[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
It comes off that the case you’re making here is that big bucks can resolve emotional issues.[/quote]
That isn’t what I wrote at all. I am saying that if you have big bucks, you better watch your fucking back.
Look, we get it, some of you claim wonderful marriages with soul mates who would NEVER turn around and stab you in the back…yet most of the people I know (obviously not all) have either been divorced or had their “serious relationship” go south and their girl do something that literally tries to ruin the guy’s life.
If you guys are making less than 60K, obviously the same rules do not apply.
Money seems to change the whole issue…that and status.
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When integrity and trust are destroyed and the person you married and love ends up being someone else, it’s emotionally devestaing and not easy to buy away or brush off. [/quote]
No kidding, but let’s face it, most people getting married younger than 25 years of age WILL be married to someone different in ten years…so maybe you underestimate how widespread the issue is.
Villain is a strong word, but her own words about him as if he basically faked who he was even in public is NOT just about their marriage. Statements like that are even more damaging than what has happened so far. She is not moving on, she is choosing to continue to tear him down when the truth is, exactly how much worse can the man look in public?
If he signed a pre-nupt stating it is void if he cheats, then yes, he royally screwed up…but when rich little girls who will only have to work in this life time if they choose claim they’ve been through HELL, I tend to wonder what is wrong with them.
My grandmother went through hell. I know real people right now “going through hell”…and little Miss rich isn’t anywhere close.
She came out of this smelling like roses so what HELL has she seen?[/quote]
heheheh, In her view and I will give her the benifit of the doudt that she is not working on anything else but emotion. She went thru “Married Woman Hell” she was in love and thought he was the one and only and got smacked publicly sooooo she is now smacking him back publicly.
Trust me a woman in love can do some fucked up shit when she feels wronged, Tiger got off easy. The money I hope hits him as a reminder that he should stay single wrap that puppy up and comence to tagging all he wants. Get that shit out of his system. PLAY GOLF AND FUCK!!
Hell the guy has been training since he was what 4 (that scene from the Tonight show). He is young and rich. So live his life for a while.
[quote]four60 wrote:
Trust me a woman in love can do some fucked up shit when she feels wronged.[/quote]
THIS statement here is what this thread is about. That “fucked up shit” that everyone in this thread is claiming their wives would NEVER EVER resort to seems to be the lie men get told so we feel safe about marriage in the first place.
Yes, we all know the saying “a woman scorned”…but it is because of that I am making an issue here.
I personally think any man who thinks his wife is above this is either married to a real life angel or he is lying to himself.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]four60 wrote:
Trust me a woman in love can do some fucked up shit when she feels wronged.[/quote]
THIS statement here is what this thread is about. That “fucked up shit” that everyone in this thread is claiming their wives would NEVER EVER resort to seems to be the lie men get told so we feel safe about marriage in the first place.
Yes, we all know the saying “a woman scorned”…but it is because of that I am making an issue here.
I personally think any man who thinks his wife is above this is either married to a real life angel or he is lying to himself.[/quote]
AGREED, I would rather PIMP slap a YOUNG Mike Tyson than fall asleep with a woman who thinks I wronged her. I’m not that Brave.
He got pretty fucked with his sponsors dropping him. Trojan and Lifestyles should sponsor him.
Well, I feel sorry for both of them. Tiger is just as embarassed as her, lost endorsements and income, plus part of his net worth all in the public eye. Meanwhile, he’s been playing poor golf and harrassed by the pop. I am not perfect and you can’t expect ANYBODY to be. People all make mistakes in their lives and he isn’t the first person who’s cheated on their spouse with multiple people.
He showed the world his greatest weakness. There isn’t any reason not to feel sorry for him. He has an unhealthy value of sex in his mind and it’s probably best for him not to be in a married relationship for quite some time.
Some of you are acting like it should be a natural drive for men to cheat on their wives. I DO NOT see things this way.
[quote]FrozenNinja wrote:
Elin: “Money can’t buy happyness or put my family back together”[/quote]
She can put her family back together if she really wanted to.
When you get married to someone there’s a relationship agreement that takes place. What you do outside of that personal relationship agreement with your spouse is pretty black and white. Theres right and theres wrong.
Any man can cheat on his wife. It takes balls and practice to have willpower.
I think I read something crazy like about 75% of marriages nowadays end in divorce.
