Tiger’s Wood
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Tiger’s Wood[/quote]
9/10
If you had added a crazed Elin charging Tiger with a golf club you would’ve gotten a perfect score.
For $100+ million AND http://homesoftherich.net/2009/05/jupiter-island-mega-mansion.html you can “hurt my feelings” till hell freezes over
Fuck marriage. There is nothing that piece of paper does for you except allow her to take half of your shit in the statistical probability that it won’t work out.
It is a logical fallacy for those of you with happy marriages to get on your high horse and condemn others for fear of losing half of their net worth because she “earned it” by rationing sex to once a month and making a few sammiches… I am GLAD that your marriages are good ones. But not ALL marriages will be good. Losing half a million dollars FUCKING SUCKS. TRUST ME. When you figure the opportunity cost and economic timing, it was a lot more than that - my divorce set me back ten years financially. That’s TEN YEARS that I have to work JUST TO GET BACK to where I would have been…
SHE cheated on ME, so I left. But according to “the law”, I abandoned the marriage. That’s how it is written. There is NO protection for men. Hell, according to my attorney, most prenups out there aren’t worth the paper they’re written on. So don’t fool your selves into thinking you’ll be protected. Lawyers get paid LOTS of money to find loop holes in shit. Statutory law evolves. A prenup WILL be rendered obsolete, it’s only a matter of time. Unless you are proactive and have your lawyer re-draw the document every year, and what wife would agree with that? She doesn’t HAVE to sign SHIT once you are married. Think about it.
I’m not even going to get into the issues of how a man’s “market value” will increase as he gets older while a woman’s declines… So in effect, you are risking HALF of your net worth (and possibly future earnings) on a depreciating asset.
As for the argument of “you’ll always be lonely, blah blah blah…” My response is GET A GIRLFRIEND! But DO NOT let her move in with you for more than six months (ever heard of “common law” marriage?) they can STILL take your shit in some states! That being said, have a girlfriend. Manage her expectations. Travel together, have fun together. I assure you that I’m a lot of things, but “lonely” is not one of them!
There’s no way in HELL I’m going to risk the money and assets that will eventually go to my kids over a relationship that has a STATISTICAL PROBABILITY (the odds are WAY worse for second marriages) of me losing half of my net worth AGAIN.
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
Fuck marriage. There is nothing that piece of paper does for you except allow her to take half of your shit in the statistical probability that it won’t work out.
It is a logical fallacy for those of you with happy marriages to get on your high horse and condemn others for fear of losing half of their net worth because she “earned it” by rationing sex to once a month and making a few sammiches… I am GLAD that your marriages are good ones. But not ALL marriages will be good. Losing half a million dollars FUCKING SUCKS. TRUST ME. When you figure the opportunity cost and economic timing, it was a lot more than that - my divorce set me back ten years financially. That’s TEN YEARS that I have to work JUST TO GET BACK to where I would have been…
SHE cheated on ME, so I left. But according to “the law”, I abandoned the marriage. That’s how it is written. There is NO protection for men. Hell, according to my attorney, most prenups out there aren’t worth the paper they’re written on. So don’t fool your selves into thinking you’ll be protected. Lawyers get paid LOTS of money to find loop holes in shit. Statutory law evolves. A prenup WILL be rendered obsolete, it’s only a matter of time. Unless you are proactive and have your lawyer re-draw the document every year, and what wife would agree with that? She doesn’t HAVE to sign SHIT once you are married. Think about it.
I’m not even going to get into the issues of how a man’s “market value” will increase as he gets older while a woman’s declines… So in effect, you are risking HALF of your net worth (and possibly future earnings) on a depreciating asset.
As for the argument of “you’ll always be lonely, blah blah blah…” My response is GET A GIRLFRIEND! But DO NOT let her move in with you for more than six months (ever heard of “common law” marriage?) they can STILL take your shit in some states! That being said, have a girlfriend. Manage her expectations. Travel together, have fun together. I assure you that I’m a lot of things, but “lonely” is not one of them!
There’s no way in HELL I’m going to risk the money and assets that will eventually go to my kids over a relationship that has a STATISTICAL PROBABILITY (the odds are WAY worse for second marriages) of me losing half of my net worth AGAIN.
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They also seem to believe that because you don’t want to lose everything you’ve worked for that this means you put possessions over connections with other human beings. The logic there is pathetic. Any woman hopping on the train now will get the benefit of whatever accomplishments have been made up to that point…things they weren’t even around for as you worked your way towards them. Not wanting to lose that does not make one materialistic. If anything, it makes them more realistic than the guy who blindly thinks his “true love” won’t ever run dry.
You can take risk like that easily if you really don’t have anything to lose.
Tiger had everything to lose. He didn’t just lose money, but his ENTIRE REPUTATION has now been scarred for life with this one issue now being the defining moment of his entire life unless he does something more amazing later.
