Tiger Woods, Anti-Marriage Posterboy

I used to think marriage was an evil, love-killing social convention, something to be avoided at all costs. I thought it was an outdated institution that was demeaning to women, constraining to men, and would suck the love and honesty out of any relationship.

Most people are against marriage, because of the negative legal constraints that go along with signing the license, like shared money and property rights. This can really put a stank on any love relationship, that’s why Yo Daddy and I didn’t get married until we were together 15 years and had 3 kids.

But along with the negatives, there are positive benefits to being married. Here is a list of reasons why I finally decided to get married:

Tax Benefits
Filing joint income tax returns with the IRS and state taxing authorities.
Creating a “family partnership” under federal tax laws, which allows you to divide business income among family members.

Estate Planning Benefits
Inheriting a share of your spouse’s estate.
Receiving an exemption from both estate taxes and gift taxes for all property you give or leave to your spouse.
Creating life estate trusts that are restricted to married couples, including QTIP trusts, QDOT trusts, and marital deduction trusts.
Obtaining priority if a conservator needs to be appointed for your spouse – that is, someone to make financial and/or medical decisions on your spouse’s behalf.

Government Benefits
Receiving Social Security, Medicare, and disability benefits for spouses.
Receiving veterans’ and military benefits for spouses, such as those for education, medical care, or special loans.
Receiving public assistance benefits.

Employment Benefits
Obtaining insurance benefits through a spouse’s employer.
Taking family leave to care for your spouse during an illness.
Receiving wages, workers’ compensation, and retirement plan benefits for a deceased spouse.
Taking bereavement leave if your spouse or one of your spouse’s close relatives dies.

Medical Benefits
Visiting your spouse in a hospital intensive care unit or during restricted visiting hours in other parts of a medical facility.
Making medical decisions for your spouse if he or she becomes incapacitated and unable to express wishes for treatment.

Death Benefits
Consenting to after-death examinations and procedures.
Making burial or other final arrangements.

Family Benefits
Filing for stepparent or joint adoption.
Applying for joint foster care rights.
Receiving equitable division of property if you divorce.
Receiving spousal or child support, child custody, and visitation if you divorce.

Housing Benefits
Living in neighborhoods zoned for “families only.”
Automatically renewing leases signed by your spouse.

Consumer Benefits
Receiving family rates for health, homeowners’, auto, and other types of insurance.
Receiving tuition discounts and permission to use school facilities.
Other consumer discounts and incentives offered only to married couples or families.

Other Legal Benefits and Protections
Suing a third person for wrongful death of your spouse and loss of consortium (loss of intimacy).
Suing a third person for offenses that interfere with the success of your marriage, such as alienation of affection and criminal conversation (these laws are available in only a few states).
Claiming the marital communications privilege, which means a court can’t force you to disclose the contents of confidential communications between you and your spouse during your marriage.
Receiving crime victims’ recovery benefits if your spouse is the victim of a crime.
Obtaining immigration and residency benefits for noncitizen spouse.
Visiting rights in jails and other places where visitors are restricted to immediate family.

Yo Daddy and I made a promise to each other a long time ago that doesn’t need a license to make it real. Anybody who needs a ring to prove their love is setting a trap.

Tiger got married for show. Any man who enjoys fucking lots and lots of women can never be happy with one. Nothing wrong with that, as long as you’re honest with yourself. But he lied to Elin and he lied to himself, thinking he could have it both ways. So now there are 4 ruined lives in the wake of dishonesty. How could Elin NOT know about all these women? It takes a lot of time out of a man’s life to fuck that many women, what did she think he was doing, going to the hardware store? A family gone to hell on false pretenses.

[quote]RSGZ wrote:

Unstable, you say?

I don’t see it.[/quote]

That certainly is a horrific picture of young Ms. Spears.

