Thinking About Joining Navy Seals

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I think what we’re all trying to get across (at least I am) to you is, if your thinking about YOU and how are YOU going to be able to workout “after” the training, then you shouldn’t be going into the military.

There is a reason it is called being in the Service! It’s not about you! You have the wrong mindset going into it.

Edit: If I’m not mistaken your asking if you can get into your own workout plan and what not when your “done” with training. The answer is… you will be lucky if you can. Not saying it isn’t do able. But it will take a lot of dedication and most times your body and mind will not be up to the added stress. At the end of the day you will want a beer and to do nothing but relax.

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[quote]motherofpearl wrote:
shaun1rsa wrote:
pushharder wrote:
I enjoyed the myopic dream of “being in better shape when I get out.” When the San Diego festivities are over which could be a few hours or a few weeks your body will most likely be broken, bruised and battered. Tendinosis, tendinitis, chafed raw skin, all kinds of joint pain, ligament problems, lost muscle mass, pre-hypothermia and/or actual hypothermia and psychotic maladies will be your companions among others.

Big guys packing lots of muscle (or fat for that matter) have a big disadvantage.

I totally agree pushharder.

I was in the South African Infantry, based on the Angolan border for years.

I lost 35 lb’s in my first 6 months, and there was absolutely NO chance of putting that weight back on. Being in the bush for 6 weeks at a time, walking (sometimes running) about 30km a day, carrying about 50lb’s of kit and living on rat-packs. NO fucking chance of packing on muscle. Wouldn’t want to anyway, just extra weight to haul around everyday.

Navy Seals must be 10 times worse.

The kid has no clue what he is talking about.

What were you in?[/quote]

MoP I was in the South African Infantry. We fought a war for nearly 20 years against communist inspired guerrillas/terrorists (pick one)and Cubans in Angola.

I am still involved in the security business, mainly in parts of Africa and the Middle East.

My suggestion would be to join the navy and see how you do initially, and then take it from there.

There is nothing wrong in aspiring to something great. We should all have big goals in life.

It’s just that all special forces, all over the world, require something very special. You might want to see first if that is the direction you want take.
Good luck.

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I flew home from Florida last night and there was a SEAL on my flight, SEAL team 8.I bet the last thing he was worried about was how he was gonna be able to lift weights.

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[quote]shaun1rsa wrote:
motherofpearl wrote:
shaun1rsa wrote:
pushharder wrote:
I enjoyed the myopic dream of “being in better shape when I get out.” When the San Diego festivities are over which could be a few hours or a few weeks your body will most likely be broken, bruised and battered. Tendinosis, tendinitis, chafed raw skin, all kinds of joint pain, ligament problems, lost muscle mass, pre-hypothermia and/or actual hypothermia and psychotic maladies will be your companions among others.

Big guys packing lots of muscle (or fat for that matter) have a big disadvantage.

I totally agree pushharder.

I was in the South African Infantry, based on the Angolan border for years.

I lost 35 lb’s in my first 6 months, and there was absolutely NO chance of putting that weight back on. Being in the bush for 6 weeks at a time, walking (sometimes running) about 30km a day, carrying about 50lb’s of kit and living on rat-packs. NO fucking chance of packing on muscle. Wouldn’t want to anyway, just extra weight to haul around everyday.

Navy Seals must be 10 times worse.

The kid has no clue what he is talking about.

What were you in?

MoP I was in the South African Infantry. We fought a war for nearly 20 years against communist inspired guerrillas/terrorists (pick one)and Cubans in Angola.

I am still involved in the security business, mainly in parts of Africa and the Middle East.

My suggestion would be to join the navy and see how you do initially, and then take it from there.

There is nothing wrong in aspiring to something great. We should all have big goals in life.

It’s just that all special forces, all over the world, require something very special. You might want to see first if that is the direction you want take.
Good luck.

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That something I was thinking about doing but are you able to do navy seals after just the navy? That is if everything goes well and I feel like I have the willpower.

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[quote]motherofpearl wrote:
shaun1rsa wrote:
motherofpearl wrote:
shaun1rsa wrote:
pushharder wrote:
I enjoyed the myopic dream of “being in better shape when I get out.” When the San Diego festivities are over which could be a few hours or a few weeks your body will most likely be broken, bruised and battered. Tendinosis, tendinitis, chafed raw skin, all kinds of joint pain, ligament problems, lost muscle mass, pre-hypothermia and/or actual hypothermia and psychotic maladies will be your companions among others.

Big guys packing lots of muscle (or fat for that matter) have a big disadvantage.

