Do you think it would be a good idea to read all of your previous articles or just the recent ones? I only ask because i know some of your training thoughts/methodologies have changed so i don’t want to read something thinking its a good idea when in reality you no longer agree with it.
Thanks
[quote]shoelessjones wrote:
Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
David1991 wrote:
ah so the point of the TCD is still to be fat adapted.
Not necessarily. If the goal is fat loss, yes. If the goal is muscle gain, then it doesn’t really matter.
David1991 wrote:
for phase 3 especially you dont find that to be excessively high protein? i have read many times that if protein is too high during a keto/low carb diet you will use protein for fuel. will the fact that you are fat adapted by week 3 cause that to not happen?
Once your body is used to using fat for energy, it will look for body fat for energy when dietary fat is decreased. The problem is when fat is too low during the induction phase.
However, if fat is too low (less than 30%), then yes, your body may switch to using more protein for energy.
and if that happens (the switch to using more protein for energy), one might be able to detect this by loss of strength during their workouts…especially if one is keeping the reps in the 3-6 range?[/quote]
Actually it would show up in the form of frequent mood swings, lack of energy and loss of muscle mass.
[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
shoelessjones wrote:
Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
David1991 wrote:
ah so the point of the TCD is still to be fat adapted.
Not necessarily. If the goal is fat loss, yes. If the goal is muscle gain, then it doesn’t really matter.
David1991 wrote:
for phase 3 especially you dont find that to be excessively high protein? i have read many times that if protein is too high during a keto/low carb diet you will use protein for fuel. will the fact that you are fat adapted by week 3 cause that to not happen?
Once your body is used to using fat for energy, it will look for body fat for energy when dietary fat is decreased. The problem is when fat is too low during the induction phase.
However, if fat is too low (less than 30%), then yes, your body may switch to using more protein for energy.
and if that happens (the switch to using more protein for energy), one might be able to detect this by loss of strength during their workouts…especially if one is keeping the reps in the 3-6 range?
Actually it would show up in the form of frequent mood swings, lack of energy and loss of muscle mass.[/quote]
that’s great info… thank you!!!
[quote]David1991 wrote:
just wondering, (and i myself am a fan of low carb diets for most), why is it that you dont really see any bodybuilders, especially pro’s, using lower carbs? almost all bodybuilders will suggest between 30-55% carbs.
I’m sure AAS has to do with it in the higher levels but i cant really think of any bodybuilders who dont consume at least moderate carbs (obviously i dont know off all their diets though but that seems to be the trend)
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It’s not 100% true. All of the guys being trained by Dave Palumbo use a low-carbs diet (he trains 3-4 pros).
But for the most part it’s not because of the AAS, but rather because of T3 and clenbuterol (not to mention DNP) that these guys take. T3 (thyroid hormone) can boost metabolism by 10-15%, clenbuterol by another 5% and DNP (if they use it… it’s not as popular as it once was since it is super dangerous) can boost it anywhere from 50 to 100%.
So these guys, who already are blast furnace because of their muscle mass, increase their metabolic rate by 20-50% from drugs alone.
Then factor in hGH which is HIGHLY lypolitic (increases use of fat for fuel) and you have an individual who can get super lean via any kind of diet.
Furthermore, a lot of bodybuilders use insulin. It is already dangerous to use, but if you use it during a low-carbs diet it’s suicidal.
CT,
Do you know of any reliable sources for finding the approximate breakdown of nutrients, calories, soluble and insoluble fiber, etc. in various types of foods. It seems like depending upon where you look, there can be large discrepancies in this type of information.
So in your opinion it is due to some substance they add into their body? i do see the same trend in many natural bodybuilders as well though.
am i understanding you correctly in that you do believe the low carb approach or carb cycling can still give near maximal muscle tissue gains? or is the reason you prefer it because it can help individuals stay lean while putting on LBM at a decent rate but maybe not 100% of what they could with higher carbs? (wouldnt have to cut as often i assume which would lead to overall higher LBM though)
Coach,
What factors have had the greatest impact on how you have learned and approached the business side of your profession? Have things like trial-and-error/learning from past mistakes, personal connections and learning from others you’ve worked with, learning and reading about business, etc. all played a part in shaping your knowledge base in that regard?
Were there any particularly noteworthy influences that especially standout or helped put you ahead of the game?
[quote]AtomicPunks wrote:
CT,
Do you know of any reliable sources for finding the approximate breakdown of nutrients, calories, soluble and insoluble fiber, etc. in various types of foods. It seems like depending upon where you look, there can be large discrepancies in this type of information.[/quote]
Here’s one I find helpful… don’t know how to measure the reliability of it, but it has a lot of information.
Coach,
On the tcd, I know that carbs are to be only taken post workout so does that mean on days you dont workout its just less than 50g carbs or would it be better to get as close to zero as possible.
Thanks
CT,
Was recently going through some old books when I came across a book entitled ‘Serious Growth’.