I think we’ve found a suitable monster for “The Descent 3”

[quote]Yo Momma wrote:

Tiger got married for show. Any man who enjoys fucking lots and lots of women can never be happy with one. Nothing wrong with that, as long as you’re honest with yourself. But he lied to Elin and he lied to himself, thinking he could have it both ways. So now there are 4 ruined lives in the wake of dishonesty. How could Elin NOT know about all these women? It takes a lot of time out of a man’s life to fuck that many women, what did she think he was doing, going to the hardware store? A family gone to hell on false pretenses.[/quote]

Well said. Something is wrong on that end and I am wondering why more don’t question it. You don’t screw that many women WITH A WIFE AT HOME without her knowing SOMETHING unless she was so inattentive that it is no wonder he looked for love elsewhere.

I mean, seriously, that means he was married to someone who literally didn’t know shit about him…and she was ok with this it seemed until word got out.

There isn’t a man alive who can lie THAT much and that well to someone who supposedly knows them well enough to say “I love you”.

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
I still don’t feel sorry for him. It wasn’t like his dick held a gun to his head. He made his choices while under a pre-nup. He knew the rules (as unfair as they seem). He knew the risks but continued in is lifestyle. This is an age where accountability seems to have disappeared, or so it seems in some of your minds.
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I can only agree with you to a limited degree…because I have never been one to simply blame one party without thinking the other did something wrong too.

Question, what kind of “attentive wife” can overlook THAT much side play?

I could see if this was ONE affair that could be easily hidden…but Tiger is either a fucking genius when it comes to covering his tracks, she knew in the first place but only got pissed and bailed once the story started getting out, or she was one clueless woman who wasn’t giving HIM enough attention.

I don’t think there is another option.[/quote]

Wellll, We are not talking about the average JOE. This is Tiger WOODS. He travels all over the world and has the money to get all the poonany he wants and keep it on the low. So I can see how he could keep it from her.

Tiger Simply got married to soon. Did you guys even look at that clip with him and his dad on the Late Show. He was 2yrs old. This guy has been training for this his whole life. He makes it to the top his pops who was with him from the start passes and he goes buck wild.

Lets be honest you don’t see any teenage or pre-Rich Wood HO’s popping out of the woodwork. This is all women from the same time period of a couple years. He went buck wild and maybe should have. The only problem was he was under contract with the MRS.
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Well, let’s be honest…we live in a society that basically protests that any man in the public eye without a “significant other” must be unstable, insane, or gay. I for one thought MOST celebrity marriages were either fake or done for publicity. That is why they never last. I am SHOCKED Brad Pitt and Angelina Joli are still together (are they?).

Because of that, it isn’t so off the wall that someone like that felt they NEEDED to be married…especially if he was raised that way.

But yeah, he fucked up.

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
I still don’t feel sorry for him. It wasn’t like his dick held a gun to his head. He made his choices while under a pre-nup. He knew the rules (as unfair as they seem). He knew the risks but continued in is lifestyle. This is an age where accountability seems to have disappeared, or so it seems in some of your minds.
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It’s not that accountability has disappeared, it’s that the system fucks men. My wife cheated on me and I STILL lost half my shit. How was my accountability lacking? It’s not an equal contract. The statutory laws on the books are SO skewed against men it’s not even funny. This OBVIOUS fact which is commonly known and accepted is part of the problem because if you do anything to balance things out, you are labeled a misogynist.

Look at the flack that people get for “suggesting a disadvantage to men”. We are perceived as assholes, labeled as selfish, and our accountability is called into question. How does being smart and seeing an OBVIOUS inequity in the law and recognizing a significant statistical risk make me less than accountable?

The fact is that 90% of the married men that I talk to would cut off body parts to trade places with me. Then there are the 10% who are truly happy (you, skynett, V, etc…) and to you guys I wish you ALL THE BEST. But don’t judge me or question my integrity and accountability for making a choice based on facts and personal experience. That doesn’t make me an evil misogynist! LOL

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
I still don’t feel sorry for him. It wasn’t like his dick held a gun to his head. He made his choices while under a pre-nup. He knew the rules (as unfair as they seem). He knew the risks but continued in is lifestyle. This is an age where accountability seems to have disappeared, or so it seems in some of your minds.
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It’s not that accountability has disappeared, it’s that the system fucks men. My wife cheated on me and I STILL lost half my shit. How was my accountability lacking? It’s not an equal contract. The statutory laws on the books are SO skewed against men it’s not even funny. This OBVIOUS fact which is commonly known and accepted is part of the problem because if you do anything to balance things out, you are labeled a misogynist.

