Thinking About Joining Navy Seals

[quote]Dedicated wrote:

i thought you could sign a seal contract and then you basically are just joining buds training, without having to go to school for a rating

at least thats what i understand it to be. unless it changed

In the Nav you can get a guarantee to try out for Buds provided you pass the physical fitness test in boot camp. You still need to apply for a school or rate at enlistment. You then go to your A school after boot camp and provided you pass that you then go to Buds. However, if you fail out of Buds you then go the Fleet and do whatever job your rating is in. For instance if you went to Intelligence Specialist A school you would be an IS (Intell Specialist) at whatever duty station they send you to. Some guys don’t get a guaranteed school (by their own choice) and will just sign over to the needs of the Navy if they fail out of Buds. They will then go to the Fleet as a non rated Seamen which basically means swabbing the decks and any other hard work on a boat.

D

Edit: And not to nitpick either but to Dollarbill’s post Marines can’t sign up for Buds unless they get out of the Marines and join the Navy. Their Special forces is Marine Recon. You have to be in the Navy to try out for Buds. [/quote]

Thanks dedicated and everyone else.

[quote]motherofpearl wrote:
formerfatboy wrote:
DickBag wrote:
dollarbill44 wrote:
motherofpearl wrote:
shaun1rsa wrote:
motherofpearl wrote:
shaun1rsa wrote:
pushharder wrote:
I enjoyed the myopic dream of “being in better shape when I get out.” When the San Diego festivities are over which could be a few hours or a few weeks your body will most likely be broken, bruised and battered. Tendinosis, tendinitis, chafed raw skin, all kinds of joint pain, ligament problems, lost muscle mass, pre-hypothermia and/or actual hypothermia and psychotic maladies will be your companions among others.

Big guys packing lots of muscle (or fat for that matter) have a big disadvantage.

I totally agree pushharder.

I was in the South African Infantry, based on the Angolan border for years.

I lost 35 lb’s in my first 6 months, and there was absolutely NO chance of putting that weight back on. Being in the bush for 6 weeks at a time, walking (sometimes running) about 30km a day, carrying about 50lb’s of kit and living on rat-packs. NO fucking chance of packing on muscle. Wouldn’t want to anyway, just extra weight to haul around everyday.

Navy Seals must be 10 times worse.

The kid has no clue what he is talking about.

What were you in?

MoP I was in the South African Infantry. We fought a war for nearly 20 years against communist inspired guerrillas/terrorists (pick one)and Cubans in Angola.

I am still involved in the security business, mainly in parts of Africa and the Middle East.

My suggestion would be to join the navy and see how you do initially, and then take it from there.

There is nothing wrong in aspiring to something great. We should all have big goals in life.

It’s just that all special forces, all over the world, require something very special. You might want to see first if that is the direction you want take.
Good luck.

That something I was thinking about doing but are you able to do navy seals after just the navy? That is if everything goes well and I feel like I have the willpower.

Where do you think SEALs come from? Like all SpecOps, they are chosen from the ranks of the branch of service (Navy and USMC for SEALs, Army for Rangers, SF, Delta, Air Force for Special Tactics Group, etc). That means you enlist (assuming he’s not going in as a commissioned officer) in whatever service, attend Basic Training (aka “Boot Camp”) then on to MOS school, then on to your first duty assignment. And you better be top of the class at each stop. If you do well and fit the specific profile of what they’re looking for, you can go to one of the training programs (for SEALs, that is BUDs). You don’t just pop into a recruiter and sign up to be a SEAL.

DB

i thought you could sign a seal contract and then you basically are just joining buds training, without having to go to school for a rating

at least thats what i understand it to be. unless it changed

You are correct. If you pass the screening test, you will get a SEAL challenge contract when you enlist. As long as you maintain the physical standards throughout basic and pre-BUD/s, you will get your shot.