I totally agree pushharder.

I was in the South African Infantry, based on the Angolan border for years.

I lost 35 lb’s in my first 6 months, and there was absolutely NO chance of putting that weight back on. Being in the bush for 6 weeks at a time, walking (sometimes running) about 30km a day, carrying about 50lb’s of kit and living on rat-packs. NO fucking chance of packing on muscle. Wouldn’t want to anyway, just extra weight to haul around everyday.

Navy Seals must be 10 times worse.

The kid has no clue what he is talking about.

What were you in?

MoP I was in the South African Infantry. We fought a war for nearly 20 years against communist inspired guerrillas/terrorists (pick one)and Cubans in Angola.

I am still involved in the security business, mainly in parts of Africa and the Middle East.

My suggestion would be to join the navy and see how you do initially, and then take it from there.

There is nothing wrong in aspiring to something great. We should all have big goals in life.

It’s just that all special forces, all over the world, require something very special. You might want to see first if that is the direction you want take.
Good luck.

That something I was thinking about doing but are you able to do navy seals after just the navy? That is if everything goes well and I feel like I have the willpower.
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Where do you think SEALs come from? Like all SpecOps, they are chosen from the ranks of the branch of service (Navy and USMC for SEALs, Army for Rangers, SF, Delta, Air Force for Special Tactics Group, etc). That means you enlist (assuming he’s not going in as a commissioned officer) in whatever service, attend Basic Training (aka “Boot Camp”) then on to MOS school, then on to your first duty assignment. And you better be top of the class at each stop. If you do well and fit the specific profile of what they’re looking for, you can go to one of the training programs (for SEALs, that is BUDs). You don’t just pop into a recruiter and sign up to be a SEAL.

DB

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[quote]dollarbill44 wrote:
Where do you think SEALs come from? Like all SpecOps, they are chosen from the ranks of the branch of service (Navy and USMC for SEALs, Army for Rangers, SF, Delta, Air Force for Special Tactics Group, etc). That means you enlist (assuming he’s not going in as a commissioned officer) in whatever service, attend Basic Training (aka “Boot Camp”) then on to MOS school, then on to your first duty assignment. And you better be top of the class at each stop. If you do well and fit the specific profile of what they’re looking for, you can go to one of the training programs (for SEALs, that is BUDs). You don’t just pop into a recruiter and sign up to be a SEAL.

DB[/quote]

sorry to nitpick, but there is no classifiction such as ‘special tactics group’. SF and delta are part of the army. and the air force spec ops unit is know as pararescue or pj’s.

otherwise, you are correct.

while on topic, i just got back from the navy commissioning ceremony at UoFlorida. out of 21 new ensigns, TWO guys recieved BUD’s slots. friggin badass.

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I was wondering who the op’s favorite Joe is. Mine are

Snake Eyes
Storm Shadow
Dusty

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[quote]dollarbill44 wrote:
motherofpearl wrote:
shaun1rsa wrote:
motherofpearl wrote:
shaun1rsa wrote:
pushharder wrote:
I enjoyed the myopic dream of “being in better shape when I get out.” When the San Diego festivities are over which could be a few hours or a few weeks your body will most likely be broken, bruised and battered. Tendinosis, tendinitis, chafed raw skin, all kinds of joint pain, ligament problems, lost muscle mass, pre-hypothermia and/or actual hypothermia and psychotic maladies will be your companions among others.

Big guys packing lots of muscle (or fat for that matter) have a big disadvantage.

I totally agree pushharder.

I was in the South African Infantry, based on the Angolan border for years.

I lost 35 lb’s in my first 6 months, and there was absolutely NO chance of putting that weight back on. Being in the bush for 6 weeks at a time, walking (sometimes running) about 30km a day, carrying about 50lb’s of kit and living on rat-packs. NO fucking chance of packing on muscle. Wouldn’t want to anyway, just extra weight to haul around everyday.

Navy Seals must be 10 times worse.

The kid has no clue what he is talking about.

What were you in?

MoP I was in the South African Infantry. We fought a war for nearly 20 years against communist inspired guerrillas/terrorists (pick one)and Cubans in Angola.

I am still involved in the security business, mainly in parts of Africa and the Middle East.

My suggestion would be to join the navy and see how you do initially, and then take it from there.

There is nothing wrong in aspiring to something great. We should all have big goals in life.

It’s just that all special forces, all over the world, require something very special. You might want to see first if that is the direction you want take.
Good luck.

That something I was thinking about doing but are you able to do navy seals after just the navy? That is if everything goes well and I feel like I have the willpower.