Look at the flack that people get for “suggesting a disadvantage to men”. We are perceived as assholes, labeled as selfish, and our accountability is called into question. How does being smart and seeing an OBVIOUS inequity in the law and recognizing a significant statistical risk make me less than accountable?

The fact is that 90% of the married men that I talk to would cut off body parts to trade places with me. Then there are the 10% who are truly happy (you, skynett, V, etc…) and to you guys I wish you ALL THE BEST. But don’t judge me or question my integrity and accountability for making a choice based on facts and personal experience. That doesn’t make me an evil misogynist! LOL

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I dont know about anybody else but AC you are single correct? You are not date raping women correct? Women are also an intelligent species correct? It is one thing if you vow marriage and commitment to another person and then break that. Tiger should not have gotten married, or at least married one that had no problem with his lifestyle. Who knows maybe the reason Tiger’s wife didnt know what he was doing cause she was out riding the pony herself. Wouldnt be the first time, he just got caught first.

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
I still don’t feel sorry for him. It wasn’t like his dick held a gun to his head. He made his choices while under a pre-nup. He knew the rules (as unfair as they seem). He knew the risks but continued in is lifestyle. This is an age where accountability seems to have disappeared, or so it seems in some of your minds.
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It’s not that accountability has disappeared, it’s that the system fucks men. My wife cheated on me and I STILL lost half my shit. How was my accountability lacking? It’s not an equal contract. The statutory laws on the books are SO skewed against men it’s not even funny. This OBVIOUS fact which is commonly known and accepted is part of the problem because if you do anything to balance things out, you are labeled a misogynist.

Look at the flack that people get for “suggesting a disadvantage to men”. We are perceived as assholes, labeled as selfish, and our accountability is called into question. How does being smart and seeing an OBVIOUS inequity in the law and recognizing a significant statistical risk make me less than accountable?

The fact is that 90% of the married men that I talk to would cut off body parts to trade places with me. Then there are the 10% who are truly happy (you, skynett, V, etc…) and to you guys I wish you ALL THE BEST. But don’t judge me or question my integrity and accountability for making a choice based on facts and personal experience. That doesn’t make me an evil misogynist! LOL

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The answer is quite simple. At the time our laws were formed, a marriage was a contract based upon a voluntary private agreement by a man and a woman to become husband and wife. Marriage was viewed as the basis of the family unit and vital to the preservation of morals and civilization. Traditionally, the husband had a duty to provide a safe house, pay for necessities such as food and clothing, and live in the house. The wife’s obligations were maintaining a home, living in the home, having sexual relations with her husband, and rearing the couple’s children.

The laws did not contemplate that in modern time women might enter the work place and be able to support themselves. Or that somes wives would be fucking everything that moved and usually that didn’t include her own husband. However, try and advocate changes to ANY law. The system is ridiculous. I could go on and on about it. But I won’t :slight_smile:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
I still don’t feel sorry for him. It wasn’t like his dick held a gun to his head. He made his choices while under a pre-nup. He knew the rules (as unfair as they seem). He knew the risks but continued in is lifestyle. This is an age where accountability seems to have disappeared, or so it seems in some of your minds.
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It’s not that accountability has disappeared, it’s that the system fucks men. My wife cheated on me and I STILL lost half my shit. How was my accountability lacking? It’s not an equal contract. The statutory laws on the books are SO skewed against men it’s not even funny. This OBVIOUS fact which is commonly known and accepted is part of the problem because if you do anything to balance things out, you are labeled a misogynist.

Look at the flack that people get for “suggesting a disadvantage to men”. We are perceived as assholes, labeled as selfish, and our accountability is called into question. How does being smart and seeing an OBVIOUS inequity in the law and recognizing a significant statistical risk make me less than accountable?

