[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
[quote]Cortes wrote:
Oh, and stay away from UGL SHIT![/quote]
So how would one get non-UGL tren?
BBB[/quote]
By pretending you’re a farmer that has a lot of cows in his backyard?
[quote]zraw wrote:
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
[quote]Cortes wrote:
Oh, and stay away from UGL SHIT![/quote]
So how would one get non-UGL tren?
BBB[/quote]
By pretending you’re a farmer that has a lot of cows in his backyard?[/quote]
Well, that’s not what I nor BBB had in mind, but it does illustrate the fact that there are a number of options available that do not involve taking a substance containing who in the hell knows what that comes that came from who in the hell knows where and injecting that substance deep into your muscle belly.
[quote]Cortes wrote:
[quote]zraw wrote:
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
[quote]Cortes wrote:
Oh, and stay away from UGL SHIT![/quote]
So how would one get non-UGL tren?
BBB[/quote]
By pretending you’re a farmer that has a lot of cows in his backyard?[/quote]
Well, that’s not what I nor BBB had in mind, [/quote]
I bet you guys grow your own trenbolone trees. Trenbolone tree sap = very potent
[quote]Cortes wrote:
[quote]Singhbuilder wrote:
[quote]Cortes wrote:
[quote]Singhbuilder wrote:
Hats off to Cortes!
Best piece of advice I have read on this forum for a long time.
I totally agree with the ED and getting harder and harder to recover although for me it seems as though recovery has stalled as quick as my third cycle (first involving Tren).
I probably will not mess with my HPTA now till I have had children and I am sure I dont need my natural test anymore, which will probable be in 15-20 years from now. My last experience was so bad its shitted me to this point, and freezing sperm is just out of the question. I dont need steroids that bad to go as far as freezing sperm. [/quote]
EXACTLY what I was alluding to above. Excellent post.
I started when I was just thirtyish, before ever having any children. Luckily, I was able to conceive shortly after that, but I am SO SO SO SOOOOO glad that I did not start using AAS until just before my wife and I had our son, because being a father kicks the living shit out all the AAS, GH, GHRP, IGF-1, and whatever the hell else you selfishly use to “improve” yourself. I would bet my left nut (haha) that 99% of the men who are privileged to have become fathers here would whole-heartedly agree with me on this.
Being a huge badass is badass, but it is nothing, NOTHING, compared to the true badassedness of being a dad.
Ok, off the soapbox,
69th, FG has you covered as to the rest of your questions. Pay attention to his advice. It’s good stuff.
For clarity’s sake:
AI on cycle.
SERM post cycle.
Include caber when using 19-nors like tren and deca.
T3 is probably overkill if you are not competing, imo, but if you are going to go all in, well, you probably will anyway. I always do. That’s not advice, but it is what tends to happen around here, isn’t it?
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Im sure fatherhood is as spectacular as you say
Besides its not fair on my girl who is so looking forward to having kids if I mess it up because of my own selfish needs.
I hope I have not damaged myself beyond fatherhood at this time and also cannot wait till after being a parent to jump on some nice cycles :)[/quote]
Smart man. How old are you?
There ARE ways to recover enough natural test to restart production of sperm to the point that one can again conceive, even after many years of non-stop AAS use (that is, NOT cycling, just staying on all the time). However, playing dice with your balls is not the best idea if you do not already have low test, are not in this professionally, and if there is even the slightest possibility of your wanting to have children in the future.
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21 Cortes.
Yes very young, it does give me a slight edge towards using AAS again now that you have said it possible to recover, but still you have to think is the benefit to risk ratio worth it? I think not. Its very hard to bite the bullet and now just say to myself no steroids till after kids considering everyone around me will continue to use and get bigger but oh well 
[quote]Cortes wrote:
Low test/high tren works fantastically well, and is often the best option for someone who experiences tren’s negative sides more than he’d prefer. There are a lot more than just a single board member or so who run tren this way, though many of them probably do not post here much if at all anymore.
I personally tolerate well both high test and high tren together, and have run well over a gram of each together for quite a few weeks in a row without any real problems. Couple things will end up happening, though:
First, tren almost certainly will eventually result in some sexual dysfunction. I notice that after long periods on tren, I start having a harder and harder time achieving ejaculation. Regardless how much guys on here talk about how their wife or girlfriend “loves” it, trust me, she’s going to start feeling insecure at first, and eventually hostile toward you if you cannot achieve an orgasm with here. Later, after cycle usually, both a hard time achieving ejaculation along with a bit (or more than a bit) of ED. This is despite a ton of cabergoline and cialis.
Second, just because you have had two good experiences recovering, don’t extrapolate from this that you are just going to bounce right back from every cycle from now on. It WILL get harder and harder to recover. Period. This applies to EVERYBODY “cycling” on this board. And the guys here that just think they’ll be able to run a 40/40/20/20 of nolva from now until they are 60 are seriously deluding themselves. You know those badass results you get from steroids? Well be realistic, and keep in mind that there is nothing in this life that comes for free, AAS most certainly included. You need to think especially hard about this if you are young.
Of course, most of this is the advice I was told but pointedly ignored when first starting out in this game. Experience has proven that advice to be just the same for me as it was for all the more experienced guys that were kindly giving it to me. But who knows, maybe there are some magical dudes out there who’ll always recover like a 20 year old after an 8 weeks test only cycle. Maybe you are one of them.
My suggestion regarding this cycle: Sounds good pretty much as is. I would add HCG at 250mcg EOD from about the 2nd or 3rd week until just before PCT to aid recovery.
Good luck.
Oh, and stay away from UGL SHIT![/quote]
Best thing I have read here in a long time!
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]Cortes wrote:
[quote]zraw wrote:
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
[quote]Cortes wrote:
Oh, and stay away from UGL SHIT![/quote]
So how would one get non-UGL tren?
BBB[/quote]
By pretending you’re a farmer that has a lot of cows in his backyard?[/quote]
Well, that’s not what I nor BBB had in mind, [/quote]
I bet you guys grow your own trenbolone trees. Trenbolone tree sap = very potent [/quote]
So far I’ve been using the tren fairy. I put my empty tren vial under my pillow at night and she replaces it with a full one by morning.
BONEZ, YGPM about this tren tree sap business.