Then again, sometimes you can do all the right things and still wind up played by your spouse.
Unless you really truly know a girl, don’t believe her when she tells you money isn’t important to her in a relationship.
[quote]FrozenNinja wrote:
Some of you are acting like it should be a natural drive for men to cheat on their wives. I DO NOT see things this way.[/quote]
No, I think it is a NATURAL drive for men to want to be with more than one woman. I’m not married…and frankly don’t want to be. I personally would not cheat on someone who believed we were together as a couple. I would rather stay single and do not like the idea of others doing things like that…but the reality is, many of the guys I know who have been in serious relationships did cheat…and so did their girls.
Marriage isn’t the “institution” it once was. Now, it is basically all for show and a tax break.
[quote]djrobins wrote:
[quote]FrozenNinja wrote:
Elin: “Money can’t buy happyness or put my family back together”[/quote]
She can put her family back together if she really wanted to.[/quote]
Yeah apparently he wanted to patch things up. She couldn’t. I think she should have taken the enormous pressure he’s under in the public spotlight from frisky females into account and given him another chance.
But as someone metioned earlier, Will Smith is a good example for not giving in to adoring female fans and admirers.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]FrozenNinja wrote:
Some of you are acting like it should be a natural drive for men to cheat on their wives. I DO NOT see things this way.[/quote]
No, I think it is a NATURAL drive for men to want to be with more than one woman. I’m not married…and frankly don’t want to be. I personally would not cheat on someone who believed we were together as a couple. I would rather stay single and do not like the idea of others doing things like that…but the reality is, many of the guys I know who have been in serious relationships did cheat…and so did their girls.
Marriage isn’t the “institution” it once was. Now, it is basically all for show and a tax break.[/quote]
You’re still young. You might rethink this in a couple of years. Thats what All my older friends tell me.
[quote]FrozenNinja wrote:
[quote]djrobins wrote:
[quote]FrozenNinja wrote:
Elin: “Money can’t buy happyness or put my family back together”[/quote]
She can put her family back together if she really wanted to.[/quote]
Yeah apparently he wanted to patch things up. She couldn’t. I think she should have taken the enormous pressure he’s under in the public spotlight from frisky females into account and given him another chance.
But as someone metioned earlier, Will Smith is a good example for not giving in to adoring female fans and admirers.[/quote]
???
That’s what you THINK because Jada doesn’t make much of any of their personal business known…even in interviews. SHE is a true example of what a good celebrity wife should be like…and there is what…ONE of her?
Katie Holmes seems to do an ok job at that. Maybe it’s cause she’s frightened of Tom. LOL
My Buddy was an agent assistant at CAA and said Tom is just as eccentric as you think he is…even when talking about football. Lol I still like him as an actor.
[quote]FrozenNinja wrote:
Katie Holmes seems to do an ok job at that. Maybe it’s cause she’s frightened of Tom. LOL[/quote]
LOL…I think Family Guy did a skit just like that.
[quote]FrozenNinja wrote:
Well, I feel sorry for both of them. Tiger is just as embarassed as her, lost endorsements and income, plus part of his net worth all in the public eye. Meanwhile, he’s been playing poor golf and harrassed by the pop. I am not perfect and you can’t expect ANYBODY to be. People all make mistakes in their lives and he isn’t the first person who’s cheated on their spouse with multiple people.
He showed the world his greatest weakness. There isn’t any reason not to feel sorry for him. He has an unhealthy value of sex in his mind and it’s probably best for him not to be in a married relationship for quite some time.
Some of you are acting like it should be a natural drive for men to cheat on their wives. I DO NOT see things this way.[/quote]
You left out the part where he is also losing his kids, something Elin doesn’t have to go through because that’s a custody battle that would never ever be approached(completely different topic). That’s what I tried to touch on in my earlier post: Elin comes off as quite the bitch in ‘her story’ because she doesn’t just stop at the ‘woe is me’ part(which is all understandable, she went through some emotional trauma). She continues on to take more shots at Tiger as if he isn’t losing anything besides the money and the real estate.
I actually have 0 sympathy for Tiger as far as the money is concerned(as IH and ID pointed out: prenup with an adultery clause and you still fucked around?). I do have some sympathy for the way he is being railroaded as apparently some inhuman robot who has no attachment to his children or his wife(it is possible that he cares for her but wasn’t sexually fulfilled, hardly an excuse because a responsible adult relationship would deal with that, but cheating doesn’t mean he was indifferent about Elin).
