[quote]eeu743 wrote:
[quote]attydeb2005 wrote:
You make a good point eeu. Prenup?[/quote]
Are u proposing?[/quote]
[quote]Professor X wrote:
You see, THAT was the point being made…over and over and over again…one that neither you nor anyone else has disproven or explained away. [/quote]
Fuck that I expained the hell out of it, I even then bumped my own explanation of it because you failed to acknowledge that I had explained it. Then you responded to the post but not to respond, you responded to tell me you don’t have time to respond. And you still haven’t.
My boy, YES the courts give women the advantage in a divorce, and as explained before, it was ORIGIONALLY like that to protect women who by and large were homemakers and did not and could not go into the workforce and fend for themselves. And YES the courts and governemnt in general is DRASTICALLY slow at responding to change like women entering the workforce. Generally the government will only respond quickly to things that SOCIETY AS A WHOLE is unhappy with.
My point was how in the name of fuck are you surprised or shocked that this is the way it is.
I am the only person on this thread that addressed this and you just ignored me and then you tell Emily that no one is responding to the real question you have which is what I just answered, twice now.
V
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Elin Nordegren on Tiger Woods: ‘I’ve been through hell’
[quote]The three key takeaways from Nordegren’s story are:
â?¢ She says she is in no way a violent person, calling any speculation that she swung a golf club at Woods on Thanksgiving night “ridiculous.”
â?¢ She was completely broadsided by the news of Woods’ extramarital affairs, believing that she was the only woman in his life. In short, she was as surprised as most of the rest of the world that the persona Woods put forth â?? dedicated competitor, family man â?? was a carefully constructed sham. “I’m so embarassed that I never suspected [his affairs] â?? not a one,” she said.
â?¢ In line with that, she said she believed fully that her relationship with Woods was a real marriage, not an act orchestrated for cameras and sponsors. “The word betrayal is just not strong enough,” she told People. “I have been through the stages of disbelief and shock to anger and ultimately grief over the loss of the family I so badly wanted for my children.” [/quote]
Has she really been through hell? This woman is now carrying more cash in her wallet than most states in this country yet she’s been through hell?
Are you fucking kidding me?
This right here is why marriage is not worth the effort if you happen to be a celebrity…or hell, even just someone who has something to lose in a divorce. It isn’t that she just speaks out about an affair, but more that she spends so much time dragging Tiger’s name further through the mud (if that’s possible) by acting like his life is all a sham.
Just a question to you guys who got married…if it ever went south, would your girl be out to destroy you?
If so, it it worth it?[/quote]
I have no sympathy for him. This was all under his control. The guy slept with everyone. this is not a case of her screwing around and demanding half his cash and lying about him being abusive etc.
Easy way to make marriage work:
(1) Wife inherits millions and a house which is huge.
(2) Wife has 6 figure job with tenure
(3) Wife buys hubby new Dodge Ram Truck (favorite) every couple of years
The hubby then would be a fcking idiot to make wife unhappy.
How easy was that? sheesh… 
[quote]Vegita wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
You see, THAT was the point being made…over and over and over again…one that neither you nor anyone else has disproven or explained away. [/quote]
Fuck that I expained the hell out of it, I even then bumped my own explanation of it because you failed to acknowledge that I had explained it. Then you responded to the post but not to respond, you responded to tell me you don’t have time to respond. And you still haven’t.
My boy, YES the courts give women the advantage in a divorce, and as explained before, it was ORIGIONALLY like that to protect women who by and large were homemakers and did not and could not go into the workforce and fend for themselves. And YES the courts and governemnt in general is DRASTICALLY slow at responding to change like women entering the workforce. Generally the government will only respond quickly to things that SOCIETY AS A WHOLE is unhappy with.
My point was how in the name of fuck are you surprised or shocked that this is the way it is.
I am the only person on this thread that addressed this and you just ignored me and then you tell Emily that no one is responding to the real question you have which is what I just answered, twice now.
V[/quote]
Dude, shut the fuck up. This board slows the fuck down any time I try responding to more than one post…and you know me by now, I usually respond to several at the same time and most of these take less than a minute to type. I just don’t have the 2 hours to wait for this site to load.
Yes, you answered the post before and I will respond to this one now.
Yes, you were supposed to be at my house for steak and ribs this past weekend but you bailed so you could clip your wife’s toenails…and that’s cool because she has nice feet…but don’t talk to me about being ignored!!!
I never said I was SHOCKED by this. I am making the statement that if it doesn’t change, then WE need to protect OURSELVES.
Get it, homeboy?