That sucks…and while none of us actually feel sorry for him personally because of the acts committed, everything he lost does stand to represent what is at risk.
The system never protects the guy. When have we EVER heard of some guy divorcing a super rich woman and getting millions of dollars from it as a settlement along with custody of the kids? Hell, she would have to literally be smoking crack all day in front of the kids IN PUBLIC and on film while holding a sign saying “I smoked my kids lunch money away and just may sell one for my next hit” for that to happen.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Any woman hopping on the train now will get the benefit of whatever accomplishments have been made up to that point…things they weren’t even around for as you worked your way towards them. Not wanting to lose that does not make one materialistic. [/quote]
Here’s a titty-twister for you chief - what happens if you meet a woman who is AS successful as you? Wait, no - MORE successful than you! Has more assets, makes more money, has a better job…
What then? : )
Lol@ my wife being a “depreciating asset” - that’s classic.
Who the fuck was Elin having affairs with? Did her phone ever get checked? I mean…FUCK THAT. lol
[quote]SkyNett wrote:
…what happens if you meet a woman who is AS successful as you? Wait, no - MORE successful than you! Has more assets, makes more money, has a better job… [/quote]
You quit your job and marry her. Look after the kids n stuff.
[quote]SkyNett wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Any woman hopping on the train now will get the benefit of whatever accomplishments have been made up to that point…things they weren’t even around for as you worked your way towards them. Not wanting to lose that does not make one materialistic. [/quote]
Here’s a titty-twister for you chief - what happens if you meet a woman who is AS successful as you? Wait, no - MORE successful than you! Has more assets, makes more money, has a better job…
What then? : )
Lol@ my wife being a “depreciating asset” - that’s classic. [/quote]
Well, no offense but he is right in a broad sense about “depreciating assets”. As many men age, unless we are talking over the age of 60, our value as far as marriage does not go down as it does for many women. A 40 year old man who is doing well for himself will likely have little problem getting laid by younger women and older unless he is butt ugly or has some attitude problem. It doesn’t always work the same for women. Many men are also intimidated by a woman who is extremely successful while a man is valued more for it specifically. Therefore, as you and your wife age, if a divorce were to ever come up, of the two of you, YOU would have the better chance at quickly moving on into another relationship the older you two get. The older she gets, even if she is well off, may make it harder for her.
As far as what I would do if I met someone more successful, I have gone out with another doc before of my same rank in the military. I am not sure why you think anyone would have a nervous breakdown upon meeting a woman like that…but I can tell you it is very rare to meet someone with the type of character I am looking for who also worked to an increased level. Most women I meet in positions like that are decidedly “colder” in personality and there aren’t that many to start with.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I am not sure why you think anyone would have a nervous breakdown upon meeting a woman like that…but I can tell you it is very rare to meet someone with the type of character I am looking for who also worked to an increased level. [/quote]
I’m not offended by the depreciating asset thing - I know what you’re saying.
And I don’t think you’d have a nervous breakdown jackass…lol…that’s YOU extrapolating something from what I said, but I didn’t mean that you would be unable to handle a successful woman…
I just figured that in your profession, you probably have the chance to meet more women who are doctors or something. And less strippers…
[quote]Professor X wrote:
When have we EVER heard of some guy divorcing a super rich woman and getting millions of dollars from it as a settlement along with custody of the kids? [/quote]
Britney Spears and Kevin Federline
Only one I could think of, but it does work both ways, just not often. It is rare for a woman to marry a man that makes much less money than she does (I think).
There was a prenup, but was voided due to infidelity. Most are. Can you imagine signing a prenup saying you wouldn’t get anything in a divorce, even if the other person cheats? Screw that
[quote]SkyNett wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I am not sure why you think anyone would have a nervous breakdown upon meeting a woman like that…but I can tell you it is very rare to meet someone with the type of character I am looking for who also worked to an increased level. [/quote]
I’m not offended by the depreciating asset thing - I know what you’re saying.
And I don’t think you’d have a nervous breakdown jackass…lol…that’s YOU extrapolating something from what I said, but I didn’t mean that you would be unable to handle a successful woman…
I just figured that in your profession, you probably have the chance to meet more women who are doctors or something. And less strippers…
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I do…and most are about to retire or simply not my type. Your question hinted at more than just that, however.
[quote]Steel Nation wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
When have we EVER heard of some guy divorcing a super rich woman and getting millions of dollars from it as a settlement along with custody of the kids? [/quote]
Britney Spears and Kevin Federline
Only one I could think of, but it does work both ways, just not often. It is rare for a woman to marry a man that makes much less money than she does (I think).
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LOL, he got the kids?
Then again, some might label her unstable so I think “really fucking crazy” may be able to act as a loop hole.
[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
There was a prenup, but was voided due to infidelity. Most are. Can you imagine signing a prenup saying you wouldn’t get anything in a divorce, even if the other person cheats? Screw that[/quote]
Why not?