Do you have to ask for a challenge contract?[/quote]

YES. Go to your recruiter and say you want a SEAL challenge contract. You will take the ASVAB and pick your rating. Then you go to MEPs(medical processing) and make sure you are medically approved to join the military. You will enlist and enter into whats called DEP (delayed enlistment program?). You will have up to 12 months to past the SEAL screening test while waiting in DEP. Once you pass the screening test, your old contract with be shredded(make sure this happens) and you will get your SEAL contract. You pick you ship date to boot and start training. Most recuiters out there are good guys, but some may try to fuck you so be careful. As I stated earlier, the Navy is making a big push to recruit more SEALs so provided you are physically fit, you will get your shot.

FFB:

I know you know this…but I think that it’s important to remind all the “Video Game Warriors” that while the Navy is making a big push to recruit more SEALS…they are not reducing standards for anybody, regardless as to how short they are in their numbers (the latest estimates are that they could use twice as many as they currently have).

Also…a lot of guys focus on the physical (which is DAMN important)…but the mental also washes a lot of guys out.

Being dropped from a Helicopter into the ocean in pitch black…and having to deliver ordinance to the bottom of a ship while almost blinded by the murk is NOT for the faint at heart…

…and it ain’t a video game…

Mufasa

Speaking of videos games…

When I was in the Marine Corps there was this kid that actually admitted to enlisting because of SOCOM the video game! I was baffled.

[quote]mom-in-MD wrote:
Dedicated wrote:

In the Nav you can get a guarantee to try out for Buds provided you pass the physical fitness test in boot camp. You still need to apply for a school or rate at enlistment. You then go to your A school after boot camp and provided you pass that you then go to Buds. However, if you fail out of Buds you then go the Fleet and do whatever job your rating is in. For instance if you went to Intelligence Specialist A school you would be an IS (Intell Specialist) at whatever duty station they send you to. Some guys don’t get a guaranteed school (by their own choice) and will just sign over to the needs of the Navy if they fail out of Buds. They will then go to the Fleet as a non rated Seamen which basically means swabbing the decks and any other hard work on a boat.

D

This is true!! AT LEAST score high enough on the ASVAB that you get a guranteed school to pick from…
What I wanted(core school) was all filled up, so deck seaman it was!! You don’t want to do that…
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I (yea, a woman) scored way higher than my brother on the ASVAB and got offered nothing. I wound up, essentially, a secretary. I had to LEARN how to type, on the job! My brother? They offered HIM the world. It was years after I got out that my brother asked me why I wound up working in an office when I scored so high on the exam. Until then, I didn’t even know…

Here’s hoping they’ve since cleaned up their act and are now using their people with the highest potential appropriately.

Read this
http://www.T-Nation.com/free_online_article//tough_sobs
(took me a while to track it down, sorry if it’s been posted before, I haven’t bothered keeping up with this thread)

[quote]Roual wrote:
Read this
http://www.T-Nation.com/free_online_article//tough_sobs
(took me a while to track it down, sorry if it’s been posted before, I haven’t bothered keeping up with this thread)[/quote]

Never been posted but thanks a lot. This is what I was looking for.

Dude… the thing to remember: The guys who will be training you have forgotten more information on training than you could ever hope to learn in a lifetime!! There is a reason why they are the sh*t. Learn what you can and strive to be them!! Leave your ego at home

[quote]markiss842 wrote:
Dude… the thing to remember: The guys who will be training you have forgotten more information on training than you could ever hope to learn in a lifetime!! There is a reason why they are the sh*t. Learn what you can and strive to be them!! Leave your ego at home[/quote]

I do not know what you mean. Who knows a lot about training? The navy seal instructors? What does that have to do with anything?

who knows.

but this is coming from a guy shooting his paintgun with his mask pulled up, so take it with a grain of salt.

lol

[quote]HolyMacaroni wrote:
who knows.

but this is coming from a guy shooting his paintgun with his mask pulled up, so take it with a grain of salt.

lol[/quote]

I too, LOLd. Pentagon budget cuts have meant that the SEALs now conduct their live-fire exercises with piantball guns.

DB