Where do you think SEALs come from? Like all SpecOps, they are chosen from the ranks of the branch of service (Navy and USMC for SEALs, Army for Rangers, SF, Delta, Air Force for Special Tactics Group, etc). That means you enlist (assuming he’s not going in as a commissioned officer) in whatever service, attend Basic Training (aka “Boot Camp”) then on to MOS school, then on to your first duty assignment. And you better be top of the class at each stop. If you do well and fit the specific profile of what they’re looking for, you can go to one of the training programs (for SEALs, that is BUDs). You don’t just pop into a recruiter and sign up to be a SEAL.

DB[/quote]

I thought that you go do bootcamp and the important things then you are able to go to Special ops if you could make it. Cause I read in military.com that 18 years are eligable and that if you do special ops and already normal joe it is very hard to even try out for BUDs cause uless your officer lets you.

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[quote]HolyMacaroni wrote:
dollarbill44 wrote:
Where do you think SEALs come from? Like all SpecOps, they are chosen from the ranks of the branch of service (Navy and USMC for SEALs, Army for Rangers, SF, Delta, Air Force for Special Tactics Group, etc). That means you enlist (assuming he’s not going in as a commissioned officer) in whatever service, attend Basic Training (aka “Boot Camp”) then on to MOS school, then on to your first duty assignment. And you better be top of the class at each stop. If you do well and fit the specific profile of what they’re looking for, you can go to one of the training programs (for SEALs, that is BUDs). You don’t just pop into a recruiter and sign up to be a SEAL.

DB

sorry to nitpick, but there is no classifiction such as ‘special tactics group’. SF and delta are part of the army. and the air force spec ops unit is know as pararescue or pj’s.

otherwise, you are correct.

while on topic, i just got back from the navy commissioning ceremony at UoFlorida. out of 21 new ensigns, TWO guys recieved BUD’s slots. friggin badass.

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So 21 people signed up and only 2 were accepted to TRY to attempt BUDs?

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In the Nav you can get a guarantee to try out for Buds provided you pass the physical fitness test in boot camp. You still need to apply for a school or rate at enlistment. You then go to your A school after boot camp and provided you pass that you then go to Buds. However, if you fail out of Buds you then go the Fleet and do whatever job your rating is in. For instance if you went to Intelligence Specialist A school you would be an IS (Intell Specialist) at whatever duty station they send you to. Some guys don’t get a guaranteed school (by their own choice) and will just sign over to the needs of the Navy if they fail out of Buds. They will then go to the Fleet as a non rated Seamen which basically means swabbing the decks and any other hard work on a boat.

D

Edit: And not to nitpick either but to Dollarbill’s post Marines can’t sign up for Buds unless they get out of the Marines and join the Navy. Their Special forces is Marine Recon. You have to be in the Navy to try out for Buds.

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[quote]motherofpearl wrote:

So 21 people signed up and only 2 were accepted to TRY to attempt BUDs?

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no, 21 people where commissioned as naval officers from the rotc program at UF. most of the time, no BUD’s slots are earned. however this time, TWO slots were given too students. it’s a pretty big deal.

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[quote]motherofpearl wrote:
Cause I read in military.com that 18 years are eligable and that if you do special ops and already normal joe it is very hard to even try out for BUDs cause uless your officer lets you.
[/quote]

LMAO!

if i was ‘your officer’ pearl, i’d let you try out.

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[quote]motherofpearl wrote:
HolyMacaroni wrote:
dollarbill44 wrote:
Where do you think SEALs come from? Like all SpecOps, they are chosen from the ranks of the branch of service (Navy and USMC for SEALs, Army for Rangers, SF, Delta, Air Force for Special Tactics Group, etc). That means you enlist (assuming he’s not going in as a commissioned officer) in whatever service, attend Basic Training (aka “Boot Camp”) then on to MOS school, then on to your first duty assignment. And you better be top of the class at each stop. If you do well and fit the specific profile of what they’re looking for, you can go to one of the training programs (for SEALs, that is BUDs). You don’t just pop into a recruiter and sign up to be a SEAL.

DB

sorry to nitpick, but there is no classifiction such as ‘special tactics group’. SF and delta are part of the army. and the air force spec ops unit is know as pararescue or pj’s.

otherwise, you are correct.

while on topic, i just got back from the navy commissioning ceremony at UoFlorida. out of 21 new ensigns, TWO guys recieved BUD’s slots. friggin badass.

So 21 people signed up and only 2 were accepted to TRY to attempt BUDs?

