Hijack: HOV’s avatar, that dude is one scary looking dude and border guards let him waltz right in to the good ol US of A even after confiscating a bloody chainsaw and home made swords. They had no knowledge of him decapitating an ederly man and stabbing his wife to death but look at the dude, he’s obviously loco!! Good job Mr Border Guard!!!
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[quote]Professor X wrote:
halflife wrote:
BigHog wrote:
About the quad thing. I bet these guys may not train them directly but probably play b-ball, pick up football and stuff so they probably are pretty quick and can jump pretty high.
and running from the cops.
That was, like, so original and stuff. I mean, they are black, use slang and lift weights. [/quote]
I know that everyone in the US is on “high alert” when it comes to racism, but when you call your training DVD “Thug Training” it will undoubtedly conjure up these types of images. Seriously, what else is supposed to come to mind when you think of a thug?
you guys…
you can get extremely strong from bodyweight moves.
think about it to do a full iron cross, your forearms have to curl at least half bw, and lats and everything works fucking hard!
the thing is people start with BW and instead of going higher in the difficulty rating they just add more reps.
it’s like lifting 135 on bench and instead of pilling on the plates you just rep it out till you get 100 reps, does anyone believe you’ll bench 3 plates or get stronger if you stay @ 135 all the time?FUck no same thing with pushups. once you can do 25 1 arm pushups strap weight on you back once you can do 25 reps 1 arm pushups with 100lbs starpped on yo back you’ll be strong. anyone doesn’t believe me?
[quote]BigMike wrote:
MarcAnthony wrote:
what else is supposed to come to mind when you think of a thug?
white children buying it
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The Boston Globe
4 October 2003
[quote]“There’s a vacuum in music made by white kids for white kids,” said musicologist Arthur Kempton, author of “Boogaloo: The Quintessence of American Popular Music.” “White pop and rock is fragmented into so many different strains and when that happens black music fills the vacuum. It happened in the early '60s, before the British Invasion, when Motown was established. Today 70 percent of hip-hop is bought by white kids.”
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It’s called marketing and the Ruff Ryders aren’t that stupid.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
BigMike wrote:
MarcAnthony wrote:
what else is supposed to come to mind when you think of a thug?
white children buying it
The Boston Globe
4 October 2003
“There’s a vacuum in music made by white kids for white kids,” said musicologist Arthur Kempton, author of “Boogaloo: The Quintessence of American Popular Music.” “White pop and rock is fragmented into so many different strains and when that happens black music fills the vacuum. It happened in the early '60s, before the British Invasion, when Motown was established. Today 70 percent of hip-hop is bought by white kids.”
It’s called marketing and the Ruff Ryders aren’t that stupid.[/quote]
I agree. In the first clip I got the feeling that guy was pretty educated about training and more well spoken than he was letting on. It seemed like he was trying to act thuggish.
I have a friend whose college roomate actually lived in the same neighborhood as DMX. Apparently DMX got pissed when any of the kids in his neighborhood called him “DMX” instead of “Mr. Simmons.” At least that is what I was told.
Anyway, these guys are pretty built and have a great chinning skills. Crossfit could learn a thing or two from them. Kipping for sets of 10 just doesn’t seem very challenging by comparison.
[quote]Holo wrote:
you guys…
you can get extremely strong from bodyweight moves.
think about it to do a full iron cross, your forearms have to curl at least half bw, and lats and everything works fucking hard!
the thing is people start with BW and instead of going higher in the difficulty rating they just add more reps.
it’s like lifting 135 on bench and instead of pilling on the plates you just rep it out till you get 100 reps, does anyone believe you’ll bench 3 plates or get stronger if you stay @ 135 all the time?FUck no same thing with pushups. once you can do 25 1 arm pushups strap weight on you back once you can do 25 reps 1 arm pushups with 100lbs starpped on yo back you’ll be strong. anyone doesn’t believe me?
ya feel me?
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I used to have a guy just like that in my gym. Every week I’d see hims do the same workout…super fast kipping pull-ups for 12-15 reps and benching 135 for 3x10-12. On the other hand, he was so skinny that that was probably almost his bodyweight.
He also always wore short running shorts with a tank top to lift in. It reminded me of Billy Madison.
One thing to take into consideration is that these guys have probably been doing this for years. You could achieve better results with only a few years of hardcore bulking and training.
[quote]HOV wrote:
I did bodyweight exercises solely for several periods of a few years. I had all the motivation and intensity I could muster. At times I’d do 500 push-ups and then go swim breast stroke for a 1/2 mile.
But I never had the size or strength I later developed as a result of lifting weights. I had a real hard time putting on mass with just bodyweight exercises. A few years and 40 pounds of LBM later, I feel much stronger with my weight workouts. And I can still do pushups, pullups, dips, etc. quite easily. But I definitely couldn’t lift big when I was doing bodyweight stuff.
You can twirl yourself around however you wish, but it still ends up being your bodyweight or less.
I have a feeling that genetics plays a big role with these guys. Get some chinese guys doing that stuff (or 1/2 chinese like me) and you’ll have a bunch of bruce lee-looking mofos running around.[/quote]
There are plenty of way to make bodyweight exerciese extremely difficult.
straddle planche
front lever
one arm delcine push ups
one arm pull ups
freestanding hand stand push ups on parallel bars
etc…