[quote]tom63 wrote:
I have no sympathy for him. This was all under his control. The guy slept with everyone. this is not a case of her screwing around and demanding half his cash and lying about him being abusive etc. [/quote]
Didn’t his wife sing an agreement to stop talking about him in public? If so, that is what I am referring to…that and her clear attempt at publicity all while claiming the kids are so screwed up by this…so let’s bring MORE publicity.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Vegita wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
You see, THAT was the point being made…over and over and over again…one that neither you nor anyone else has disproven or explained away. [/quote]
Fuck that I expained the hell out of it, I even then bumped my own explanation of it because you failed to acknowledge that I had explained it. Then you responded to the post but not to respond, you responded to tell me you don’t have time to respond. And you still haven’t.
My boy, YES the courts give women the advantage in a divorce, and as explained before, it was ORIGIONALLY like that to protect women who by and large were homemakers and did not and could not go into the workforce and fend for themselves. And YES the courts and governemnt in general is DRASTICALLY slow at responding to change like women entering the workforce. Generally the government will only respond quickly to things that SOCIETY AS A WHOLE is unhappy with.
My point was how in the name of fuck are you surprised or shocked that this is the way it is.
I am the only person on this thread that addressed this and you just ignored me and then you tell Emily that no one is responding to the real question you have which is what I just answered, twice now.
V[/quote]
Dude, shut the fuck up. This board slows the fuck down any time I try responding to more than one post…and you know me by now, I usually respond to several at the same time and most of these take less than a minute to type. I just don’t have the 2 hours to wait for this site to load.
Yes, you answered the post before and I will respond to this one now.
Yes, you were supposed to be at my house for steak and ribs this past weekend but you bailed so you could clip your wife’s toenails…and that’s cool because she has nice feet…but don’t talk to me about being ignored!!!
I never said I was SHOCKED by this. I am making the statement that if it doesn’t change, then WE need to protect OURSELVES.
Get it, homeboy?[/quote]
OK, thats fine and You are probably right, if I was a guy making 6 figures per year and met a girl who made 25K per year and we decided to get married inside of a couple years, I most likley would protect my assets. BUT Being that I am rational and smart enough to protect my assests, I know that a Pre-Nup is not bulletproof, so in reality, I would let the young lady wait for another 3-4 years so we know eachother inside and out and I wouldn’t be as concerned after 6 or 7 years with someone that they would screw me over.
So MY point is that the prenup is not the best way to protect yourself, spending more time with your future wife is a better protection. Also Waiting that long will tell you about someones character. If she starts getting overly concerned with it, you know you have a potential problem and it’s even more of a reason to wait.
From my point of view, a couple needs to spend 5 years together MINIMUM before marriage is a realistic possibility.
Also Sorry about the steak and ribs, you know wifey, if her toes are looking long, she just doesn’t give out the poon as much.
V
I’m currently going through a divorce, I didn’t cheat and my wife has completely turned on me like we never spent 12 years together raising our children…There is just no respect…
I came home from work to a CLEARED house…She took my two kids and didn’t tell me where they were…I finally tracked them down using county recorder address records of her parents properties. She does not like her parents and had not spoken to them in almost 8 years, so I didn’t know where they lived.
I finally found them and they wouldn’t let me see my kids and ordered me off the property and then proceeded to order me off the property, she got a restraining order against me claiming years of physical abuse, in which there was absolutely none…
So I haven’t seen my kids in 5 weeks and i am currently working through the legal system to get the restraining order lifted and clear my name…
So marriage is not good in my opinion…
[quote]oracleguru wrote:
I’m currently going through a divorce, I didn’t cheat and my wife has completely turned on me like we never spent 12 years together raising our children…There is just no respect…
I came home from work to a CLEARED house…She took my two kids and didn’t tell me where they were…I finally tracked them down using county recorder address records of her parents properties. She does not like her parents and had not spoken to them in almost 8 years, so I didn’t know where they lived.
I finally found them and they wouldn’t let me see my kids and ordered me off the property and then proceeded to order me off the property, she got a restraining order against me claiming years of physical abuse, in which there was absolutely none…
So I haven’t seen my kids in 5 weeks and i am currently working through the legal system to get the restraining order lifted and clear my name…
So marriage is not good in my opinion…
:)[/quote]
That’s fucked man, I hope you get to see your kids.
V
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]tom63 wrote:
I have no sympathy for him. This was all under his control. The guy slept with everyone. this is not a case of her screwing around and demanding half his cash and lying about him being abusive etc. [/quote]
Didn’t his wife sing an agreement to stop talking about him in public? If so, that is what I am referring to…that and her clear attempt at publicity all while claiming the kids are so screwed up by this…so let’s bring MORE publicity.[/quote]
If so then she is violating it and should have repercussions. However, maybe Tiger’s lawyers are telling him to let it go, play golf and make back money. I don’t read celebrity news because I think it’s stupid. People magazine is not something I take seriously, but if he responds and makes some issue of it, he looks bad.
