to do?
seriously.
and I am thinking of something like Sheiko.
uh oh.
more like this 3x3 routine from stephan Korte
3 lifts 3 days a week
two basic phases
squat bench dead something like 50 to 60% for 8x5 8x6 for bench
for four weeks
then more like
squat bench dead higher percentages 80 85 90
for 3x3,2x1 etc
I can squat- if I do low bar- high bar and my neck are not friends
and I looked thru the bench numbers and at that low a percentage I could probably do it
hmmm
but I do like my accessory work.
but I am taking too too long in the gym
and am tired of figuring out programing myself.
531 bored me to tears
and the money sets got to be to much on squat and DL
I do like front squats HLR glute bridges and cleans and shit too.
Pls weigh in.
wait a sec - did I turn this into a cut or bulk thread?
How about Madcow 5x5, personally I like the progression and you set the max lifts, so in your case benching heavy causes discomfort so you can set it light so the progression will not get heavy where it will effect you adversely.
On top of that, to me 3 exercises for 5 sets is not enough volume so while this may be bastardizing the program a bit, you do have room to add the assistance exercises that both you and me love. Im in the same boat as you my sessions have gone up to about 2 hours which is way too long, I shouldnt be in the gym for more than 90 minutes tops.
If you follow Madcow to a tee youll be in and out quick, you add some super sets and and two assistance movements it will kick your ass and satisfy both the main movements and doing the assistance stuff you like.
Tomorrow for example: DLs, OH Press and Front Squat, Ill also add in some weighted chins and a DB inclines. Im fucking shot after it. Ill SS some decline situps in between deads to activate my core and hip flexors.
Friday will be back squats, Flat Bench and BB Row, Ill add in a direct Tri movement and SS WG Pullups between the beginning bench sets. For me its pretty intense and all the while your making strength gains in an easy to follow linear fashion.
my .02
Madcow is definitely a really good program and I saw the most gains from it. I was also new to lifting when I did it so there’s probably a correlation there. It’s a really tough program but so is Sheiko and so is Korte. But if 5/3/1 bored you then wouldn’t you get bored with Madcow, Sheiko, or Korte? I mean those are all about the main lift and less about the accessory work.
Damn, you’re looking for a program that has a lot of variety but also gets you out of the gym quicker. You could always cut your rest periods down to 30 seconds to a minute. That doesn’t help your strength but it does get you out of the gym quickly.
You definitely need to figure out what your goals are first. Then pick a program to fit those goals. Sorry, that probably wasn’t too helpful…
james