This Thing We Do

[quote]hel320 wrote:
Early this morning:
Squat:
135x8
185x8
225x6x3
(3 fingers from each hand on the bar! I felt damn near flexible. These are having the added effect of helping me loosen up my shoulders. New screen name will be gumby!)

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That increased flexibility is great to see, Hel! Keep at it: stretching through squats – a new fitness video?

Been hot, been swimming the last couple of days. Went to the gym at 300am this morning. Sign at the bank said 81 degrees.
This morning:
Squats
135wu
185x8
225x8x4

Bench
135wu
225x8
245x8x4
Hammer Incline
90wu
180x10x4
Hammer dip machine
90wu
140x12x4
Calve Raises
115x Max x 4

Vid of Squat warm up. Sorry for the angle. Nowhere to really put the camera. Maybe someone will see something wrong with the way I’m getting under the bar. I’m getting 3 fingers on it now. Could go lower, too. No fashion/style critiques, please.

[quote]hel320 wrote:

Vid of Squat warm up. Sorry for the angle. Nowhere to really put the camera. Maybe someone will see something wrong with the way I’m getting under the bar. I’m getting 3 fingers on it now. Could go lower, too. No fashion/style critiques, please.
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For what it worth, from my beginner point of view I don’t see anything wrong with how you are getting under the bar. It probably looks easier on the video that it is in actuality. But it looked like you got under there without much difficulity.

Good powerful reps hel. Technique looked good from my untrained eye as well. But I know the vid doesnt begin to show what you feel.

I did notice you fill up the rack! You are a damn big strong man!

[quote]hel320 wrote:

Maybe someone will see something wrong with the way I’m getting under the bar. I’m getting 3 fingers on it now. Could go lower, too. No fashion/style critiques, please.
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Looked good to me. Since you have shoulder issues the most difficult part is going to be finding the most comfortable spot to put the bar on the back. In terms of bar path, the lower on the traps the better, but this will be hard because then you are supporting more weight with your shoulders/traps/rear delts. Find the spot that is comfortable, allows for a straight bar path, and is doable for the shoulders.

If you are at the gym at 3:00AM, you get to wear whatever you want…

Hel, along the lines of Mday’s comments I, too, wonder if you could carry the bar not way up olympic high like you got it at the top of your traps but powerlifter low on level with your rear delts. Then you may be able to drape your hands, including thumb, over the bar. But I could imagine there may be a reason why you are not doing so already.

In any event, you know you don’t have to really hold the bar then anyway with your hands, since your back is keeping it up. I don’t have the flexibility issues you do, but am no gumby myself, and placing the bar lower helped my positioning dramatically.

Agree more depth would be desirable. Asked for video, got a good one!

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Chief,

I echo MDAY and Geech. Of course it depends on what you are trying to do. Lower on the traps will put more stress on the wrists. Wider stance and sitting back will hit the Posterior chain a bit more.

Hey Do I need to send you a speedo? Swimming, reading labels…now you are sounding like me!

I’m working on getting the bar lower on my traps. Right now with my first lunge under the bar I’m wedge in. It’s coming though. Now that I’ve gotten back into squatting I’ll be widing my stance out more. Not really getting much of a leg workout yet but I’m going to start adding some weight.

And Mr Wilson, how you know I don’t already own several pair? The swimming this time of year kinda drives the wife crazy. She really hates it when I go swimming in the dark. Had a article the other day in the paper of a shark caught by a fisherman in the river. Told her it was a hoax. It was. Probably fraid I’d poison whatever bites me.

Big guy,

Last Saturday the brother in law caught a shark in the sound. 40 nautical miles from the inlet to the ocean. Sunday we saw dolphin at the bridge at the house. Thats about 60 nm in…

My wife would offer me to the sharks, crabs, bears, possums…

Only thing ever really scared me in the water. Shemya, Aleutian Islands, Berring Straits

Only a suicidal maniac would purposely go swimming in that water though. You need a survival suit to survive a quick dip.

Are you saying that you went swimming there, inadvertently?

Did 62 rescue missions from there of which 24 involved exiting the copter of which 17 involved water entry under non-SCUBA requiring conditions. Survival suit required. Mainly civilian trawlers and commercial fishing vessels. One non-scheduled entry due to failure of fixed wing aircraft to adequately compensate for “wind shear” on landing approach. Twice Orcas sufaced during recovery operations. They’re nosey bastards. Ain’t nothing like watching a 6’ dorsal fin rising out of the water and headed your way while you tread water. Hard as hell to clean the shit out of your survival suit, too.

[quote]hel320 wrote:
Ain’t nothing like watching a 6’ dorsal fin rising out of the water and headed your way while you tread water. Hard as hell to clean the shit out of your survival suit, too.[/quote]

What is there to be afraid of…Shamu always looked so friendly.

Great story hel. My neighbor was a CG ‘rescue swimmer’ before they figured out they needed a school to train them.

He talks of the same experiences. You guys that did and do that are cut of extremely rare cloth.

Now the Chief of the rescue boats at CGS Hatteras has some similar tales from his 10 years at Cape Disappointment.

Personally I’ll stay in the ‘brown’ water with moccasins and turtles

Shamu was in a tank. Hel was on their home turf. And in that situation one one is almost forced to consider that orcas have 2 rows of 3"-4" conical teeth, a yard long mouth and that they do, in fact, KILL WHALES.

I’m not widely read but have always had an interest in orcas. I’ve never heard of a case where an orca attacked a human being as a food item or even in play.

But being next to a free and wild one must be like standing in an African plain near a wild elephant. Might not hurt you, but you can’t help paying attention…


JW, Went to Elizabeth City several times working with the rescue swimmers and up in Sitka, Alaska, too. They even stole their motto from us “So Others May Live”. Ok, they changed it a little. (PS They swim real good since they don’t jump, do mountaineering, etc. Something we’d just occasionally mentioned to them in passing.)

PSS I’m off work, went to the gym real early, being lazy as hell now. I think Colin used the term once. I’ve become a “post whore”.

Your flexability will increase as you train the lift more.I think you will be able to hold the bar with your full false grip soon.As you continue to squat you will make some adjustments with stance and bar placement on you back.Great work and the vid is awesome.Now that orcha stuff is some crazy shit hel!!!

Thanks Jimmy, means a lot coming from you. False grip? Does that mean I don’t have my hands around the bar? Plan on starting to spread my feet wider beginning with the next workout. Nothing like a starting a new/old lift to get you fired up.

Last night
Power cleans
135wu,215x2repsx8sets (practing “catching” the bar.
Power snatchs
135x2x8sets
hammer curls
45x8x4
Face pulls
90x10x4
abs
Damn but it was hot and humid today. Wore a towel around my neck so I could wipe off the sweat and see the mail. 110 heat index. Tomorrow morning, early to the gym.

[quote]hel320 wrote:
Last night
Power cleans
135wu,215x2repsx8sets (practing “catching” the bar.
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At what point during the pull are you working on the “catch”? I’m haviing real problems getting my timing point dialed in.

AAAAWWWWW Crap!!! I sound like a stock car guy. Hope I made myself clear.