This is all on him. His actions set this in motion and caused all his problems. He’s just another celebrity who thinks he could get away with it and then sings the blues after he’s caught. And they’ll both be rich beyond my imagination for the rest of their lives.
[quote]oracleguru wrote:
I’m currently going through a divorce, I didn’t cheat and my wife has completely turned on me like we never spent 12 years together raising our children…There is just no respect…
I came home from work to a CLEARED house…She took my two kids and didn’t tell me where they were…I finally tracked them down using county recorder address records of her parents properties. She does not like her parents and had not spoken to them in almost 8 years, so I didn’t know where they lived.
I finally found them and they wouldn’t let me see my kids and then proceeded to order me off the property, she got a restraining order against me claiming years of physical abuse, in which there was absolutely none…
So I haven’t seen my kids in 5 weeks and i am currently working through the legal system to get the restraining order lifted and clear my name…
So marriage is not good in my opinion…
:)[/quote]
Oracle…have you met EmilyQ and her band of “Marriage is the bestest thing on Earth” followers?
According to them, you clearly did something to cause that because they know of way more pleasant loving divorces where the guy wasn’t screwed.
[quote]oracleguru wrote:
I’m currently going through a divorce, I didn’t cheat and my wife has completely turned on me like we never spent 12 years together raising our children…There is just no respect…
I came home from work to a CLEARED house…She took my two kids and didn’t tell me where they were…I finally tracked them down using county recorder address records of her parents properties. She does not like her parents and had not spoken to them in almost 8 years, so I didn’t know where they lived.
I finally found them and they wouldn’t let me see my kids and ordered me off the property and then proceeded to order me off the property, she got a restraining order against me claiming years of physical abuse, in which there was absolutely none…
So I haven’t seen my kids in 5 weeks and i am currently working through the legal system to get the restraining order lifted and clear my name…
So marriage is not good in my opinion…
:)[/quote]
That’s fucking awful man. Especially taking your kids - how the fuck could anyone do that?
If I found out my wife was fucking a football team behind my back, I still would never use my daughter against her like that - man, no matter what, you are a real piece of shit if you fuck with your kid’s lives like that.
[quote]SkyNett wrote:
[quote]oracleguru wrote:
I’m currently going through a divorce, I didn’t cheat and my wife has completely turned on me like we never spent 12 years together raising our children…There is just no respect…
I came home from work to a CLEARED house…She took my two kids and didn’t tell me where they were…I finally tracked them down using county recorder address records of her parents properties. She does not like her parents and had not spoken to them in almost 8 years, so I didn’t know where they lived.
I finally found them and they wouldn’t let me see my kids and ordered me off the property and then proceeded to order me off the property, she got a restraining order against me claiming years of physical abuse, in which there was absolutely none…
So I haven’t seen my kids in 5 weeks and i am currently working through the legal system to get the restraining order lifted and clear my name…
So marriage is not good in my opinion…
:)[/quote]
That’s fucking awful man. Especially taking your kids - how the fuck could anyone do that?
If I found out my wife was fucking a football team behind my back, I still would never use my daughter against her like that - man, no matter what, you are a real piece of shit if you fuck with your kid’s lives like that. [/quote]
Agreed and I did find my X fucking half the navy. While Tiger fucked up, his now X wife is fucking up even more. Hurting Tiger through his kids is not going to make up for the pain she felt by his betrayal. Old saying two wrongs dont make a right, (but 4 rights make a square :))
[quote]Vegita wrote:
OK, thats fine and You are probably right, if I was a guy making 6 figures per year and met a girl who made 25K per year and we decided to get married inside of a couple years, I most likley would protect my assets. BUT Being that I am rational and smart enough to protect my assests, I know that a Pre-Nup is not bulletproof, so in reality, I would let the young lady wait for another 3-4 years so we know eachother inside and out and I wouldn’t be as concerned after 6 or 7 years with someone that they would screw me over. [/quote]
No one said a prenupt is bullet proof. However, you would dumb as shit in this day and age to go into marriage with no thought towards one at all unless you literally don’t own shit.
[quote]
So MY point is that the prenup is not the best way to protect yourself, spending more time with your future wife is a better protection. Also Waiting that long will tell you about someones character. If she starts getting overly concerned with it, you know you have a potential problem and it’s even more of a reason to wait.