The fact is that 90% of the married men that I talk to would cut off body parts to trade places with me. Then there are the 10% who are truly happy (you, skynett, V, etc…) and to you guys I wish you ALL THE BEST. But don’t judge me or question my integrity and accountability for making a choice based on facts and personal experience. That doesn’t make me an evil misogynist! LOL

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I dont know about anybody else but AC you are single correct? You are not date raping women correct? Women are also an intelligent species correct? It is one thing if you vow marriage and commitment to another person and then break that. Tiger should not have gotten married, or at least married one that had no problem with his lifestyle. Who knows maybe the reason Tiger’s wife didnt know what he was doing cause she was out riding the pony herself. Wouldnt be the first time, he just got caught first. [/quote]

This thread isn’t about whether cheating is wrong. This thread is about. DAMN, look at all this fucker lost because he got divorced!.

AC just told you he got screwed when HIS WIFE cheated on him, yet you guys keep overlooking this to talk about how wrong it is to cheat.

Yes, cheating is wrong.

Yes, so is our judicial system when it awards women with the children and half the man’s income almost no matter the circumstances unless they appear to be in immediate need of psychiatric care.

This woman somehow was blind to THIS many women coming through and there are some of you who think she was even doing her duties as a good wife?

One thing I don’t do is foist my view of the world on other people.

Any man that has no interest in marriage - I wouldn’t bust his balls for a second on it. That’s your decision, who the fuck am I to pass judgement on what makes other people happy?

I didn’t get married until I was 36. In some 20 years of being a single guy, I had more than my share of fun, clubbed with my boys, dated plenty of girls, and had 2 long term, serious relationships in that time period.

I was MORE than ready to “settle down” by that point. My home, and family are the most important things in the world to me. When I was 25 it would be a nightmare to have a kid - but my daughter is literally the center of my universe these days, and I wouldn’t have it any other way.

I guess it all depends on your experiences and perspective.

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
I still don’t feel sorry for him. It wasn’t like his dick held a gun to his head. He made his choices while under a pre-nup. He knew the rules (as unfair as they seem). He knew the risks but continued in is lifestyle. This is an age where accountability seems to have disappeared, or so it seems in some of your minds.
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It’s not that accountability has disappeared, it’s that the system fucks men. My wife cheated on me and I STILL lost half my shit. How was my accountability lacking? It’s not an equal contract. The statutory laws on the books are SO skewed against men it’s not even funny. This OBVIOUS fact which is commonly known and accepted is part of the problem because if you do anything to balance things out, you are labeled a misogynist.

Look at the flack that people get for “suggesting a disadvantage to men”. We are perceived as assholes, labeled as selfish, and our accountability is called into question. How does being smart and seeing an OBVIOUS inequity in the law and recognizing a significant statistical risk make me less than accountable?

The fact is that 90% of the married men that I talk to would cut off body parts to trade places with me. Then there are the 10% who are truly happy (you, skynett, V, etc…) and to you guys I wish you ALL THE BEST. But don’t judge me or question my integrity and accountability for making a choice based on facts and personal experience. That doesn’t make me an evil misogynist! LOL

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Everyones gonna judge everyone else. It’s ok though I judge you favorably. And X and anyone else who believes in something and then acts accordingly. I would judge harshly someone who says they believe in marriage and then goes out and cheats. Or someone who doesn’t believe in marriage who targets married people to cheat with to prove a point. I judge Tiger unfavorably, but I am not sold that his wife wen’t through “hell” I’m sure it wasn’t a picnic for her so I do have compassion for her on an emotional level.

In any partnership, it takes two to tango. Sure it could be MOSTLY Tigers fault, but I’m sure Elign has some hand in what went down, even if it was that she didn’t dig deep enough and know him well enough to know that he was gonna cut loose after the passing of his father. Hell I don’t even know tiger and I could tell you his father was his moral code. Everything he did was because he didn’t want to dissapoint the old man. I couldn’t have predicted he would go out and bang a buch of birds, but she SHOULD have been closer to him to know it was possible.

I can tell instantly when my wife walks in the door if she’s tired, had a bad day at work, horny, had a good day at work, hungry, wants to drink some wine or beer, etc… If you are truly life partners with someone, thier mannerisms and behaviors, thier facial expressions thier body language, all of it will tell you exactly what they are thinking or feeling. If people are gonna get married, they should strive to be a cohesive unit, ignorance is not an excuse.