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Yes. Ensigns are officers. Officer slots are extremely competitive to get for a slot a BUD/s. Most slots go to guys coming out of the academy. Few slots are given to guys coming from ROTC or OCS.

Based off you lack of research on this topic, I’m guessing you don’t have a college degree so you would end up enlisting. If you can pass the screening test and make it through Pre-BUD/s at boot camp it is fairly easy to get a chance a BUD/s.

The Navy is making a big push to recruit people into the special forces community due to the nature of the wars we are currently fighting. If you can pass the test, you will get your shot. Keep in mind you are signing up to do one of the hardest things on the planet.

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[quote]DickBag wrote:
dollarbill44 wrote:
motherofpearl wrote:
shaun1rsa wrote:
motherofpearl wrote:
shaun1rsa wrote:
pushharder wrote:
I enjoyed the myopic dream of “being in better shape when I get out.” When the San Diego festivities are over which could be a few hours or a few weeks your body will most likely be broken, bruised and battered. Tendinosis, tendinitis, chafed raw skin, all kinds of joint pain, ligament problems, lost muscle mass, pre-hypothermia and/or actual hypothermia and psychotic maladies will be your companions among others.

Big guys packing lots of muscle (or fat for that matter) have a big disadvantage.

I totally agree pushharder.

I was in the South African Infantry, based on the Angolan border for years.

I lost 35 lb’s in my first 6 months, and there was absolutely NO chance of putting that weight back on. Being in the bush for 6 weeks at a time, walking (sometimes running) about 30km a day, carrying about 50lb’s of kit and living on rat-packs. NO fucking chance of packing on muscle. Wouldn’t want to anyway, just extra weight to haul around everyday.

Navy Seals must be 10 times worse.

The kid has no clue what he is talking about.

What were you in?

MoP I was in the South African Infantry. We fought a war for nearly 20 years against communist inspired guerrillas/terrorists (pick one)and Cubans in Angola.

I am still involved in the security business, mainly in parts of Africa and the Middle East.

My suggestion would be to join the navy and see how you do initially, and then take it from there.

There is nothing wrong in aspiring to something great. We should all have big goals in life.

It’s just that all special forces, all over the world, require something very special. You might want to see first if that is the direction you want take.
Good luck.

That something I was thinking about doing but are you able to do navy seals after just the navy? That is if everything goes well and I feel like I have the willpower.

Where do you think SEALs come from? Like all SpecOps, they are chosen from the ranks of the branch of service (Navy and USMC for SEALs, Army for Rangers, SF, Delta, Air Force for Special Tactics Group, etc). That means you enlist (assuming he’s not going in as a commissioned officer) in whatever service, attend Basic Training (aka “Boot Camp”) then on to MOS school, then on to your first duty assignment. And you better be top of the class at each stop. If you do well and fit the specific profile of what they’re looking for, you can go to one of the training programs (for SEALs, that is BUDs). You don’t just pop into a recruiter and sign up to be a SEAL.

DB

i thought you could sign a seal contract and then you basically are just joining buds training, without having to go to school for a rating

at least thats what i understand it to be. unless it changed

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You are correct. If you pass the screening test, you will get a SEAL challenge contract when you enlist. As long as you maintain the physical standards throughout basic and pre-BUD/s, you will get your shot.

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Have you ever gotten four hours sleep over a grueling 5-day period? Have you ever laid under water on scratchy rocks and breathed through a reed for 8 hours? Just asking…

If you do decide to go through with it don’t be all down on yourself if you don’t make it. 90% don’t. The one’s who do are a whole 'nother breed. Sometimes good, sometimes… not so much.

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[quote]spyoptic wrote:

yea he should join up for real reasons like college money and those cool NAVY commercials with Godsmack playing in the background.[/quote]

HEY! That’s why I joined! ;>

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[quote]Dedicated wrote:

In the Nav you can get a guarantee to try out for Buds provided you pass the physical fitness test in boot camp. You still need to apply for a school or rate at enlistment. You then go to your A school after boot camp and provided you pass that you then go to Buds. However, if you fail out of Buds you then go the Fleet and do whatever job your rating is in. For instance if you went to Intelligence Specialist A school you would be an IS (Intell Specialist) at whatever duty station they send you to. Some guys don’t get a guaranteed school (by their own choice) and will just sign over to the needs of the Navy if they fail out of Buds. They will then go to the Fleet as a non rated Seamen which basically means swabbing the decks and any other hard work on a boat.