From my point of view, a couple needs to spend 5 years together MINIMUM before marriage is a realistic possibility. [/quote]
That’s all well and good, but my assistant got divorced from her high school “sweet heart”…and they hate each other now. You never know how things will turn out no matter how well you plan it.
[quote]
Also Sorry about the steak and ribs, you know wifey, if her toes are looking long, she just doesn’t give out the poon as much.
V[/quote]
That sucks.
Being single doesn’t require near as much “maintenance” work.
X, your stance is that guys that make a lot of money in a relationship that ends in divorce, gets the short end of the stick in the settlement?
That appears to be what you are repeatedly getting at. Do you have any other point to make, or are you giving people an opportunity to “prove” you wrong?
Right now, as it stands, this seems to be a dead topic.
However, I did find a gem out of this discussion that actually made worth reading:
[quote]
Of course the news is going to highlight a situation like Tiger Woods, but “rich guy that no one knows finalized his divorce today, and he kept most of his assets while having joint custody of their children, and left his wife with enough money to float her expenses until she can find a job”… wow that story really caught my eye, let me flip to page 13 to get the whole scoop! [/quote]
Overall, we live in a dishonest world. Some times the wife wins, sometimes the husband wins. I like and agree with what was said earlier: if you feel that you are in a vulnerable position, financially, if things went south, it is best to wait for the other person’s actions show to you that you can trust them. If that never happens, maybe the relationship just isn’t right.
Those that are faithful to you in the least of things are more likely to be faithful in the bigger things.
[quote]DJHT wrote:
[quote]SkyNett wrote:
[quote]oracleguru wrote:
I’m currently going through a divorce, I didn’t cheat and my wife has completely turned on me like we never spent 12 years together raising our children…There is just no respect…
I came home from work to a CLEARED house…She took my two kids and didn’t tell me where they were…I finally tracked them down using county recorder address records of her parents properties. She does not like her parents and had not spoken to them in almost 8 years, so I didn’t know where they lived.
I finally found them and they wouldn’t let me see my kids and ordered me off the property and then proceeded to order me off the property, she got a restraining order against me claiming years of physical abuse, in which there was absolutely none…
So I haven’t seen my kids in 5 weeks and i am currently working through the legal system to get the restraining order lifted and clear my name…
So marriage is not good in my opinion…
:)[/quote]
That’s fucking awful man. Especially taking your kids - how the fuck could anyone do that?
If I found out my wife was fucking a football team behind my back, I still would never use my daughter against her like that - man, no matter what, you are a real piece of shit if you fuck with your kid’s lives like that. [/quote]
Agreed and I did find my X fucking half the navy. While Tiger fucked up, his now X wife is fucking up even more. Hurting Tiger through his kids is not going to make up for the pain she felt by his betrayal. Old saying two wrongs dont make a right, (but 4 rights make a square :))[/quote]
You see…that was the point of the whole thread before the Pre-menstrual Party Poopers crashed the thread.
Yah it sucks…I love my kids and they would go everywhere with me, home depot, wherever…I took them to all their softball and soccer practices while her lazy ass sat on the couch watching “i didn’t know I was pregnant” on TV…
This is proof positive of what kind of person I put up with for 12 years…
Yep…she’s a bad person…I think without me trying to talk some sense into her all the time…Her true colors came out like gang busters…She will be judged for this…
[quote]SkyNett wrote:
[quote]oracleguru wrote:
I’m currently going through a divorce, I didn’t cheat and my wife has completely turned on me like we never spent 12 years together raising our children…There is just no respect…
I came home from work to a CLEARED house…She took my two kids and didn’t tell me where they were…I finally tracked them down using county recorder address records of her parents properties. She does not like her parents and had not spoken to them in almost 8 years, so I didn’t know where they lived.
I finally found them and they wouldn’t let me see my kids and ordered me off the property and then proceeded to order me off the property, she got a restraining order against me claiming years of physical abuse, in which there was absolutely none…
So I haven’t seen my kids in 5 weeks and i am currently working through the legal system to get the restraining order lifted and clear my name…
So marriage is not good in my opinion…
:)[/quote]
That’s fucking awful man. Especially taking your kids - how the fuck could anyone do that?
If I found out my wife was fucking a football team behind my back, I still would never use my daughter against her like that - man, no matter what, you are a real piece of shit if you fuck with your kid’s lives like that. [/quote]
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]DJHT wrote:
[quote]SkyNett wrote:
[quote]oracleguru wrote:
I’m currently going through a divorce, I didn’t cheat and my wife has completely turned on me like we never spent 12 years together raising our children…There is just no respect…
I came home from work to a CLEARED house…She took my two kids and didn’t tell me where they were…I finally tracked them down using county recorder address records of her parents properties. She does not like her parents and had not spoken to them in almost 8 years, so I didn’t know where they lived.
