Thoughts on Lifting and Bodybuilding

[quote]Spidey22 wrote:

[quote]confusion wrote:

[quote]Spidey22 wrote:

[quote]confusion wrote:

I got pretty big doing it too.
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How big are you? I know you asked about my avi picture earlier (still not sure why), do you have any pics up? [/quote]

6’6" 260lbs[/quote]

You don’t look bad dude. But I’m still curious why you called me out?
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I honestly didn’t mean to call you out. I was referring to yogi actually. I was just curious about your pic cuz you look good

[quote]confusion wrote:

[quote]Spidey22 wrote:

[quote]confusion wrote:

[quote]Spidey22 wrote:

[quote]confusion wrote:

I got pretty big doing it too.
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How big are you? I know you asked about my avi picture earlier (still not sure why), do you have any pics up? [/quote]

6’6" 260lbs[/quote]

You don’t look bad dude. But I’m still curious why you called me out?
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I honestly didn’t mean to call you out. I was referring to yogi actually. I was just curious about your pic cuz you look good
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Ohh well I was just wondering, it was an odd question not to follow up on.

I’m glad you’re not really a Muppet IRL like your avi shows lol

While I am at it,I might as well take a swipe at that “what exactly did you eat yesterday?” crap also. as long as you’re eating enuf to grow,you’re good to go…unless you’re competitive bodybuilding. You can get big and fairly lean without following a specific diet. Eat a lot of protein AND carbs and fats and train properly. I think this can get most newbies to a physique they are satisfied with.

[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:

[quote]confusion wrote:
That’s cute, busting my chops for actually doing a challenge you ignored.

I might consider one that makes me bigger stronger and leaner…I am sure you get my point. Yes,I am aware some people thrive on this sort of thing,and I am perfectly cool with that…[/quote]

I have been doing this for the past 2 months and went from squatting 405 for 6 reps to 16 as of yesterday.

Set 1: Heavy set of squats (something like 6RM)
Set 2: Same weight, half as many reps (round up)
Set 3: Take off a plate per side (or 25lbs per side if using lighter weights), perform as many reps as possible
Set 4: Same weight as set 3, half as many reps

Train once a week. Each session, add a rep to sets 1 and 3. When you hit 20 reps for set 3, stay at 20, make set 4 AMRAP and add a 5th set for half as many reps as set 4.

Give it a try. Your legs will be sore for days, haha.[/quote]

thanks. I will try this!

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]johnflower wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:
Hunter gatherers look like shit. They relied on, and continue to rely on hunting techniques for survival. [/quote]

You’re quite right. Also a good reason to avoid paleo diet… they only lived to about 35. I’ll refine my sense of aesthetics.[/quote]

Well, it’s not really a reason to avoid Paleo. [/quote]
That life expectancy also probably includes infant death, meaning those who survived infancy lived a lot longer than 35 years.

[quote]Spidey22 wrote:

[quote]confusion wrote:

[quote]Spidey22 wrote:

[quote]confusion wrote:

[quote]Spidey22 wrote:

[quote]confusion wrote:

I got pretty big doing it too.
[/quote]

How big are you? I know you asked about my avi picture earlier (still not sure why), do you have any pics up? [/quote]

6’6" 260lbs[/quote]

You don’t look bad dude. But I’m still curious why you called me out?
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I honestly didn’t mean to call you out. I was referring to yogi actually. I was just curious about your pic cuz you look good
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Ohh well I was just wondering, it was an odd question not to follow up on.

I’m glad you’re not really a Muppet IRL like your avi shows lol[/quote]

Lol. All good. I am following your log,keep going hard. Confusion

[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:

I have been doing this for the past 2 months and went from squatting 405 for 6 reps to 16 as of yesterday.

Set 1: Heavy set of squats (something like 6RM)
Set 2: Same weight, half as many reps (round up)
Set 3: Take off a plate per side (or 25lbs per side if using lighter weights), perform as many reps as possible
Set 4: Same weight as set 3, half as many reps

Train once a week. Each session, add a rep to sets 1 and 3. When you hit 20 reps for set 3, stay at 20, make set 4 AMRAP and add a 5th set for half as many reps as set 4.

Give it a try. Your legs will be sore for days, haha.[/quote]

I am very tempted to try this. Looks fun.

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote] confusion wrote:
Some of the guys criticizing him have no photos posted and some are on gear.
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I’m not even criticizing him and I’m on gear. With no photos :frowning:

Is this a novel riff on the classic “you have no pics -DYEL” cop out?[/quote]

dude, check his logs. He achieved middle aged fat guy without drugs

[quote]Yogi wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote] confusion wrote:
Some of the guys criticizing him have no photos posted and some are on gear.
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I’m not even criticizing him and I’m on gear. With no photos :frowning:

Is this a novel riff on the classic “you have no pics -DYEL” cop out?[/quote]

dude, check his logs. He achieved middle aged fat guy without drugs[/quote]

Do you even inject?

