[quote]David1991 wrote:
Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
David1991 wrote:
Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
daffyduck wrote:
hey thib, for an individual trying to get ripped on a targeted carbs diet would u still recommend a high carb meal every 5th day or is this just for low carb diets? thanks again for everything you’ve done.
No need for a carb-up day since you are never depleting your glycogen stores.
could you explain your reasoning behind this? i have looked at a 5-10 studies and read in a book that performance seriously suffers during high intensity training if no carbs are taken in.
and to the OP of the question if you arent taking in the carb meals thats not really a TCD anymore.
Those studies are often short term, not long enough for the body to adapt to using fat/ketones for fuel.
In fact most long term studies using a low carbs/moderate to high fat diet find quite the opposite.
your right in that most of them were short term, for long term keto (upto 6 weeks) i could only find 1 study which showed a maintenance/increase in low intensity exercise but still a decrease in higher intensity exercise with total keto. it concluded that carbs must be ingested at some point (CKD/TKD) to maintain high intensities. Im in no way looking for an argument, i just havent seen any study supporting high intensities being maintained long term with no real carbs at any point.
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Not true… I do have several papers showing no decrease in high intensity performance from LONG TERM (not 4-6 weeks, I’m talking lifestyle changes here) low-carbs eating. They are in my office so I’ll have to dig them out next week.
But more importantly, I really do wish that individual would stop being so stuck up on quoting studies. IMHO this is one of the main reason why individual with little real life knowledge and experience actually never get results. They are so afraid of actually trying something if they don’t have a zillion studies backing the theory that they end up never attempting anything that has actually a chance of being effective.
F**K I have never seen a study showing that being kicked in the balls hurts… does it means that it doesn’t??? Heck no!
Think by yourself for a few seconds. Several ethnic groups have lived on a low-carbs diet for hundred of years. Eskimos and Inuits for example. They had to perform high intensity work, consumed 0g of carbs per day and still survived and thrived!
Here is a quote from one of my upcoming articles. While it is specifically about training, it also applies to dieting…
''Back in the old days men of iron would try something out, if it worked they kept it, if it didn’t they threw it away. They were not interested in conducting 2219 peer-reviewed studies to confirm that what they did actually worked (the fact that they actually gained strength and size was proof enough for them) they went ahead and did it. While they often had a broad idea of why it worked, it wasn’t always accurate (sometimes they were downright wrong), but truthfully did it matter? After all, to them, the bottom line was the important thing. Not being able to argue the validity of their methods with 2000 peoples online!
However proper understanding on why something works is still useful. Yes, even those pesky studies are a good tool (although they are not the be-all end-all of training knowledge) to help us properly apply a training method into a program. ‘’
While I do value studies… I trust my experience with over 1000 clients and that of other top coaches above studies conducting in controlled lab settings that have nothing to do with real life for periods of 2-6 weeks.