One concept I had forgotten about but also find interesting has to do with the concept of protein loading to add muscle mass. (this is not a protocol they recommend all the time but it was part of an excerpt to use to breakthrough a plateau or add additional muscle mass)
In summary they recommend several days of protein loading followed by a couple days of zero protein intake and high carb intake (mostley from fruit). This is then capped off by a 1 or 2 day high protein binge. They also have special training paramaters to follow including the coinciding the most intense/volume of training on the protein loading days.
I know you are a believer in cycling protein intake in certain instances…i.e. after prolonged periods of high intake. Have you ever experimented with something like this?
Best,
Phil
CT,
One other point about the book that I though warranted a mention was the system is based around the concept cycling periods of ‘near’ to ‘just beyond the threshold of’ overtraining with periods of less volume to enable recovery.
A typical cycle might start at a given number of sets in week one, then add more volume in week 2, and even more volume in week 3 (this week would be considered slightly beyond your full capacity for recovery). Then weeks 4,5,6 would consist of slightly different loading parameters and with a volume prescription somewhere around 50% of week 3.
I know that at times some coaches (i.e. Poliquin) have used a similar concept successfully with athletes in certain instances and also to a degree(although not the overtraining bit but cutting the volume prescription) one of his principles for ‘Wood’ Type athletes.
I was just curious your thoughts on trying to incorporate this type of concept in a typical mass building phase.
Hello CT:
Any similarity with another question is not intended, this is not a repost, this is a different question.
Do you find an advantage on putting a food with insulemic complex carbs after your postworkout meal for maximizing mass gains? Or should I just stick with something lighter?
[quote]MEYMZ wrote:
Hello CT:
Any similarity with another question is not intended, this is not a repost, this is a different question.
Do you find an advantage on putting a food with insulemic complex carbs after your postworkout meal for maximizing mass gains? Or should I just stick with something lighter?[/quote]
I’m not CT and don’t pretend to speak for the man or have his level of knowledge, but I can say I am fairly certain that he is more keen on using micronutrient dense, higher GI fruits(or even berries despite their lower GI on account of their nutrient density) if carbs are being used post-workout and “extra” amounts beyond a shake are warranted. And as he’s also touched upon in the past, the healthier your immune system is(and your body in general), the greater your anabolic potential will be. so this would give certain fruits and edge over assorted starchy complex carbs.
hey thib, for an individual trying to get ripped on a targeted carbs diet would u still recommend a high carb meal every 5th day or is this just for low carb diets? thanks again for everything you’ve done.
[quote]SouthsideMayhem wrote:
MEYMZ wrote:
Hello CT:
Any similarity with another question is not intended, this is not a repost, this is a different question.
Do you find an advantage on putting a food with insulemic complex carbs after your postworkout meal for maximizing mass gains? Or should I just stick with something lighter?
I’m not CT and don’t pretend to speak for the man or have his level of knowledge, but I can say I am fairly certain that he is more keen on using micronutrient dense, higher GI fruits(or even berries despite their lower GI on account of their nutrient density) if carbs are being used post-workout and “extra” amounts beyond a shake are warranted. And as he’s also touched upon in the past, the healthier your immune system is(and your body in general), the greater your anabolic potential will be. so this would give certain fruits and edge over assorted starchy complex carbs.
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Thank you very much.
Coach,
If there are some alternatives to bands, which would you recommend that have the same or nearly the same advantages like bands (e.g. improving acceleration)?
Greetings
[quote]daffyduck wrote:
hey thib, for an individual trying to get ripped on a targeted carbs diet would u still recommend a high carb meal every 5th day or is this just for low carb diets? thanks again for everything you’ve done.[/quote]
No need for a carb-up day since you are never depleting your glycogen stores.
Thib,
Since only omega 3’s and omega 6’s are absolutely essential(and almost all of us get more than enough 6’s already), how do you like to determine where to set EPA and DHA intake relative to total fat intake and when to “make up the difference” with nuts, coconut oil, olive oil, etc.?
[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
daffyduck wrote:
hey thib, for an individual trying to get ripped on a targeted carbs diet would u still recommend a high carb meal every 5th day or is this just for low carb diets? thanks again for everything you’ve done.
No need for a carb-up day since you are never depleting your glycogen stores.[/quote]
could you explain your reasoning behind this? i have looked at a 5-10 studies and read in a book that performance seriously suffers during high intensity training if no carbs are taken in.
and to the OP of the question if you arent taking in the carb meals thats not really a TCD anymore.
[quote]David1991 wrote:
Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
daffyduck wrote:
hey thib, for an individual trying to get ripped on a targeted carbs diet would u still recommend a high carb meal every 5th day or is this just for low carb diets? thanks again for everything you’ve done.
No need for a carb-up day since you are never depleting your glycogen stores.
could you explain your reasoning behind this? i have looked at a 5-10 studies and read in a book that performance seriously suffers during high intensity training if no carbs are taken in.
and to the OP of the question if you arent taking in the carb meals thats not really a TCD anymore. [/quote]
By definition he is getting his carbs at some point. Must be PWO. That’s why he doesn’t need a carb meal every 5 days.