V

[quote]attydeb2005 wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
I still don’t feel sorry for him. It wasn’t like his dick held a gun to his head. He made his choices while under a pre-nup. He knew the rules (as unfair as they seem). He knew the risks but continued in is lifestyle. This is an age where accountability seems to have disappeared, or so it seems in some of your minds.
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It’s not that accountability has disappeared, it’s that the system fucks men. My wife cheated on me and I STILL lost half my shit. How was my accountability lacking? It’s not an equal contract. The statutory laws on the books are SO skewed against men it’s not even funny. This OBVIOUS fact which is commonly known and accepted is part of the problem because if you do anything to balance things out, you are labeled a misogynist.

Look at the flack that people get for “suggesting a disadvantage to men”. We are perceived as assholes, labeled as selfish, and our accountability is called into question. How does being smart and seeing an OBVIOUS inequity in the law and recognizing a significant statistical risk make me less than accountable?

The fact is that 90% of the married men that I talk to would cut off body parts to trade places with me. Then there are the 10% who are truly happy (you, skynett, V, etc…) and to you guys I wish you ALL THE BEST. But don’t judge me or question my integrity and accountability for making a choice based on facts and personal experience. That doesn’t make me an evil misogynist! LOL

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The answer is quite simple. At the time our laws were formed, a marriage was a contract based upon a voluntary private agreement by a man and a woman to become husband and wife. Marriage was viewed as the basis of the family unit and vital to the preservation of morals and civilization. Traditionally, the husband had a duty to provide a safe house, pay for necessities such as food and clothing, and live in the house. The wife’s obligations were maintaining a home, living in the home, having sexual relations with her husband, and rearing the couple’s children.

The laws did not contemplate that in modern time women might enter the work place and be able to support themselves. Or that somes wives would be fucking everything that moved and usually that didn’t include her own husband. However, try and advocate changes to ANY law. The system is ridiculous. I could go on and on about it. But I won’t :-)[/quote]

But see, times have changed yet because of issues like this (along with others I have discussed) women in many instances are at a stark advantage in a relationship and in many job situations simply because they are women.

Men NEED to b aware if what they are getting into…not led around to think that marriage is some sweet innocent vow based only on trust. It isn’t. It is a huge financial risk as well if you happen to have a penis.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
I still don’t feel sorry for him. It wasn’t like his dick held a gun to his head. He made his choices while under a pre-nup. He knew the rules (as unfair as they seem). He knew the risks but continued in is lifestyle. This is an age where accountability seems to have disappeared, or so it seems in some of your minds.
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It’s not that accountability has disappeared, it’s that the system fucks men. My wife cheated on me and I STILL lost half my shit. How was my accountability lacking? It’s not an equal contract. The statutory laws on the books are SO skewed against men it’s not even funny. This OBVIOUS fact which is commonly known and accepted is part of the problem because if you do anything to balance things out, you are labeled a misogynist.

Look at the flack that people get for “suggesting a disadvantage to men”. We are perceived as assholes, labeled as selfish, and our accountability is called into question. How does being smart and seeing an OBVIOUS inequity in the law and recognizing a significant statistical risk make me less than accountable?

The fact is that 90% of the married men that I talk to would cut off body parts to trade places with me. Then there are the 10% who are truly happy (you, skynett, V, etc…) and to you guys I wish you ALL THE BEST. But don’t judge me or question my integrity and accountability for making a choice based on facts and personal experience. That doesn’t make me an evil misogynist! LOL

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I dont know about anybody else but AC you are single correct? You are not date raping women correct? Women are also an intelligent species correct? It is one thing if you vow marriage and commitment to another person and then break that. Tiger should not have gotten married, or at least married one that had no problem with his lifestyle. Who knows maybe the reason Tiger’s wife didnt know what he was doing cause she was out riding the pony herself. Wouldnt be the first time, he just got caught first. [/quote]

This thread isn’t about whether cheating is wrong. This thread is about. DAMN, look at all this fucker lost because he got divorced!.