D

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This is true!! AT LEAST score high enough on the ASVAB that you get a guranteed school to pick from…
What I wanted(core school) was all filled up, so deck seaman it was!! You don’t want to do that…

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[quote]HolyMacaroni wrote:
dollarbill44 wrote:
Where do you think SEALs come from? Like all SpecOps, they are chosen from the ranks of the branch of service (Navy and USMC for SEALs, Army for Rangers, SF, Delta, Air Force for Special Tactics Group, etc). That means you enlist (assuming he’s not going in as a commissioned officer) in whatever service, attend Basic Training (aka “Boot Camp”) then on to MOS school, then on to your first duty assignment. And you better be top of the class at each stop. If you do well and fit the specific profile of what they’re looking for, you can go to one of the training programs (for SEALs, that is BUDs). You don’t just pop into a recruiter and sign up to be a SEAL.

DB

sorry to nitpick, but there is no classifiction such as ‘special tactics group’. SF and delta are part of the army. and the air force spec ops unit is know as pararescue or pj’s.

otherwise, you are correct.

while on topic, i just got back from the navy commissioning ceremony at UoFlorida. out of 21 new ensigns, TWO guys recieved BUD’s slots. friggin badass.

[/quote]

2 BUDs slots is damn good. I don’t have any knowledge of AF, I just got the name off their website. I’m former Army, so I know how they pick for SpecOps and I know a little about the Navy from my bro-in-law who was career aviator and knows a lot of SEALs.

Back on topic, can MotherofPearl expect to be able to blast his body after PT and bulk up to amazing size while serving in the SEALs???

(my guess is that it will never be an issue for him)

DB

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One more thing that needs to be mentioned:
You serve as the DoD sees fit, not what any recruiter tells you. EVERY contract signed has this little clause in it that basically says any guarantees made are subject to change based on the needs of the military.

I’ve known more than a few guys who were all set to PCS to a promised slot only to get their orders changed last minute to a shit slot because “things changed”.

DB

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[quote]formerfatboy wrote:
DickBag wrote:
dollarbill44 wrote:
motherofpearl wrote:
shaun1rsa wrote:
motherofpearl wrote:
shaun1rsa wrote:
pushharder wrote:
I enjoyed the myopic dream of “being in better shape when I get out.” When the San Diego festivities are over which could be a few hours or a few weeks your body will most likely be broken, bruised and battered. Tendinosis, tendinitis, chafed raw skin, all kinds of joint pain, ligament problems, lost muscle mass, pre-hypothermia and/or actual hypothermia and psychotic maladies will be your companions among others.

Big guys packing lots of muscle (or fat for that matter) have a big disadvantage.

I totally agree pushharder.

I was in the South African Infantry, based on the Angolan border for years.

I lost 35 lb’s in my first 6 months, and there was absolutely NO chance of putting that weight back on. Being in the bush for 6 weeks at a time, walking (sometimes running) about 30km a day, carrying about 50lb’s of kit and living on rat-packs. NO fucking chance of packing on muscle. Wouldn’t want to anyway, just extra weight to haul around everyday.

Navy Seals must be 10 times worse.

The kid has no clue what he is talking about.

What were you in?

MoP I was in the South African Infantry. We fought a war for nearly 20 years against communist inspired guerrillas/terrorists (pick one)and Cubans in Angola.

I am still involved in the security business, mainly in parts of Africa and the Middle East.

My suggestion would be to join the navy and see how you do initially, and then take it from there.

There is nothing wrong in aspiring to something great. We should all have big goals in life.

It’s just that all special forces, all over the world, require something very special. You might want to see first if that is the direction you want take.
Good luck.

That something I was thinking about doing but are you able to do navy seals after just the navy? That is if everything goes well and I feel like I have the willpower.

Where do you think SEALs come from? Like all SpecOps, they are chosen from the ranks of the branch of service (Navy and USMC for SEALs, Army for Rangers, SF, Delta, Air Force for Special Tactics Group, etc). That means you enlist (assuming he’s not going in as a commissioned officer) in whatever service, attend Basic Training (aka “Boot Camp”) then on to MOS school, then on to your first duty assignment. And you better be top of the class at each stop. If you do well and fit the specific profile of what they’re looking for, you can go to one of the training programs (for SEALs, that is BUDs). You don’t just pop into a recruiter and sign up to be a SEAL.

DB

i thought you could sign a seal contract and then you basically are just joining buds training, without having to go to school for a rating

at least thats what i understand it to be. unless it changed

You are correct. If you pass the screening test, you will get a SEAL challenge contract when you enlist. As long as you maintain the physical standards throughout basic and pre-BUD/s, you will get your shot. [/quote]

Do you have to ask for a challenge contract?