Scenario:
guy age 36 gets married with his assets including a six figure job, a house with a pool, three cars and a dog…to a woman age 27 who works as a school teacher making around 40K who rents and has two kids. If they get divorced in six months because he cheated, you think she deserves half his shit???
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Then again, some might label her unstable so I think “really fucking crazy” may be able to act as a loop hole.[/quote]
Unstable, you say?
I don’t see it.
I still don’t feel sorry for him. It wasn’t like his dick held a gun to his head. He made his choices while under a pre-nup. He knew the rules (as unfair as they seem). He knew the risks but continued in is lifestyle. This is an age where accountability seems to have disappeared, or so it seems in some of your minds.
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
I still don’t feel sorry for him. It wasn’t like his dick held a gun to his head. He made his choices while under a pre-nup. He knew the rules (as unfair as they seem). He knew the risks but continued in is lifestyle. This is an age where accountability seems to have disappeared, or so it seems in some of your minds.
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I can only agree with you to a limited degree…because I have never been one to simply blame one party without thinking the other did something wrong too.
Question, what kind of “attentive wife” can overlook THAT much side play?
I could see if this was ONE affair that could be easily hidden…but Tiger is either a fucking genius when it comes to covering his tracks, she knew in the first place but only got pissed and bailed once the story started getting out, or she was one clueless woman who wasn’t giving HIM enough attention.
I don’t think there is another option.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
but I can tell you it is very rare to meet someone with the type of character I am looking for who also worked to an increased level. Most women I meet in positions like that are decidedly “colder” in personality and there aren’t that many to start with.
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So you think that “colder” vibe is only given off by women who work to that asset level. Look in the mirror there bud. Almost anyone who has the drive to build that type of wealth WITHOUT just being naturally very good or very lucky, are going to have that certain personality type. I married my wife when I was in DEBT, and so was she. IF we ever do become wealthy, it will absolutely be because we both made sacrifices and worked hard to build that wealth as a team. Also when she finishes her nursing school, she will be making the same or possibly MORE than I do on an annual basis.
I feel like there are several things that go into all this divorce bullshit. Granted you can never know anyone 100%, you can’t read peoples minds, at least not actively and completely. I actuially read my wifes mind quite a bit, but it’s more random and more intuitive than actively conciously trying to know what she is thinking.
I honestly believe kids who grew up in a more urban environment are less connected to the people around them than those who grew up in a more rural setting. I graduated with about 100 kids in my High School Class. So did my wife. Our community is small and everyone knows everyone. I don’t see 1000 strangers in a week, some of you see 1000 strangers in an hour, or less.
I think if I did grow up in a more urban setting I would probably be less trusting of people than I am now. I know I would never date a woman from an urban upbringing, too independant, I want a life partner, not someone to go out to dinner with and screw. So again, I think a lot of it is what environment you were raised in, I think people with a smaller number of people around them growing up form deeper bonds and marriage is probably something those people are still going to seek out in life, and they should. People who grow up with LOTS of people constantly around them probably develop more but less deep connections (aside from family). It’s really a numbers game. If I have 1 year to spend with 20 people, I am going to know them intimately after that year, we will have deep emotional connections. If I have a year to spend with 200 people, thats barley a day I can spend with each person. I will probably not even be able to recall all 200 by thier first and last names.
Anyways, That’s my thoughts on this, Marriage is right for some and not right for others, and just like people who have good marriages shouldn’t condemn people who avoid it, people who avoid it should not condemn people who seek it. It can and does work and it’s good when it does, it can and does fail and it’s bad when it does.
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[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
I still don’t feel sorry for him. It wasn’t like his dick held a gun to his head. He made his choices while under a pre-nup. He knew the rules (as unfair as they seem). He knew the risks but continued in is lifestyle. This is an age where accountability seems to have disappeared, or so it seems in some of your minds.
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I can only agree with you to a limited degree…because I have never been one to simply blame one party without thinking the other did something wrong too.
Question, what kind of “attentive wife” can overlook THAT much side play?
I could see if this was ONE affair that could be easily hidden…but Tiger is either a fucking genius when it comes to covering his tracks, she knew in the first place but only got pissed and bailed once the story started getting out, or she was one clueless woman who wasn’t giving HIM enough attention.
I don’t think there is another option.[/quote]
Wellll, We are not talking about the average JOE. This is Tiger WOODS. He travels all over the world and has the money to get all the poonany he wants and keep it on the low. So I can see how he could keep it from her.
Tiger Simply got married to soon. Did you guys even look at that clip with him and his dad on the Late Show. He was 2yrs old. This guy has been training for this his whole life. He makes it to the top his pops who was with him from the start passes and he goes buck wild.
Lets be honest you don’t see any teenage or pre-Rich Wood HO’s popping out of the woodwork. This is all women from the same time period of a couple years. He went buck wild and maybe should have. The only problem was he was under contract with the MRS.