AC just told you he got screwed when HIS WIFE cheated on him, yet you guys keep overlooking this to talk about how wrong it is to cheat.

Yes, cheating is wrong.

Yes, so is our judicial system when it awards women with the children and half the man’s income almost no matter the circumstances unless they appear to be in immediate need of psychiatric care.

This woman somehow was blind to THIS many women coming through and there are some of you who think she was even doing her duties as a good wife?[/quote]

I was not talking about wrong to cheat, I was saying that AC is single and him fucking everyone he can is a mutual agreement with the women he is fucking. He isnt date raping etc. I also said that maybe she was cheating and that is why and how she didnt know what he was doing.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
This woman somehow was blind to THIS many women coming through and there are some of you who think she was even doing her duties as a good wife?[/quote]

You don’t think that someone with his money, time and resources could pull the wool over her eyes? I mean, the dude is away from home how often? Shit, probably MOST of the year.

Pretty easy to get away with cheating on your wife if you’re thousands of miles away.

[quote]SkyNett wrote:
One thing I don’t do is foist my view of the world on other people.

Any man that has no interest in marriage - I wouldn’t bust his balls for a second on it. That’s your decision, who the fuck am I to pass judgement on what makes other people happy?

I didn’t get married until I was 36. In some 20 years of being a single guy, I had more than my share of fun, clubbed with my boys, dated plenty of girls, and had 2 long term, serious relationships in that time period.

I was MORE than ready to “settle down” by that point. My home, and family are the most important things in the world to me. When I was 25 it would be a nightmare to have a kid - but my daughter is literally the center of my universe these days, and I wouldn’t have it any other way.

I guess it all depends on your experiences and perspective. [/quote]

No one is faulting you for getting married at 36. I am specifically saying that if you are a man WITH ASSETS, you had better be damn sure of the risks involved before wandering into marriage thinking you don’t need to protect yourself.

For every one of you claiming your marriage cause the heavens to sing, flowers to bloom and for angels to get their wings, there are probably 50 or more horror stories where the guys wished thy hadn’t simply thought with their “heart” and their “manhood”.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
I still don’t feel sorry for him. It wasn’t like his dick held a gun to his head. He made his choices while under a pre-nup. He knew the rules (as unfair as they seem). He knew the risks but continued in is lifestyle. This is an age where accountability seems to have disappeared, or so it seems in some of your minds.
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It’s not that accountability has disappeared, it’s that the system fucks men. My wife cheated on me and I STILL lost half my shit. How was my accountability lacking? It’s not an equal contract. The statutory laws on the books are SO skewed against men it’s not even funny. This OBVIOUS fact which is commonly known and accepted is part of the problem because if you do anything to balance things out, you are labeled a misogynist.

Look at the flack that people get for “suggesting a disadvantage to men”. We are perceived as assholes, labeled as selfish, and our accountability is called into question. How does being smart and seeing an OBVIOUS inequity in the law and recognizing a significant statistical risk make me less than accountable?

The fact is that 90% of the married men that I talk to would cut off body parts to trade places with me. Then there are the 10% who are truly happy (you, skynett, V, etc…) and to you guys I wish you ALL THE BEST. But don’t judge me or question my integrity and accountability for making a choice based on facts and personal experience. That doesn’t make me an evil misogynist! LOL

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I dont know about anybody else but AC you are single correct? You are not date raping women correct? Women are also an intelligent species correct? It is one thing if you vow marriage and commitment to another person and then break that. Tiger should not have gotten married, or at least married one that had no problem with his lifestyle. Who knows maybe the reason Tiger’s wife didnt know what he was doing cause she was out riding the pony herself. Wouldnt be the first time, he just got caught first. [/quote]

This thread isn’t about whether cheating is wrong. This thread is about. DAMN, look at all this fucker lost because he got divorced!.

AC just told you he got screwed when HIS WIFE cheated on him, yet you guys keep overlooking this to talk about how wrong it is to cheat.

Yes, cheating is wrong.

Yes, so is our judicial system when it awards women with the children and half the man’s income almost no matter the circumstances unless they appear to be in immediate need of psychiatric care.