[quote]red04 wrote:
[quote]FrozenNinja wrote:
Well, I feel sorry for both of them. Tiger is just as embarassed as her, lost endorsements and income, plus part of his net worth all in the public eye. Meanwhile, he’s been playing poor golf and harrassed by the pop. I am not perfect and you can’t expect ANYBODY to be. People all make mistakes in their lives and he isn’t the first person who’s cheated on their spouse with multiple people.
He showed the world his greatest weakness. There isn’t any reason not to feel sorry for him. He has an unhealthy value of sex in his mind and it’s probably best for him not to be in a married relationship for quite some time.
Some of you are acting like it should be a natural drive for men to cheat on their wives. I DO NOT see things this way.[/quote]
You left out the part where he is also losing his kids, something Elin doesn’t have to go through because that’s a custody battle that would never ever be approached(completely different topic). That’s what I tried to touch on in my earlier post: Elin comes off as quite the bitch in ‘her story’ because she doesn’t just stop at the ‘woe is me’ part(which is all understandable, she went through some emotional trauma). She continues on to take more shots at Tiger as if he isn’t losing anything besides the money and the real estate.
I actually have 0 sympathy for Tiger as far as the money is concerned(as IH and ID pointed out: prenup with an adultery clause and you still fucked around?). I do have some sympathy for the way he is being railroaded as apparently some inhuman robot who has no attachment to his children or his wife(it is possible that he cares for her but wasn’t sexually fulfilled, hardly an excuse because a responsible adult relationship would deal with that, but cheating doesn’t mean he was indifferent about Elin).[/quote]
I think I mostly agree with this. But answer me this. Do you think it’s fair for a Divorcee to get half her/his spouse’s worth even money made before marriage?
To me that law is total utter bullshit.
[quote]FrozenNinja wrote:
[quote]red04 wrote:
[quote]FrozenNinja wrote:
Well, I feel sorry for both of them. Tiger is just as embarassed as her, lost endorsements and income, plus part of his net worth all in the public eye. Meanwhile, he’s been playing poor golf and harrassed by the pop. I am not perfect and you can’t expect ANYBODY to be. People all make mistakes in their lives and he isn’t the first person who’s cheated on their spouse with multiple people.
He showed the world his greatest weakness. There isn’t any reason not to feel sorry for him. He has an unhealthy value of sex in his mind and it’s probably best for him not to be in a married relationship for quite some time.
Some of you are acting like it should be a natural drive for men to cheat on their wives. I DO NOT see things this way.[/quote]
You left out the part where he is also losing his kids, something Elin doesn’t have to go through because that’s a custody battle that would never ever be approached(completely different topic). That’s what I tried to touch on in my earlier post: Elin comes off as quite the bitch in ‘her story’ because she doesn’t just stop at the ‘woe is me’ part(which is all understandable, she went through some emotional trauma). She continues on to take more shots at Tiger as if he isn’t losing anything besides the money and the real estate.
I actually have 0 sympathy for Tiger as far as the money is concerned(as IH and ID pointed out: prenup with an adultery clause and you still fucked around?). I do have some sympathy for the way he is being railroaded as apparently some inhuman robot who has no attachment to his children or his wife(it is possible that he cares for her but wasn’t sexually fulfilled, hardly an excuse because a responsible adult relationship would deal with that, but cheating doesn’t mean he was indifferent about Elin).[/quote]
I think I mostly agree with this. But answer me this. Do you think it’s fair for a Divorcee to get half her/his spouse’s worth even money made before marriage?
To me that law is total utter bullshit.[/quote]
In most common law cases I totally agree that it’s pretty BS, but that’s because usually people forego the prenup and then get raped figuratively by that decision, that’s pretty shady. This case is obviously different: Tiger knew what would break that contract and did it anyways, that money(earned or not) is hers because he essentially agreed it would be if he did what he did. I was much more inflamed about the money issue before hearing about the prenup, because I thought it was silly that she was going to get a few hundred mil for being a housewife(I’m not saying that’s worth nothing ladies, we had that discussion in the original divorce settlement thread). Now, not so much.
Oh Man TOM LEYKIS would have a field day with this. COME back TOM we need you more than ever.
If only TIGER TOOK LEYKIS 101.