I finally found them and they wouldn’t let me see my kids and ordered me off the property and then proceeded to order me off the property, she got a restraining order against me claiming years of physical abuse, in which there was absolutely none…
So I haven’t seen my kids in 5 weeks and i am currently working through the legal system to get the restraining order lifted and clear my name…
So marriage is not good in my opinion…
:)[/quote]
That’s fucking awful man. Especially taking your kids - how the fuck could anyone do that?
If I found out my wife was fucking a football team behind my back, I still would never use my daughter against her like that - man, no matter what, you are a real piece of shit if you fuck with your kid’s lives like that. [/quote]
Agreed and I did find my X fucking half the navy. While Tiger fucked up, his now X wife is fucking up even more. Hurting Tiger through his kids is not going to make up for the pain she felt by his betrayal. Old saying two wrongs dont make a right, (but 4 rights make a square :))[/quote]
You see…that was the point of the whole thread before the Pre-menstrual Party Poopers crashed the thread.[/quote]
Now X if you started a thread that said the sky is blue, you would have people that are going to argue with YOU.
[quote]DJHT wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]DJHT wrote:
[quote]SkyNett wrote:
[quote]oracleguru wrote:
I’m currently going through a divorce, I didn’t cheat and my wife has completely turned on me like we never spent 12 years together raising our children…There is just no respect…
I came home from work to a CLEARED house…She took my two kids and didn’t tell me where they were…I finally tracked them down using county recorder address records of her parents properties. She does not like her parents and had not spoken to them in almost 8 years, so I didn’t know where they lived.
I finally found them and they wouldn’t let me see my kids and ordered me off the property and then proceeded to order me off the property, she got a restraining order against me claiming years of physical abuse, in which there was absolutely none…
So I haven’t seen my kids in 5 weeks and i am currently working through the legal system to get the restraining order lifted and clear my name…
So marriage is not good in my opinion…
:)[/quote]
That’s fucking awful man. Especially taking your kids - how the fuck could anyone do that?
If I found out my wife was fucking a football team behind my back, I still would never use my daughter against her like that - man, no matter what, you are a real piece of shit if you fuck with your kid’s lives like that. [/quote]
Agreed and I did find my X fucking half the navy. While Tiger fucked up, his now X wife is fucking up even more. Hurting Tiger through his kids is not going to make up for the pain she felt by his betrayal. Old saying two wrongs dont make a right, (but 4 rights make a square :))[/quote]
You see…that was the point of the whole thread before the Pre-menstrual Party Poopers crashed the thread.[/quote]
Now X if you started a thread that said the sky is blue, you would have people that are going to argue with YOU. [/quote]
Cause it’s not always blue, wanna argue about it?
V
[quote]Vegita wrote:
[quote]DJHT wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]DJHT wrote:
[quote]SkyNett wrote:
[quote]oracleguru wrote:
I’m currently going through a divorce, I didn’t cheat and my wife has completely turned on me like we never spent 12 years together raising our children…There is just no respect…
I came home from work to a CLEARED house…She took my two kids and didn’t tell me where they were…I finally tracked them down using county recorder address records of her parents properties. She does not like her parents and had not spoken to them in almost 8 years, so I didn’t know where they lived.
I finally found them and they wouldn’t let me see my kids and ordered me off the property and then proceeded to order me off the property, she got a restraining order against me claiming years of physical abuse, in which there was absolutely none…
So I haven’t seen my kids in 5 weeks and i am currently working through the legal system to get the restraining order lifted and clear my name…
So marriage is not good in my opinion…
:)[/quote]
That’s fucking awful man. Especially taking your kids - how the fuck could anyone do that?
If I found out my wife was fucking a football team behind my back, I still would never use my daughter against her like that - man, no matter what, you are a real piece of shit if you fuck with your kid’s lives like that. [/quote]
Agreed and I did find my X fucking half the navy. While Tiger fucked up, his now X wife is fucking up even more. Hurting Tiger through his kids is not going to make up for the pain she felt by his betrayal. Old saying two wrongs dont make a right, (but 4 rights make a square :))[/quote]
You see…that was the point of the whole thread before the Pre-menstrual Party Poopers crashed the thread.[/quote]
Now X if you started a thread that said the sky is blue, you would have people that are going to argue with YOU. [/quote]
Cause it’s not always blue, wanna argue about it?
V[/quote]
Lol yea the color in my world is actually more of a black, no wait its blue right now, but sometimes it is black. I knew you would take a shot at this V. Thanks made me laugh.