This woman somehow was blind to THIS many women coming through and there are some of you who think she was even doing her duties as a good wife?[/quote]

Well, AC definately got screwed, Tiger, not so much. So you have a point and the law is bullshit, but MOST men know this going in, I did. How many of us got to our early 20’s and haven’t heard a story or two about some guy getting raped by his ex in court. Being men, our egos are to blame, nothing ever happens to us, we are better than all the other guys. Well, not you and not AC now, but for plenty of men this is the case.

V

[quote]SkyNett wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
This woman somehow was blind to THIS many women coming through and there are some of you who think she was even doing her duties as a good wife?[/quote]

You don’t think that someone with his money, time and resources could pull the wool over her eyes? I mean, the dude is away from home how often? Shit, probably MOST of the year.

Pretty easy to get away with cheating on your wife if you’re thousands of miles away. [/quote]

Bullshit. Do you know how naive you are trying to make her look?

If she was that damn clueless, I can see why he screwed around so much.

[quote]Professor X wrote:


Elin Nordegren on Tiger Woods: ‘I’ve been through hell’

[quote]The three key takeaways from Nordegren’s story are:

â?¢ She says she is in no way a violent person, calling any speculation that she swung a golf club at Woods on Thanksgiving night “ridiculous.”

â?¢ She was completely broadsided by the news of Woods’ extramarital affairs, believing that she was the only woman in his life. In short, she was as surprised as most of the rest of the world that the persona Woods put forth â?? dedicated competitor, family man â?? was a carefully constructed sham. “I’m so embarassed that I never suspected [his affairs] â?? not a one,” she said.

â?¢ In line with that, she said she believed fully that her relationship with Woods was a real marriage, not an act orchestrated for cameras and sponsors. “The word betrayal is just not strong enough,” she told People. “I have been through the stages of disbelief and shock to anger and ultimately grief over the loss of the family I so badly wanted for my children.” [/quote]

Has she really been through hell? This woman is now carrying more cash in her wallet than most states in this country yet she’s been through hell?

Are you fucking kidding me?

This right here is why marriage is not worth the effort if you happen to be a celebrity…or hell, even just someone who has something to lose in a divorce. It isn’t that she just speaks out about an affair, but more that she spends so much time dragging Tiger’s name further through the mud (if that’s possible) by acting like his life is all a sham.

Just a question to you guys who got married…if it ever went south, would your girl be out to destroy you?

If so, it it worth it?[/quote]

Tiger made a vow (promise, gave his word, etc) to her. He broke it - he lied, he betrayed what was supposed to be his best friend. If a person does this to their best friend – what kind of person are they? So what if she got a lot of money out of it. He was fully aware of what might happen should he do certain things - he did them anyway and now he has paid for it. So stop crying for this guy - he also still has more money than most states; he can still play golf and can now freely go bang any chick that will cooperate. So you can hardly says that this guy has been destroyed by his ex-wife; becasue he did it to himself first of all - and he still is in a good position financially.

[quote]mmllcc wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:


Elin Nordegren on Tiger Woods: ‘I’ve been through hell’

[quote]The three key takeaways from Nordegren’s story are:

Ã??Ã?¢?Ã??Ã?¢ She says she is in no way a violent person, calling any speculation that she swung a golf club at Woods on Thanksgiving night “ridiculous.”

Ã??Ã?¢?Ã??Ã?¢ She was completely broadsided by the news of Woods’ extramarital affairs, believing that she was the only woman in his life. In short, she was as surprised as most of the rest of the world that the persona Woods put forth Ã??Ã?¢?? dedicated competitor, family man Ã??Ã?¢?? was a carefully constructed sham. “I’m so embarassed that I never suspected [his affairs] Ã??Ã?¢?? not a one,” she said.

Ã??Ã?¢?Ã??Ã?¢ In line with that, she said she believed fully that her relationship with Woods was a real marriage, not an act orchestrated for cameras and sponsors. “The word betrayal is just not strong enough,” she told People. “I have been through the stages of disbelief and shock to anger and ultimately grief over the loss of the family I so badly wanted for my children.” [/quote]

Has she really been through hell? This woman is now carrying more cash in her wallet than most states in this country yet she’s been through hell?