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]Yogi wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote] confusion wrote:
Some of the guys criticizing him have no photos posted and some are on gear.
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I’m not even criticizing him and I’m on gear. With no photos :frowning:

Is this a novel riff on the classic “you have no pics -DYEL” cop out?[/quote]

dude, check his logs. He achieved middle aged fat guy without drugs[/quote]

Do you even inject?
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inject, yes. Lift? Never. Makes me far too sweaty.

[quote]Yogi wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote] confusion wrote:
Some of the guys criticizing him have no photos posted and some are on gear.
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I’m not even criticizing him and I’m on gear. With no photos :frowning:

Is this a novel riff on the classic “you have no pics -DYEL” cop out?[/quote]

dude, check his logs. He achieved middle aged fat guy without drugs[/quote]

You must mean this recent pic. And when you’re trying to sound like snoop dog or whoever and call aas shizzel in the steroid section? That’s cool yogi. And you’ve heard of synergy with anabolic compounds? You and roybot together can pin the asshole meter to 100% baby. Flame me somewhere else. Not on johnflowers post

looking shredded bro, how’d you get those sweet extra chins? No matter how hard I try to develop mine it just stays lean. Maybe I should just eat whatever I want like you.

Abs are looking killer too, I just love that you have no definition anywhere. But hey, you weigh a lot so you must be impressive.

Loving that greasy redneck mullet.

Seriously, do you even bent? I’d say you look like shit but the dump I took this morning was Monica Belluci compared to you.

…and are those tattoos on your chest cocks? Look kinda like cocks…

[quote]confusion wrote:

[quote]Yogi wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote] confusion wrote:
Some of the guys criticizing him have no photos posted and some are on gear.
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I’m not even criticizing him and I’m on gear. With no photos :frowning:

Is this a novel riff on the classic “you have no pics -DYEL” cop out?[/quote]

dude, check his logs. He achieved middle aged fat guy without drugs[/quote]

You must mean this recent pic. And when you’re trying to sound like snoop dog or whoever and call aas shizzel in the steroid section? That’s cool yogi. And you’ve heard of synergy with anabolic compounds? You and roybot together can pin the asshole meter to 100% baby. Flame me somewhere else. Not on johnflowers post
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Lol- don’t even try to take the moral high ground on this. You accused me of AAS usage with zero evidence, so there’s clearly something that YOU need to get off your chest.

[quote]roybot wrote:
there’s clearly something that YOU need to get off your chest.[/quote]

about 50lbs of lard by the looks of it

HIGH FIVE

[quote]confusion wrote:
I am not saying what johnflower is doing will work. I like that he is thinking outside the box and keeping it real. I like the questions he asks cuz the make me think. I was training once a week following the philosophy of a mr olympia winner that I respect. Chris Colluci told me I was only playing with weights and that it was retarded for me to give a newbie advice advocating once a week training. I’m sure he will be able to explain away the fact that I have a big back compared to him and got it by training once a week. [/quote]

It was folly to be recommending Mentzer’s Heavy Duty to beginners. You were adamant that it was going to work indefinitely and it didn’t. You’ve admitted to that in this thread (in anticipation of you making me find the quote, I may as well just post it now):

[quote]confusion wrote:
for quite a while I was training one time a week. I was following the ideas of a body builder named Mike Mentzer. I got to a point where my training stalled and I had to be honest with myself that I wasn’t getting bigger and stronger. [/quote]

Also, in the spirit of ‘keeping it real’ (which I know you’ll appreciate) you’ve been training for ten years. I’d expect anybody to make noticeable progress within that time frame. And before you say it, No way have you been doing HIT for a decade (a year maybe, tops).

[quote]Yogi wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:
there’s clearly something that YOU need to get off your chest.[/quote]

about 50lbs of lard by the looks of it

HIGH FIVE[/quote]

I’m not gonna comment on his pics. Call it a personal rule I abide by.

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]Yogi wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:
there’s clearly something that YOU need to get off your chest.[/quote]

about 50lbs of lard by the looks of it

HIGH FIVE[/quote]

I’m not gonna comment on his pics. Call it a personal rule I abide by. [/quote]

meh, when I’m bored at work I have no morals

roybot,when I made that.post I swore I could remember you giving advice in the steroid forum a couple years ago. Now I am not so sure. Its not cool of me to acuse you of that and I am sorry. I mean that. I will edit the post if you like?

You were adamant that it was going to work indefinitely and it didn’t.

actually,I said I would keep doing it til it stopped working

[quote]Yogi wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:
there’s clearly something that YOU need to get off your chest.[/quote]

about 50lbs of lard by the looks of it

HIGH FIVE[/quote]

I am glad you said this and the comment about the chins. It will motivate me to try harder. Dieting down to 210-220lbs would probably be a good idea. Maybe because you don’t have the balls to post pics of.yourself,you can at least post a pic of the turd you’re talking about. At least we will know that you aren’t lying about that too.