Are you fucking kidding me?

This right here is why marriage is not worth the effort if you happen to be a celebrity…or hell, even just someone who has something to lose in a divorce. It isn’t that she just speaks out about an affair, but more that she spends so much time dragging Tiger’s name further through the mud (if that’s possible) by acting like his life is all a sham.

Just a question to you guys who got married…if it ever went south, would your girl be out to destroy you?

If so, it it worth it?[/quote]

Tiger made a vow (promise, gave his word, etc) to her. He broke it - he lied, he betrayed what was supposed to be his best friend. If a person does this to their best friend – what kind of person are they? So what if she got a lot of money out of it. He was fully aware of what might happen should he do certain things - he did them anyway and now he has paid for it. So stop crying for this guy - he also still has more money than most states; he can still play golf and can now freely go bang any chick that will cooperate. So you can hardly says that this guy has been destroyed by his ex-wife; becasue he did it to himself first of all - and he still is in a good position financially.[/quote]

Wait, so even though I have explained what this thread is about at least 3 times now, some of you still think this is a thread crying just because Tiger lost some money?

How clear do I need to make this?

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Bullshit. Do you know how naive you are trying to make her look?

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Eh - I dunno. Neither one of us knows for sure, but I think a guy with that kind of absence from the home on a regular basis (and certainly his career would help not arouse suspicion since he is a pro golfer and expected to be away for extended periods of time) could easily creep and get away with it.

But obviously I don’t know for sure - maybe she knew all about it, and like many wives of rich & powerful men, accept it as long as it’s “not in their face”. Once the scandal broke, then all bets are off…

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
I still don’t feel sorry for him. It wasn’t like his dick held a gun to his head. He made his choices while under a pre-nup. He knew the rules (as unfair as they seem). He knew the risks but continued in is lifestyle. This is an age where accountability seems to have disappeared, or so it seems in some of your minds.
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It’s not that accountability has disappeared, it’s that the system fucks men. My wife cheated on me and I STILL lost half my shit. How was my accountability lacking? It’s not an equal contract. The statutory laws on the books are SO skewed against men it’s not even funny. This OBVIOUS fact which is commonly known and accepted is part of the problem because if you do anything to balance things out, you are labeled a misogynist.

Look at the flack that people get for “suggesting a disadvantage to men”. We are perceived as assholes, labeled as selfish, and our accountability is called into question. How does being smart and seeing an OBVIOUS inequity in the law and recognizing a significant statistical risk make me less than accountable?

The fact is that 90% of the married men that I talk to would cut off body parts to trade places with me. Then there are the 10% who are truly happy (you, skynett, V, etc…) and to you guys I wish you ALL THE BEST. But don’t judge me or question my integrity and accountability for making a choice based on facts and personal experience. That doesn’t make me an evil misogynist! LOL

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I dont know about anybody else but AC you are single correct? You are not date raping women correct? Women are also an intelligent species correct? It is one thing if you vow marriage and commitment to another person and then break that. Tiger should not have gotten married, or at least married one that had no problem with his lifestyle. Who knows maybe the reason Tiger’s wife didnt know what he was doing cause she was out riding the pony herself. Wouldnt be the first time, he just got caught first. [/quote]

This thread isn’t about whether cheating is wrong. This thread is about. DAMN, look at all this fucker lost because he got divorced!.

AC just told you he got screwed when HIS WIFE cheated on him, yet you guys keep overlooking this to talk about how wrong it is to cheat.

Yes, cheating is wrong.

Yes, so is our judicial system when it awards women with the children and half the man’s income almost no matter the circumstances unless they appear to be in immediate need of psychiatric care.

This woman somehow was blind to THIS many women coming through and there are some of you who think she was even doing her duties as a good wife?[/quote]

I was not talking about wrong to cheat, I was saying that AC is single and him fucking everyone he can is a mutual agreement with the women he is fucking. He isnt date raping etc. I also said that maybe she was cheating and that is why and how she didnt know what he was doing. [/quote]

Again, maybe she was cheating also.